All of the governments in the world are now 100% criminal and illegitimate

[Mike_Yates]

A shadowy global criminal enterprise operating inside large corporations, the international banking and financial system, and military industrial complex, has seized control over the governments of major countries and is using them to further their criminal agendas. ESPECIALLY in the United States.

 

[DonovanCrane]

And most people would prefer to deny that or ignore it than face up to the facts that we have allowed it to happen, and we continue to give our silent consent to illegitimate rulers. I foresee a lot of people either ignoring this thread, or bursting out in vitriolic anger and outrage against such a heretical idea.

 

[MrNiceGuy22]

I smell a crack pot.... maybe people wouldnt ignore if you had a rationale

 

[DonovanCrane]

I have neither the time nor the patience to argue with anyone on here. Mostly because that is all it would be: arguments. I could post this evidence and that, all of which time consuming to hunt down and link, and everyone else could post their counterpoints, denials, etc., round after round, and, in the end, nobody's mind is going to be changed by an argument on a sex forum.

Those who actually care to see what's going on in the world around them can learn if they so choose. Those who would like to keep on the blinders offered by a media driven by propaganda and entertainment will continue to align themselves with the Liberal or Conservative agendas, blissfully oblivious to the fact that their so-called leaders care nothing for the people, and only about themselves and their own political and economic advancement.

Additional arguments would rest on values which differ from one individual to another, and that too leads to an impasse.

Arguments usually lead to one side or both growing defensive, and therefore quite deaf, conveniently dismissing every fact with which they disagree, blaming either their opponent or the source for "mischaracterization".

The evidence is plain for anyone to see, regarding the criminality of government, and countless incidents under the last several administrations even made it into the mainstream media. If you're interested, happy hunting.

 

[sigh]

It's the Templars. Or the Masons. Or the Illuminati.

I always get them mixed up.


I too foresee a lot of people ignoring this thread, but no vitriolic anger. If it does gain attention, I would expect guarded agreement from some, and a lot of ridicule from the others.

I'm in the guarded agreement camp in that corporations have undue (and largely accepted, especially in the courts) influence in government affairs, but I don't see a shadowy conspiracy. Rather, I simply see that the rich have greatly more influence in what decisions are made than the poor, and that's pretty much the way it's always been.

 

[DonovanCrane]

The only "shadowy" part of the conspiracy is the fact that I don't think all of the parts even know that they're collaborating with each other. For example, I don't think the Republicans and Democrats know that they're actually helping each other screw everyone else.

The Masons aren't behind it. Certainly there are corrupt Masons in government, but there are also perfectly decent, working class Masons working in the local grocery store. The Templars have been obliterated for centuries, though some ghosts thereof survived through Masonry, and, if you believe they're claims, re-emerged in the German Ordo Templi Orientis around the turn of the century. Not a political conspiracy, of course, but rather an organization similar to the Masons, using arcane and occult symbols to ostensibly teach morals, and in reality allow people of like interests to get together, study, and advance one another's understanding of any number of subjects. As to the Illuminati, I doubt that there's any survival of the historical group. but there are quite a number of groups claiming the name today, most of which are rather small and petty, but some have a great sense of humor

The corruption I refer to exists in the corporate, media, etc., most of which only collaborating because they can use one another to advance their own agendas. There is no real unity to this "conspiracy".

 

[DonovanCrane]

My prediction of a vitriolic response was based on the frequency with which I've seen people on the GB get very bent out of shape over the most trivial of issues. Many people seem to take the internet far too personally for their own good. Beyond that, many people are so attached to their political affiliations that they take it quite personally when one speaks ill of the deified party. (Yes, I see this flaw on both the left and the right.)

 

[eyer]

There is no real unity to this "conspiracy".

That's because it's not a "conspiracy"...

...it's simply the way of the world.

 

[Mike_Yates]

I have neither the time nor the patience to argue with anyone on here. Mostly because that is all it would be: arguments. I could post this evidence and that, all of which time consuming to hunt down and link, and everyone else could post their counterpoints, denials, etc., round after round, and, in the end, nobody's mind is going to be changed by an argument on a sex forum.

Those who actually care to see what's going on in the world around them can learn if they so choose. Those who would like to keep on the blinders offered by a media driven by propaganda and entertainment will continue to align themselves with the Liberal or Conservative agendas, blissfully oblivious to the fact that their so-called leaders care nothing for the people, and only about themselves and their own political and economic advancement.

Additional arguments would rest on values which differ from one individual to another, and that too leads to an impasse.

Arguments usually lead to one side or both growing defensive, and therefore quite deaf, conveniently dismissing every fact with which they disagree, blaming either their opponent or the source for "mischaracterization".

The evidence is plain for anyone to see, regarding the criminality of government, and countless incidents under the last several administrations even made it into the mainstream media. If you're interested, happy hunting.

99% of Americans are too busy with watching sports and television, playing video games, getting drunk, getting fat, having sex, shopping, etc... than to give a shit about serious international political and economic affairs.

This is the main reason why these shady criminal forces deep inside governments and corporations have been able to get away with so much, because they know that they can and nobody cares enough to look at what they are doing. And it will get MUCH worse as long as the dumbed-down American sheeple are distracted by professional sports and mindless entertainment.

 

[StephenHawking]

did you catch lebron's layup? what a finish!

 

[warrior queen]

I will neither argue nor ridicule.
I will simply point out that we have a Prime Minister who dates a hairdresser, and an Opposition Leader who's a mysoginist.
No way are either of them smart enough to follow direction from anybody!

 

[ChinaBandit]

I will neither argue nor ridicule.
I will simply point out that we have a Prime Minister who dates a hairdresser, and an Opposition Leader who's a mysoginist.
No way are either of them smart enough to follow direction from anybody!

Julia should be home weeding the garden.

Tony Abbott seems like that special kind of dick.

Australia could be fucked.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I wish to Hell that you dolts would learn the difference between ARGUMENT and QUARREL.