All the social justice warrior Amazon fire hype & hysteria is "bullshit"

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All the social justice warrior Amazon fire hype & hysteria is "bullshit"

The increase in fires burning in Brazil set off a storm of international outrage last week. Celebrities, environmentalists, and political leaders blame Brazilian president, Jair Bolsonaro, for destroying the world’s largest rainforest, the Amazon, which they say is the “lungs of the world.”

Singers and actors including Madonna and Jaden Smith shared photos on social media that were seen by tens of millions of people. “The lungs of the Earth are in flames,” said actor Leonardo DiCaprio. “The Amazon Rainforest produces more than 20% of the world’s oxygen,” tweeted soccer star Cristiano Ronaldo. “The Amazon rain forest — the lungs which produce 20% of our planet’s oxygen — is on fire,” tweeted French President Emanuel Macron.

And yet the photos weren’t actually of the fires and many weren’t even of the Amazon. The photo Ronaldo shared was taken in southern Brazil, far from the Amazon, in 2013. The photo that DiCaprio and Macron shared is over 20 years old. The photo Madonna and Smith shared is over 30. Some celebrities shared photos from Montana, India, and Sweden.

But both publications repeated the claim that the Amazon is the “lungs” of the world. “The Amazon remains a net source of oxygen today,” said CNN. “The Amazon is often referred to as Earth’s ‘lungs,’ because its vast forests release oxygen and store carbon dioxide, a heat-trapping gas that is a major cause of global warming,” claimed The New York Times.

I was curious to hear what one of the world’s leading Amazon forest experts, Dan Nepstad, had to say about the “lungs” claim.

“It’s bullshit,” he said. “There’s no science behind that. The Amazon produces a lot of oxygen but it uses the same amount of oxygen through respiration so it’s a wash.”

Why Everything They Say About The Amazon, Including That It's The "Lungs Of The World," Is Wrong
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#52a054ec5bde
 
Why Everything They Say About The Amazon, Including That It's The "Lungs Of The World," Is Wrong
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#52a054ec5bde

How did the Earth breathe 17,000 years ago when the Amazon jungle didn't exist?

I should have said 21,000 years ago when the Amazon was much diminished coming out of the Last Glacial Maximum. At any rate the term "lungs of the Earth" is a falsehood. This from Forbes:

"I was curious to hear what one of the world’s leading Amazon forest experts, Dan Nepstad, had to say about the “lungs” claim.

“It’s bullshit,” he said. “There’s no science behind that. The Amazon produces a lot of oxygen but it uses the same amount of oxygen through respiration so it’s a wash.”

Plants use respiration to convert nutrients from the soil into energy. They use photosynthesis to convert light into chemical energy, which can later be used in respiration.

What about The New York Times claim that “If enough rain forest is lost and can’t be restored, the area will become savanna, which doesn’t store as much carbon, meaning a reduction in the planet’s ‘lung capacity’”?

Also not true, said Nepstad, who was a lead author of the most recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report. “The Amazon produces a lot of oxygen, but so do soy farms and [cattle] pastures.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...the-lungs-of-the-world-is-wrong/#3eb4ef7f5bde
 
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How did the Earth breathe 17,000 years ago when the Amazon jungle didn't exist?

I'm not arguing with you because I don't know about these things, but the world wasn't developed/concreted over 17,000 years ago as it is today, so even if the Amazon jungle as it is today didn't exist, much of the rest of the world will have been a forest, no?
 
President Trump had an opportunity to present all these latest findings to other world leaders, to show the world that there is no looming climate catastrophe, and he totally blew it by not showing up to the meeting. Why on earth would he do that?
 
President Trump had an opportunity to present all these latest findings to other world leaders, to show the world that there is no looming climate catastrophe, and he totally blew it by not showing up to the meeting. Why on earth would he do that?

He was busy meeting with Merkel and that guy from India. Plus they hadn't really had that meeting, so he hadn't really missed it. :rolleyes:
 
He was busy meeting with Merkel and that guy from India. Plus they hadn't really had that meeting, so he hadn't really missed it. :rolleyes:

But Cheeto's big time. The biggest of the bigs.

As the Head Honcho of the Bestest Nation On Earth, he coulda easily made that meeting happen and dropped his expansive knowledge and acumen with a wave of his magic prezzydentshul hands...but...but...but...

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Clearing the rainforests and burning them to make new soybean fields and cattle pastures?

Move along...nothing to see here.

Actually, I've read that a good reason to keep the rainforests is the extreme biodiversity. Animal and plant.

There are untold new medicines hiding under the canopy.

Medicines we need for modern diseases brought on by pollution and other environmental factors.
 
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