Am I a pervert?

[75corner]

I Just posted my first story to Literotica. The first couple of responses were great and helpful, then some trashing occured. I opened my story up to feedback because I really am interested in knowing what type of stories people would most like to hear and also because I wish to hone my writing style. I'm confused and trying to figure out how being called a pervert for writing a story about a hooking wife who tricks her husband into gay prostitution counts as quality feedback. Should I ignor such posters as jackasses and hypocrites? Aren't we all here for the same thing...to indulge our sexual fantasies in a safe and harmless environment?

I have noticed that the "negative" posters are all anonymous (like the guy who suggests I cut of my balls). Cowards? Or do they know in their hearts that their posts have nothing to do with assisting a writers in improving their work?

Note that I penned "negative" in quotes. What I consider negative are personal attack posts. I have no objection to constructive critism and have always welcomed it. That is how one improves!!!

But I need some guidance from some of you more experienced with this site. How much weight should I give "negative" posters in adjusting my writing style and story concepts? Should non-constructive posts or insulting posts be deleted? I am not a fan of censorship, but I fail to see how those type of posts help me or help other readers decide if they should read my story or not.

Perhaps the posters in this forum could look at my story and tell me if if delves outside the norm of Literotica posts. I don't believe so, obviously the editors don't think so, but some honest, constructive critisicm would be very helpful be fore I post part 2.

My story is titled "Making Ends Meet"
http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=177975

Thank you.

 

[Darkest Lord]

Do not be discouraged by those who only seek to defile what others work so hard to create.

 

[Tibxo]

Hi, 75corner.

I read your story and found it very well written. The fact that the "friend from work" turned out to be a man was a clever twist which you only find out about at the end.

However, I can understand people reacting strongly against it.

This is not because you are a pervert. It is because the majority of people reading it would have thought that the "friend from work" was a woman with all the sexual arousal that comes from such a scene - only to find out that "she" is a "he". A repugnant situation for the majority of hetrosexual males. If it was I who had written the story, I would have used either the Gay category or put up a warning that this story contains sexual activity between two men.

But please do not be put off by this. Literotica is, among other things, an erotic story site 'erotic' means different things to different people.

Keep writing.

 

[JRaven]

Aren't we all?

I'll probably just echo Tibvo, but at least you'll know that two people are thinking along the same lines. You probably put it in the wrong category. I think that most people that read the Loving Wives category are looking for cuckold/slut wife type stories. I had written a story where a guy gives another guy head so that he could screw his wife. I put it in the Erotic Couplings category.

The story is well written. I did find a few things lacking. One is that it wasn't until toward the end of the story when the wife and her friend from work were with the guy that we found out her name. Initially, I thought "Becky" was the friend's name.

I also didn't the wife at all. She comes across as an extremely cold hearted bitch when she was caught by her husband. Later in the story, you try to make her a loving wife to her husband. It's a hard sell.

Good luck. Next time you post, really consider the category.

Jenny

 

[75corner]

Thank you all for your kind words. I like telling stories and I like giving them twists to try and grab my readers' attention and keep them involved.

This is my first attempt at writing erotica. Perhaps the twist was too much, as you said. But I can't take it back now! I have some other story ideas in my head that I'd love to put on paper. I've also promised a sequel to this story. It will involve both straight and gay sex by both parties, a test to the relationship and eventualy, a strengthening of their love for each other. Do you think I should continue this story-line, though, if it shocks so many hetero-sexuals?

As far as where I posted it...They really are a loving couple and not gay, though they do participate in same-sex unions for pay. I hesitate to place the series under "gay" because that is not where it is leading. However, if you feel strongly that it should be in the "gay" section, I will bow to the more experienced head in Literotica.

I also didn't realize there was an "Erotic Couplings" category. That might be a netter place for it. Though it might shock a few people there too!

Question: If I move the story, do the votes and comments follow it, or will I lose them? Or should I just post sequels under the new category?

And, yes....Becky is a cold-hearted bitch. In my mind, accepting the role change from house wife to working woman to prostitute would have had an effect on her home personality. She has already justified her profession to herself and now, caught by her husband, she has two choices....break down and cry in tears for forgiveness, thus destroying the barrier she set up in her mind and her justification that she is doing it for the family's survival or, as she did, stand strong and maintain the belief that she is doing the right thing. In real life I'm certain such situations have occurred in marriages and my belief is that a wife with such a husband would tough it out. I think a cold-hearted bitch is what she had to be in such a situation or risk losing all. I happen to know a few married prostitutes...it is sort of rampant in my town...I'll do some research with them before my next installation to get some real world input!

Now, bringing the husband into the profession...that may have been quite a stretch but one I was willing to work with.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear earlier in the story that Becky is his wife. I'll watch out for that type of thing in the future.

Continue to tell me what you think, and thanks for all of your constructive and complimentary responses to my story!

 

[Tibxo]

75corner, I don't think you gave your story too much of a twist. As I said, it was a good one. Nor would I stop writing such a story because it may shock people (including hetero-sexuals - whoops spelt it wrong in my last post).

The only advice is to carry on and just enjoy writing the story. People may judge your story harshly, even be insulting about it, but, unfortunately, that's what can happen when you post to a public forum. Just remember that you are entitled to write whatever you like (within the guidelines of this site) and you are not forcing people to read it.

Regarding what category to enter each chapter under: of course that is up to you. I personally use the category system to judge what type of content each story may contain. Likewise, when I write a story, I put it under the category which best represents its content - not necessarily where it is leading to.

Besides, there is no rule that all your chapters have to belong under one category.

Anyway, just carry on writing.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Stay away from the "Loving Wives" category if you possibly can. It's notorious for attracting really nasty feedback, and has been the subject of a lot of discussion amongst Lit authors.

Apparently a lot of people go there expecting "Erotic Coupling"-like stories, and then get really angry when they see extra-marital sex. Then there are other readers who just seem to like to read about cheating wives and then vent their spleen against the author. Don't know why this is. Maybe they've been cuckolded themselves. In any case, the feedback there frequently is very angry, vindictive. and personal.

So it's not you and it's not your story. It's the people who hang out there. Try to stay away, or at least know that anything you publish in that category is going to attract that kind of feedback.

---dr.M.

 

[75corner]

Stay away from the "Loving Wives" category if you possibly can. It's notorious for attracting really nasty feedback, and has been the subject of a lot of discussion amongst Lit authors.

Apparently a lot of people go there expecting "Erotic Coupling"-like stories, and then get really angry when they see extra-marital sex. Then there are other readers who just seem to like to read about cheating wives and then vent their spleen against the author. Don't know why this is. Maybe they've been cuckolded themselves. In any case, the feedback there frequently is very angry, vindictive. and personal.

So it's not you and it's not your story. It's the people who hang out there. Try to stay away, or at least know that anything you publish in that category is going to attract that kind of feedback.

---dr.M.

Boy, are you ever right! You haven't seen the anonymous crap sent to my e-mail! I cannot repeat the words they used there! But, heck, thanks to those anonymous posters I now know that: a) I am the spawn of an un-sanctioned union between my parents, b) the progeny of assorted and varied beasts, c) I eat my meals from a nether orifice (the same one others have recommened I stuff various stiff objects up), d) I need to register on a sex offender list and e) my family and I should commit hari kari.

And...that's paraphrasing the TAME ones! Oh, if only these cute and original posters would put that talent to use writing they could enrich literature in a way the Shaekespere couldn't.

I was really in the doldrums when I started this thread...but the kind words here have really picked me up! Now, instead of being depressed, I feel sorry for those poor soles (no typo). I suspect some have been hurt greatly in life, others are repressing and still others are just plain hypocrites. Why have they signed up for Literotica in the first place? Maybe, after the fact, they feel guilty that their baser instincts have forced them to realize they have sexual instincts? Maybe they are angry at being lonely?

Whatever the case, I was raised by my parents to believe that sex is a good thing and that openess and honesty is the best way to grow in sexuality. Heck, if it weren't for sex, this planet would be ruled by ameobas.

So, I'm out of my funk. I've taken all of your comments seriously. I'm going to continue writing but be more careful where I post. Too bad my wives can't be loving anymore. Is there a celebate wives category? LOL. Maybe I'll write a story of a country where all sexual activity is illegal! Shortest lived country on the planet! Years ago (1960s, I think) there was a religion formed in the U.S. that prohibited sex in any form. They took Matthew's biblical text on the relationship between celibacy and closeness to God too literally. The church didn't last long. Something about Darwinism? And, if these posters REALLY believe what they are saying, they had better start checking next door for their bored spouses!

Chow for now!

 

[JRaven]

If somebody doesn't like your story because of that bitch,
if somebody doesn't like your story because it didn't have a fairytale ending,
if somebody doesn't like your story because it ended to soon for them and they want you to write more,
It's all okay!

The grammar and spelling were good. The story flowed nicely. As a writer, painter, or sculpter, we try to get a reaction from our audience. Not all negative feedback is necessarily a bad thing.

You did well!

Jenny

 

[75corner]

If somebody doesn't like your story because of that bitch,
if somebody doesn't like your story because it didn't have a fairytale ending,
if somebody doesn't like your story because it ended to soon for them and they want you to write more,
It's all okay!

The grammar and spelling were good. The story flowed nicely. As a writer, painter, or sculpter, we try to get a reaction from our audience. Not all negative feedback is necessarily a bad thing.

You did well!

Jenny

Thank you! Heartening words!

 

[Honey123]

Hey, 75 -- welcome to Lit!

I read your story, voted and left a PC. I enjoyed your story.

I wouldn't be so concerned about the feedback you have gotten. You've reached the reader ~ isn't that what it is all about?

I hope you continue writing!

 

[75corner]

Thanks

Hey, 75 -- welcome to Lit!

I read your story, voted and left a PC. I enjoyed your story.

I wouldn't be so concerned about the feedback you have gotten. You've reached the reader ~ isn't that what it is all about?

I hope you continue writing!

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement!

 

[Tibxo]

Just one question, 75corner. Where is your next instalment???

 

[Lady Cassandra]

I have the same question as Tibvo.

 

[Esha]

dear heart...if someone is just cutting you down to cut you down, plain Jane ignore them.


The best suggestion I can give you is to make sure the story is categorized right.... I know that in a way it "ruins" the twist...but at least you know it will be read by people who enjoy the concept. In fact, instead of ruining it, you might get the opposite effect...they will spend the whole time reading thinking "WTF? I thought this was a homosexual story....??" only to be pleasantly surprised at the end.

Keep writing.

 

[75corner]

Re: Where is next installment

Just one question, 75corner. Where is your next instalment???

Sorry...just SLIGHTLY delayed....ran into some tight deadline trouble for the New Year. Gotta finish up the paying jobs before I finish edits on installment two. I'll be submitting it on Saturday, then its up to Literotica how long it takes to post. My last story wasn't posted until 7 days after submission.

Don't worry. It' is coming. Thanks for your concern!

 

[steve w]

Just to reiterate the ever-wise words of Dr Mab.

"Loving Wives" as a category attracts a lot of spiteful vitriol, and should be avoided at all costs.

In my experience, ANY story that shows a wife having sex with anyone other than her husband, always attracts some stupid tosser who thinks it's clever to call you sick, perverted, or otherwise attacking the fictional wife. Even if the wife has the husband's permission, or even if the marital status is irrelevant to the purpose of the story.

There are just some people out there who will do that. Ignore them, they're stupid. Keep going with what you want to write, in your way.

 

[sweetnpetite]

pervert.


i can't wait to read it.

 

[Wholemanz]

Pervert

Pervert?

Hmm... one man's pervert in another woman's sex slave...

Giggles

Holly

 

[Lady Cassandra]

Hmm... one man's pervert in another woman's sex slave....

There ya' go.

 

[75corner]

Re: Pervert

Pervert?

Hmm... one man's pervert in another woman's sex slave...

Giggles

Holly

Hmmmm....you just gave me a new story idea! Thanks, Wholemanz!

 

[AnotherBoredMan]

I Just posted my first story to Literotica. The first couple of responses were great and helpful, then some trashing occured. I opened my story up to feedback because I really am interested in knowing what type of stories people would most like to hear and also because I wish to hone my writing style. I'm confused and trying to figure out how being called a pervert for writing a story about a hooking wife who tricks her husband into gay prostitution counts as quality feedback. Should I ignor such posters as jackasses and hypocrites? Aren't we all here for the same thing...to indulge our sexual fantasies in a safe and harmless environment?


--Honestly, I dont believe there really is such a thing as a pervert, we're all horribly messed up, sick, and twisted. In this cruel and dreadful world we live in there really is little chance to come out as some would consider "normal". I was brought up by very good law obiding people, and yet here I am, an evil man with numerous "perverted" traits. I say go for it, write what you feel, because it is only in words that any of us are truly free.

 

[snfl_grl]

Pervert? Don't make me laugh. That is thier opinion and their opinion ONLY. If you like what you have written, that is all that matters. As you said, this site is where we may let out our most secret of fetishes that we often hide from others. Here we can let it all out. There are a great deal of many people that love that subject that you have written. Do not let them way you down at all. If they are "negative" so be it. Just do not think your writing is the best of everyone and you will be fine.

 

[An Awful Cad]

Looks like I'm one too

I too just posted my first story (as well as my first submission to the forums), and according to the feedback, it is, among other things, "sick, depraved and depressing."

Now, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but the "depressing" comment kinda pissed me off. It was supposed to be *uplifting,* if you get my drift.

Also, apparently, should I ever find myself in need of disemboweling, I have several options from among the kind volunteers here at Lit.

And 75, as for the original question, I liked "Making Ends Meet" a lot. But since I'm an admitted pervert, that may not be much comfort to you.

I'll submit the link to my story here because I'd love to hear what you all think of it, but also because I think the posters in this thread can probably appreciate the public commentary more than most.

The Stories

Straight to the Public Comments

 

[NoJo]

You're a good writer, Awful Cad, so fuck everything else. Nice to read well-written porn.

(ps 1st para of Ch. 1 is me to a T)