AI RealDolls

FallenMorgan

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RealDolls are very human-looking sex dolls. On the wikipedia article it suggests that, quite possibly, they would try at integrating artificial intelligence and whatnot. This gave me a somewhat in-depth story idea, but first:

In your opinion, by when would a fully sentient humanoid robot be possible? Like 2050, 2100, etc? My bet is on 2100. Here's the little idea, but the main point is the above paragraph, so this doesn't belong in story ideas really:

It's 2100, and sentient humanoid robots are very common. Abyss Creations has expanded to a multinational corporation, specializing in the construction of humanoid robots for various purposes, with a still-thriving market as sex dolls and companions for lonely people.

Despite the ability these robots have to learn, make choices, and do other things that seem very human, they are defined legally as property. The main character of this story buys one of these robots as a companion, more than a sex doll. He is a Robo-Humanist, someone who believes in equal rights for sentient robots, opposed to Robo-Apartheidists, who support robots as property.

When he gets the "girl," who's name I haven't thought up yet, instead of immediately banging the robot, he gets her clothing and whatnot, before activating her. Her initial programming makes her very shy, which matches the main character's (I usually base main characters on me) personality a whole lot.

The "girl" initially is incredibly robotic, very un-intelligent, other than the ability read, write, and understand English. She begins to learn things and whatnot, and, I'm not sure when, but the conflict between Humanists and Apartheidists comes into the context of the story, when the two of them go out. A group of idiots grabs the "girl," and attempt to rape her. The main character guy shoots one of them, and the others run away.

The main character is arrested, because under current laws, it wouldn't count as defense of another person, because a robot is legally property. The court battle boils down to the legal conflict. A jury aquits (spelling?) the main character, and becomes an important person to the Robo-Humanist movement. The story ends with a cute epilogue explaining that at some point, the US constitution was given a new amendment, explaining that any robot created with sentience is a citizen of the United States, or something.

Of course there's going to be sex in there. I don't know how it would happen, since the main character, being based on me, isn't too super-interested in sex, and the "girl" is programmed to be shy.

Whatta you think?
 
Futurama's "Don't Date Robots" commercial comes to mind... that's more of a funny take on it though.

Interesting idea. :rose:
 
This is very similar to a them from Piers Anthony's The Apprentice Adept series. (yes I know the title is not in correct book title format)

One of my favorite series and would recommend it as a read if you haven't already.
 
Robin Williams starred in this movie not to long ago. Or did I dream that. :eek:
 
Read 'The Stone Gods' Jeanette Winterson, writing about a relationship with an AI requires enormous perspective shift.
 
In your opinion, by when would a fully sentient humanoid robot be possible? Like 2050, 2100, etc? My bet is on 2100. Here's the little idea, but the main point is the above paragraph, so this doesn't belong in story ideas really:

To answer this question: never?
 
I'm with gauche. We'll never have artificial intelligence.

How can we fake something if we don't know what it it?
 
I have written a story about a sentient doll, who is programmed to be the owner's dom mistress: Golem

Og
 
Heretic ! Luddite !

ok then, I'll qualify it.

AI is possible in two scenarios. First a computer the size of a planet in order to overcome the tunnelling effect prevalent in today's solid chip limit and to make every connection required to create a human brain. This can model realtime conditions of human thinking. (the obvious drawback isn't the size but Rob's point, even if it can pass the Turing test, to be intelligent it needs to be able to describe its own function. People can't do that.)

Next. The science becomes available to recreate everything required for a brain to perform human cogitive function and the space required to fit inside a head. This is not amenable to mass production and takes more than a year to build. Babies take 40 weeks.

Size of a planet or vastly extended gestation. If the result is intelligence then you can only use it for 18 years before you are not allowed by law to control it any longer.

Brain ships would be simpler.
 
There are a lot of intelligent sex surrogate robot stories out there, and a fair number of sex robot enthusiasts. Google "ASFR" (alt.sex.fetish.robots) for some interesting sites. Also see the Wikipedia article on ASFR.

For a usable, if controversial, definition of robot intelligence, see the Wikipedia article on the Turing Test.
 
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Atificial intelligence in a sex robot? Sure. In the same meaning as "artificial flowers". Something that looks like it enough to suspend disbelief, but really isn't. Can happen. And will.

But the moment the "artificial" becomes "actual" and the robot becomes sentient, we'd be in ethical fuckup-land trying to impost our will upon it by means of programming.
 
Well basically the story will have sentient human robots, like in that movie AI: Artificial Intelligence, or in the new Battlestar Galactica - not exactly, not as super advanced, with a few shortcomings that make them different from humans. For example, they don't breath, or make any internal motion that replicates it, etc. Basically one can say it's allegory to the movie AI: Artificial Intelligence, just a less super high tech future.
 
I'm with gauche and graham. While I'm unwilling to rule out the possibility of the Emergent Singularity, I'm fairly confident in my opinion that just because computers are getting faster doesn't mean we're going to be able to make them any smarter. I mean, look at Vista.

More seriously, achieving the creation of an intelligent machine (other than the good old fashioned way) isn't an issue of quantity but quality. Our understanding of cognitive science would need to take a qualitative leap, a classic "holy SHIT" paradigm shift. Because as graham says, right now, we don't even know how we know things.

Artificial life is a different story, methinks. I'm pretty sure we've got the computational cajones to design (biological) viruses and behavioral (mechanical) beasties like flatworms and fruit-flies. So, maybe toys that rut realistically are in our near future, but I wouldn't expect any decent foreplay out of them. :)

What stands in the way of simulacrum sex is the Uncanny Valley--Although the the alt.sex.fetish.robot crowd loves it in there. :D
 
Well basically the story will have sentient human robots, like in that movie AI: Artificial Intelligence, or in the new Battlestar Galactica - not exactly, not as super advanced, with a few shortcomings that make them different from humans. For example, they don't breath, or make any internal motion that replicates it, etc. Basically one can say it's allegory to the movie AI: Artificial Intelligence, just a less super high tech future.
Just a suggestion, if you're into a bit of plausibility in this story:

Robots that mimic breathing is easy to build. I know of life-like mannequin dolls with blinking eyes and heaving chests that are built today and used in trade shows. Kind of freaked me out first time I saw one. :)

So if you include that as a shortcoming for future robots, maybe you should say that it was an intentional designer choice, a subtle way to mark that they are in fact different from humans.
 
I think you're missing the point.

How intelligent would the robot need to be to have, say, the equivalent processing power of a blonde?
 
I think you're missing the point.

How intelligent would the robot need to be to have, say, the equivalent processing power of a blonde?

Do you mean a blonde like Hillary Clinton? Or a blonde like Paris Hilton?
 
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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Do you mean a blonde like Hillary Clinton? Or a blonde like Paris Hilton?


There's a difference? Is Paris a Republican?


"Democrat" is easier to spell, so Paris is probably that. :cool:
 
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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Do you mean a blonde like Hillary Clinton? Or a blonde like Paris Hilton?





"Democrat" is easier to spell, so Paris is probably that. :cool:

WATCH IT!!!

Speaking of which, when I pictured this in my mind, the robot "girl" looked like Paris. That doesn't mean I worship her as a sex goddess.
 
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