All Mr. HWMNBN, all of the time

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Once upon a time, all roads lead to Rome.

2016, and all media paths lead to Mr. HWMNBN

The Bottomless Pit, That is Mr. HWSNBN

There is room for anyone in the Bottomless Pit!

Mr. HWMNBN's wife rarely speaks in public.

"The candidate’s third wife has been out of the public eye for two months—a strangely long silence for a campaign spouse."

Donald Trump and his children did his photo-op on Saturday with new running mate Mike Pence and his family, and Melania was literally absent from the pictures.

The last, and really only, time Melania Trump spoke out on the campaign trail, it was in early April and it was when Trump was doing very badly.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...mp-2016-republican-national-convention-214063


When she does, she praises her husband.
Mrs. HWSNBN was shoved onto the stage, to repeat the lines of a speech that had shoddy workmanship.

Was she set up, intentionally ?

Was was meant to fail ?
Was she meant to attract negative attention ?
Was she meant to keep the family name in news cycles ?

How many excuses were given for her speech ?

She is not from this country.
It is different, where she is from.

"...et’s give Melania a break. She’s a first-generation immigrant, after all. And, as a very reliable source has recently informed us, even some third-generation immigrants refuse to assimilate into American society. You know, America, the place where everyone writes their own work."


http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat...rism_was_just_scholarship_european_style.html

There is a plagiarism problem in Easern Europe

"The scandal over Putin’s dissertation led nowhere. But because the head of state’s deed had no repercussions whatsoever, a new trend emerged in the country: plagiarism in the writing and defense of dissertation works began on an unprecedented scale.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...as-plagiarism-problem-even-putin-has-done-it/


Communications Director Jason Miller: It “Included Fragments That Reflected Her Own Thinking”

Chris Christie: “93% Of The Speech” Was Not Plagiarized

Paul Manafort: It’s Hillary’s Fault

Manafort said the words Melania used were not "cribbed" but are common words.

"There's no cribbing of Michelle Obama's speech. These were common words and values. She cares about her family," Manafort said. "To think that she'd be cribbing Michelle Obama's words is crazy."


Manafort, on CNN's "New Day," said the scrutiny over Melania Trump's speech was the work of Clinton's campaign.

"This is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, she seeks out to demean her and take her down. It's not going to work," he said.

However, Trump's aides haven't pointed to any evidence of Democrats' involvement in fanning the controversy.

Trump Spokeswoman Katrina Pierson: Michelle Obama Didn’t Invent English

Ben Carson: It Just Shows They Have The Same Values
Republican

RNC Spokesman Sean Spicer: Actually, Michelle Obama Plagiarized From My Little Pony

Spicer argued that other pop culture icons have made similar statements. "John Legend said, 'Work hard to be anyone you want in life'; Kid Rock says, 'Work hard to be anything you want in life,'" Spicer told MSNBC.

Anonymous Trump Source: “It’s Piss Poor Staff Work”

Trump Spokeswoman Katrina Pierson: Melania “Wanted To Communicate To Americans In Phrases They Have Heard Before”

"English isn’t Melania’s first language" defense
This one also came from Pierson


Meredith McIver writes a long page of apology, about helping her with the speech over the phone

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html


There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.

- Oscar Wilde


Melania Trump apparently plagiarized first lady Michelle Obama in a speech at yesterday’s Republican National Convention, for example, she could probably have brushed it aside with a quiet non-statement. But in its trademark fashion, the campaign has responded with a series of increasingly belligerent justifications, proceeding from merely vague to downright bewildering.

As we’ve previously documented, the pettier a conflict, the further Donald Trump and those around him will go to defend it in the most nonsensical ways possible.


gsgs comment-

Their names are directly attached to Mr.HWMNBN. Their comments lead directly to Mr. HWMNBN getting a mention.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/19/1...-michelle-obama-rnc-plagiarism-excuses-ranked

Anything for attention. Pretending to be someone else...

In 1990, Trump testified in a court case that “I believe on occasion I used that name.”

Trump has never been terribly adamant about denying that he often made calls to reporters posing as someone else. From his earliest years in business, he occasionally called reporters using the name “John Barron.”

Barron was quoted variously as a “Trump spokesman,” “Trump executive” or “Trump representative” in New York magazine, The Washington Post and other publications.


Trump's John Miller alt-

Carswell played the tape for Maples, who confirmed it was Trump and burst into tears as she heard Miller deny that a ring Trump gave her implied any intent to marry her.

"That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”

- Mr. HWMNBN


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ac99ec-16fe-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/07/20/486782643/watch-trumps-plane-interrupts-ted-cruz-rally-crowd-boos
Ted Cruz couldn't even make it through thanking his own supporters without being overshadowed by Donald Trump.

Before speaking at the Republican National Convention Wednesday night, the Texas senator and 2016 GOP primary runner-up had gathered over 1,200 of his volunteers and backers at a restaurant on a dock along the Cleveland waterfront, firing them up as though he was back at a campaign rally.

He hadn't mentioned Donald Trump at all, instead boasting of the victories they amassed in the primary and just how close they came.

"In an amazing campaign field of 17 talented, dynamic candidates, we beat 15 of those candidates," Cruz said. We just didn't beat 16."

"Our party now has a nominee," he started. And as if on cue, the billionaire businessman's plane emblazoned with "TRUMP" across the side flew overhead to land nearby.

"That was pretty well orchestrated," Cruz laughed, taking it in stride as many supporters began booing loudly.

"Jeff, did you email them to fly the plane right when I said that?" he asked his former campaign manager Jeff Roe.
 
I need to dream of the Powerpuff Girls punching his orange cartoon nose, and sending his lumpy body into the sky.
 
Jabba the Hutt, for president ? ewwwww

So, Melania's joke speech...


"...in a letter notably written on letterhead identifying her as an employee of the Trump Organization, which, under federal law, cannot lend a campaign its resources, speechwriter Meredith McIver admitted the two worked together to crib Michelle Obama’s words."

The relevant passage in McIver’s mea culpa is as follows: “In working with Melania Trump on her recent First Lady speech, we discussed many people who inspired her and messages she wanted to share with the American people. A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama. Over the phone, she read me some passages from Mrs. Obama’s speech as examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama’s speeches. This was my mistake, and I feel terrible for the chaos that I have caused Melania and the Trumps, as well as to Mrs. Obama.”


gsgs comment-

So, legally she should NOT have been helping Melania.

(Where was Mr. HWMNBN's advisor ?)

Melanie knew she was inserting someone else's speech, into her own speech.

So lies
Much dishonest
Stinks

/end Doge sequence
 
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I think you probably dropped a "not" in this sentence:

"So, legally she should have been helping Melania."

I give Melania some slack on this as it is described as going down. A whole lot of people don't understand the workings of plagiarism--not McIver, though, unless she's just taking the fall for it. I think it's more interesting, and an indication that Melania does some of her own thinking and is either brave or also clueless about politics, that she acknowledges admiring Michelle Obama and agreeing with her enough to include what she says in the speech.

At least it gave me the pleasure of imagining how upsetting it must be to some of the polarized reactionaries posting to this board that Melania admires Michelle. :)
 
there seems to be two Trumps

There are two Trumps, the one who first declared he was running wanted to build a wall and provide a single-payer health system. He wanted to increase the taxes on the wealthy and start a massive infrastructure project to make jobs. Hell if he had been a democrat I might have voted for him.

But then the Republicans called him to heel and suddenly he is a born-again republican asshole. Now he wants to cut taxes on the rich, kill Planned Parenthood funding and appoint judges to the supreme court who would do their best to shove women back into the kitchen, give the church more of a say in everything and take the leash off of corporate america.

The big question isn't if he is lying. The question is when was he lying, is he fucking the republicans to get in office and then if they give him too much grief he reverts back into his old self and works with democrats. It must lead to more than a few Maalox moments for republican leadership.l
 
He was lying both times. He lies all of the time. The joke on the Republicans, though, is that he's lying more now than when he started (because he thinks it's sort of fun that he maintains his base no matter what outrageous lie he tells)--he'll be far more eclectic and liberal than Clinton is if he gets elected. No matter, though, Congress won't let him actually do much no matter which party controls Congress. He'll certainly say a lot of embarrassing clap trap, though, and shake up the world--and not in a good way. It will take his supporters a few weeks to understand that they've been had, but that will be sort of fun to watch.
 
Hocus Pocus!

That is what the people who practice the art of "magic," would say, when giving their "patrons" a "reveal."

Skeptics pull magic tricks apart and examine how it was done.
People love magic tricks, but as entertainment.
Reasonable people do not elect someone who bases their office on hocus pocus.

Through magic, Mr. HWMNBN has accomplished the impossible.
He is all things, to all people.
Except for the fact that he is not.

Latest poll, July 7, 2016
Republican women are not buying Mr.HWMNBN.
Women across the USA do not want Mr.HWMNBN.
Women have soundly rejected him.
Melanie, Ivanka, and Tiffany did not convince women
that Mr. HWMNBN is acceptable.
Minorities do not want him.

Michael Moore did not endorse Mr. HWMNBN.
He endorsed Bernie.
He most likely will vote for Hillary.
He did give observations about why Mr. HWMNBN could win.

He did say-

"I am sorry to be a buzzkill here too early on, but I think Mr.HWMNBN is gonna win."

Mr. HWMNBN's supporters were nearly in unision in their desire to see Hillary locked up in jail, at the 2016 Ohio GOP Convention.

Who could have predicted that the Brexit would happen ?

Yes, the deal with the European Union did treat the UK unfairly.
But, not enough to cause the UK to return to the days of Margaret Thatcher.

*hat tipped to Cleaver, for noticing why.

July 21, 2016

People are complacent.
Who believes that Mr. HWMNBN will win ?

gsgs comment-

I am fearful that Mr. HWMNBN will win.

President Obama won by a thin margin.
Despite the efforts that various groups
put into blocking the vote, President Obama won.

For whatever reasons there are, people are willing
to deny reality, and vote for Mr. HWMNBN.

Sending the established politicals in Washington a message,
by putting Mr. HWMNBN in the presidential chair
is not the answer.

/end gsgs comment

Sourced from "Here's Why Michael Moore Thinks Trump Will Win"

Huffington Post
 
Billy and his wife attended his wedding. And Il Donald has divided the Republican party for more than any Teahadist ever did.

Just saying.
 
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