Ageplay Stories

[Epona's Chylde]

I hope I'm posting this in the right area....My S.O. posted an age play story here on Lit and was rejected. There's nothing in the Lit Guidelines forbidding such topics, yet he was told that Literotica is not accepting any age play stories.

Does anybody know anything about this? Has Lit unofficially changed their guidelines?

 

[Akito01]

I would have to guess it depends on the nature of the story. I'm sure Lit is concerned that, by using age-play as a kind of excuse, people might post pedo-stories, which would not be cool. On the other hand, I wrote a story some time ago called 'Magical Girl', which was inspired by Japanese cos-play (it's posted in the inter-racial section), but definitely had a bit of age-play going on. So, I honestly don't know if there is any hard and fast rule, or if things have changed, but if the story is intelligent, well written and isn't a pedo story in disguise, I don't imagine there should really be much of a problem.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

No, it definately wasn't a pedo story.

There was a disclaimer at the top that this was a story about consenting adults role playing and then in the body of the story, it mentions her age as being in "her mid 20's" and makes it clear that this is a story about a bdsm couple who sometimes do a daddy/daughter role play on certain nights.

He submitted it twice and was rejected both times. He finally got an answer that basically said "we're not accepting age play stories, period." So they KNEW it was about adults...

I know stories of this nature have been published on this site before, so this left me a bit confused.

He had a volunteer editor check his story out and they couldn't find anything wrong with it!

 

[Jagged]

Epona's Chylde......nice to see you again my dear. Looking lovely in your pic. Anyway the reason I writing this thread is that I know they can be very strict around here fair or not.....My ancient war thread I have to make every tribal princess or your heir to the thrown 18 even if in historical times they married much younger. I believe the guide lines don't even allow the thoughts of a younger person......So if you wrote a story about loving a man as a young girl and years later having a sexual relationship as an adult it still could be called. So watch your writing......we have free speach.....but the site has the rules. Take care.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

Thank you for the advice, Jagged (and the compliment )

I think what really threw me for a loop was the fact that this story was clearly about two adults (in a bdsm relationship) acting out a role play with each other...

Sometimes I wonder if we even live in american anymore!

 

[BedtimeStories77]

In the age-play was the pretend age actually mentioned? Like... "Even though Sara was 20, she loved to pretend she was 13 when her boyfriend/daddy was with her." That, Lit would not allow.

If there were strong *hints* of a child during the age-play scene Lit would not allow that either. Like... "Daddy enjoyed changing Sara's diapie for her." Or whatever...

It is in the guidelines that Lit won't allow stories with characters under 18 involved in sexual scenes. I'm sure if they feel someone is trying to bend that rule in any way they'll deny a story.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

In the age-play was the pretend age actually mentioned? Like... "Even though Sara was 20, she loved to pretend she was 13 when her boyfriend/daddy was with her." That, Lit would not allow.

If there were strong *hints* of a child during the age-play scene Lit would not allow that either. Like... "Daddy enjoyed changing Sara's diapie for her." Or whatever...

It is in the guidelines that Lit won't allow stories with characters under 18 involved in sexual scenes. I'm sure if they feel someone is trying to bend that rule in any way they'll deny a story.

Well the whole point of age play is to pretend to be a younger age, so yes it was mentioned that she likes pretending to be a young girl of a certain age. The point is that it specifically says this is 20something year old girl pretending to act 13 and makes several references throughout the story that "she wasn't a really a child" "she didn't really have a child's body" etc.

If you can write stories about pony play and puppy play (even though true bestiality is illegal), why can't you write stories about age play?

To me its the same concept. There is absolutely nothing illegal about a grown woman dressing up in pigtails and calling a man "daddy".

 

[bisexplicit]

If you can write stories about pony play and puppy play (even though true bestiality is illegal), why can't you write stories about age play?

Just a note - literotica does not accept stories involving animals, so that isn't really a valid point.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

Just a note - literotica does not accept stories involving animals, so that isn't really a valid point.

Thats what I just said. I said they allow stories of pony play and puppy play (which is PRETENDING to be an animal) even though TRUE bestiality is illegal.

Same thing goes for ageplay. Having sex with a child is illegal but PRETENDING to be a child isn't. So why are puppy play and pony play stories allowed on this site but age play stories are not? They both involve ROLE playing.

They DO accept stories about people PRETENDING to be animals (puppy play and pony play) so why don't they accept stories about people PRETENDING to be younger than 18 (age play)?

Am I making sense? I think maybe you didn't know what "puppy play" and "pony play" were.

 

[bisexplicit]

Am I making sense? I think maybe you didn't know what "puppy play" and "pony play" were.

Okay, yes, I understand. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that there was a genre of people pretending to be animals...

And actually - I agree with you. In fact, I'm surprised it wasn't allowed. I have read plenty of stories with a "barely legal" theme, which isn't too different from what you're suggesting, I think. I suppose theres small things in the story which make the owners of the site nervous.

For example, perhaps to literotica there is a difference between an 18 year old looking like a 16 year old and an 18 year old pretending to be a 4 year old.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

Okay, yes, I understand. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that there was a genre of people pretending to be animals...

And actually - I agree with you. In fact, I'm surprised it wasn't allowed. I have read plenty of stories with a "barely legal" theme, which isn't too different from what you're suggesting, I think. I suppose theres small things in the story which make the owners of the site nervous.

For example, perhaps to literotica there is a difference between an 18 year old looking like a 16 year old and an 18 year old pretending to be a 4 year old.

Yes, there's a whole genre about people pretending to be animals, just as there is one about people pretending to be children.

The basic idea of the story in question is that the man and woman are a GROWN 24/7 bdsm couple. He calls her from work and indicates to her that when he gets home, they are going to play "daddy/little girl." She dresses up in pig tails, dresses like she's about 13, and when he gets home they role play the idea of daddy and daughter being sexually attracted to each other.

Another interesting thing to note was that there was NO sex in this story (no genital contact whatsoever.) It was just about the erotic tension of the setting.

 

[bisexplicit]

Given that premise, I can't imagine why it was rejected.

I mean, there are plenty of stories where the couple is supposed to actually be father and daughter - and the daughter most certainly acts/dresses younger than her age.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

The basic idea of the story in question is that the man and woman are a GROWN 24/7 bdsm couple. He calls her from work and indicates to her that when he gets home, they are going to play "daddy/little girl." She dresses up in pig tails, dresses like she's about 13, and when he gets home they role play the idea of daddy and daughter being sexually attracted to each other.

I think it's that the ACTUAL age (13) is mentioned. Try removing that, and resubmit and see what happens?

 

[sirhugs]

this isn't Kansas anymore. Or maybe it is. It is a miracle Lit remains free when the bible belt thinks all sex is dirty. Pretending sex magically begins at 18 is part of the deal. If "Daddy" finds idea of 13 attractive, it is deemed promoting pedo, even if the gal is not really 13. That could get Lit shut down. Sad but true.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Well the whole point of age play is to pretend to be a younger age, so yes it was mentioned that she likes pretending to be a young girl of a certain age. The point is that it specifically says this is 20something year old girl pretending to act 13 and makes several references throughout the story that "she wasn't a really a child" "she didn't really have a child's body" etc.

If you can write stories about pony play and puppy play (even though true bestiality is illegal), why can't you write stories about age play?

To me its the same concept. There is absolutely nothing illegal about a grown woman dressing up in pigtails and calling a man "daddy".

Like I said, "if there is a *hint* of a child Lit will deny the story". It is their site and their rules. Frankly, I am glad to have found such a wonderful story site that is actually free to visit!

I've never ever heard of ponygirls (or boys) or human pets refered in any kind of "bestiality role play". Obviously, you don't know much about BDSM or the specific kinks of ponygirl/boy and human pets. I am quite sure that if someone tried to "hide" a bestiality story by exploiting either lifestyle Lit would deny them as well. (Or, if they had no idea it was being done, and someone reported such a story to Lit, they would delete the story off their site.)

 

[BedtimeStories77]

Thats what I just said. I said they allow stories of pony play and puppy play (which is PRETENDING to be an animal) even though TRUE bestiality is illegal.

Read up on the fetishes.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

Read up on the fetishes.

Actually, I'm quite familiar with both pony and puppy play, as is my dominant.

My point was that if you're allowed to role play being an animal, you should be allowed to role play being an adolescent.

I don't know where you got the impression that I was not familiar with these fetishes.

Furthermore, ageplay stories have been allowed on Lit in the past..this seems to be a new phenomenon.

I never implied that people were using pony and puppy play stories to disguise bestiality. I think you missed my point.

The ageplay story I'm discussing is not about disguising pedophilia. Its about a man being attracted to a grown woman who dresses/acts like a younger person, just as pony play stories are about people dressing up and acting like horses.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

My point was that if you're allowed to role play being an animal, you should be allowed to role play being an adolescent.

You don't go to prison for 10 years for having sex with a dog...
but for having sex with a 13 year old? :x

Therein lies the felt and cultural, if not entirely rational, difference...

as for them cracking down, have you been following the thread about the other story site that was shut down because it had age play stories on it?

Lit is a business, they want to stay in business... they have to bow to cultural (and legal) norms to do so...

this happens to be one of them... like I said, I think it would work if you simply took out the actual age reference... how important is it that the age be 13?

and there are things you can do in a story to HINT at the age you are playing, without having to say the actual age... a small, high voice, knee socks, sucking lollipops, you name it... which actually can be way more interesting than saying, "He liked her to pretend she was 13" you know???

 

[Epona's Chylde]

You don't go to prison for 10 years for having sex with a dog...
but for having sex with a 13 year old? :x

Therein lies the felt and cultural, if not entirely rational, difference...

as for them cracking down, have you been following the thread about the other story site that was shut down because it had age play stories on it?

Lit is a business, they want to stay in business... they have to bow to cultural (and legal) norms to do so...

this happens to be one of them... like I said, I think it would work if you simply took out the actual age reference... how important is it that the age be 13?

and there are things you can do in a story to HINT at the age you are playing, without having to say the actual age... a small, high voice, knee socks, sucking lollipops, you name it... which actually can be way more interesting than saying, "He liked her to pretend she was 13" you know???

Oh I agree with you and I passed the suggestion onto the story's author. I just find the concept that Lit is being so severe to be a bit disheartening, since the forum was created with the motto of "freedom of speech".

I didn't know there was another thread about ageplay stories going on..which forum is it on?

 

[BlackSnake]

No, it definately wasn't a pedo story.

There was a disclaimer at the top that this was a story about consenting adults role playing and then in the body of the story, it mentions her age as being in "her mid 20's" and makes it clear that this is a story about a bdsm couple who sometimes do a daddy/daughter role play on certain nights.

He submitted it twice and was rejected both times. He finally got an answer that basically said "we're not accepting age play stories, period." So they KNEW it was about adults...

I know stories of this nature have been published on this site before, so this left me a bit confused.

He had a volunteer editor check his story out and they couldn't find anything wrong with it!

What I notice is that a lot of authors here kill their stories with disclaimers. The only hints the readers should get is the title, category, and brief discription. Anything more than that is an introduction. IMO, intros should not be done for story stories.

Begin the story and show the reader what the story is about, dont tell them.

...Darla took the school girl custom from her drawer. It was a bit small for her, but it made her look like one of the overly developed high school girls. She slipped on white cotton panties under the too small plaid skirt. With her breast buldging out of the button-down top, she was ready for her role.

It may be just me, but I think that buy trying so hard not to step on anyone's toes you are making them suspicious.

And to re-iterate my same old notion, don't mention the age of the characters. The readers should be able to determine, or make up their minds the ages of the characters, if its important to them, by the context.

...long winded, I know.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

What I notice is that a lot of authors here kill their stories with disclaimers. The only hints the readers should get is the title, category, and brief discription. Anything more than that is an introduction. IMO, intros should not be done for story stories.

Begin the story and show the reader what the story is about, dont tell them.

...Darla took the school girl custom from her drawer. It was a bit small for her, but it made her look like one of the overly developed high school girls. She slipped on white cotton panties under the too small plaid skirt. With her breast buldging out of the button-down top, she was ready for her role.

It may be just me, but I think that buy trying so hard not to step on anyone's toes you are making them suspicious.

And to re-iterate my same old notion, don't mention the age of the characters. The readers should be able to determine, or make up their minds the ages of the characters, if its important to them, by the context.

...long winded, I know.

Thats a good idea...I hadn't thought of removing the disclaimer! I guess it makes sense in a way.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

I never implied that people were using pony and puppy play stories to disguise bestiality. I think you missed my point.

Your original statement seemed to imply it...

Thats what I just said. I said they allow stories of pony play and puppy play (which is PRETENDING to be an animal) even though TRUE bestiality is illegal.

And I'll restate that I've never, ever heard or seen people in those fetishes "sexually role playing as animals"...as in trying to ACT out bestiality scenes. Ponygirls/boys are usually dressed up as a horse, with saddle and all, and are often rided by their Dom/me. But I've never seen or heard of any sex act going on while "dressed up". But, I'm not hear to fight so it doesn't matter anymore.

As for the age play stories... It's possible that in the past some stories got past the Lit censors. It happens. Or maybe those stories didn't list the AGE the person planed to play. I do know that if someone is outright obvious concerning "minors" in any way, Lit doesn't allow it.

Again, their site. Their rules. Their choices. I'm thankful the site is free and as well maintained as it is.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Red Rose Story Thread



Here's the thread to the other discussion... I think there was a lot more illicit kind of stuff going on over there than goes on here... but it's one reason why it's so important for Lit to draw good, clear boundaries with their stories... so they DON'T get harassed and shut down... because that would be a real crime!

 

[BedtimeStories77]

...it's one reason why it's so important for Lit to draw good, clear boundaries with their stories... so they DON'T get harassed and shut down... because that would be a real crime!

That it would.

 

[Epona's Chylde]

nd I'll restate that I've never, ever heard or seen people in those fetishes "sexually role playing as animals"...as in trying to ACT out bestiality scenes. Ponygirls/boys are usually dressed up as a horse, with saddle and all, and are often rided by their Dom/me. But I've never seen or heard of any sex act going on while "dressed up". But, I'm not hear to fight so it doesn't matter anymore.

Well I most certanly have had sex while dressed as an animal and have known several other people who have also. You accuse me of not having much experience, and yet obviously you're the one with less experience.