age legality quesiton

zaxxon

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Here's a question... would it be legal to depict characters in a story who change bodies with each other? With one of the two being under 18? Do you know what I'm saying?
 
dunno about legalities or if it's acceptable to post here on lit, but i'd be interested in reading it...
 
zaxxon said:
Here's a question... would it be legal to depict characters in a story who change bodies with each other? With one of the two being under 18? Do you know what I'm saying?

You know, it's just terrible to make this kind of story. Here's why. Even if you can manipulate the characters into a "Legal" setting you're forgetting that the readers aren’t lawyers either. You would of course, as other authors do after being clever, state that all characters are over 18. The reader thinks great and goes into the story, but alas, nothing kills the mood more than when it comes to a screeching halt as you find yourself 3 paragraphs into the story where they've managed somehow to squeak through an underage scenario, via flashback or whatever. The reader doesn't know either. Is this legal or not. Not what one wants to be asking in the middle of a story. Not erotic at all! Big time mood killer. I usually hit delete right away. Just don't do it; do lovers of erotica a favor. That's just my two cents on how I feel about it. I really hate it. I for the life of me can't understand why it would be hard to stay in the youthful realm of legal age. I mean we're all pretty darn smooth and sexy up till 35 or so. No offense meant directly to you, my rant is more in general of the situation.
 
The US Supreme ruled a couple of years ago that you can produce, poccess & view Virtual Reality / Computer Animation involving sex between those under the age of 18 . So this would ( should ) apply to written text also .
 
Not here. Doesn't matter what any court says. Laurel and Manu make the rules here and they say over 18. Sorry.
 
Themmy said:
The US Supreme ruled a couple of years ago that you can produce, poccess & view Virtual Reality / Computer Animation involving sex between those under the age of 18 . So this would ( should ) apply to written text also .

Why does the characters need to be under 18. Think about it. When age is an issue in the story. Re-think it a bit. Does the character have to be under 18. Do you really have to state the age of the character. If you left it completely out would it matter?

I've read a few stories where it was clearly stated that the character of 18. It was like running into a brick wall. What in the hell is this wall doing here.

Older people talk about age, because they hate getting old. Younger people don't, because they don't want anyone to think they're a kid.

Flashback:
"When I was 12 years old."

Re-thinking the Flashback:
"When I was young."

I wouldn't want to hear about a 12 y/o, but I wouldn't be so quick to toss out the later.

Food for thought.
 
just to throw that in:

Recently, there was a scandal in a german school, when a group of teens where shootíng a porn movie. (according to a german newspaper)

A 15 year old girl was sitting naked on a couch between 4 guys. She was showing everything, even in closeup. Then, one after the other, the 4 guys where doing petting with her ... (I don't know if they also fucked her, the newspaper didn't mention anything about it) - and they taped it.

However, one of the guys put this movie on a website, so everyone was able to download it .... (no, I don't know the URL).

I think this could become a good story, but since the legal age at Lit is 18, it couldn't be posted.

But anyway .... when I am thinking back, how I was when I was 15 .... I behaved like a teenager, not like a porn star.
 
cloudy said:
Not here. Doesn't matter what any court says. Laurel and Manu make the rules here and they say over 18. Sorry.

Well they need to get busy deleting it, because there are a large number of stories on here that involve those under 18 .......
 
Themmy so long as you don't mention ages you can have sex in kindergarden, well OK, most likely you would have to just say school, they will accpet going to high school but you talk about going to middle school or grade school and having sex you won't get posted, it's possible to write about an underage person having sex so long as you don't make it very obvious.

Now about this underage body swapping idea, I'm not sure if you can post it here, but how about underage daughter swaps bodies with mom and then goes on to try out sex, but of course mom doesn't being now under age.

Of course you can always do it this way, no chance of not being posted assuming you can spell edit. Daughters 18th birthday, strange Uncle Hermann (always strange Uncle Hermann, not sure why it's not Dave or something) gives her this strange doll thingy, later that night after the party she's looking at it, shaking it so on then tosses it in the corner. A strange mist or sound comes out of the doll she starts screaming mom comes in and they switch bodies. Except they don't know it at first, so mom goes to bed with dad, they get frisky at which point daughter fully switches and then lets dad do her, for her first time. Of course next day mom tells dad and they sleep together, thereafter until they can reverse the whatever, but daughter now knowing what sex is like becomes a slut. OK, you can reverse and make it a son and dad switching, or son and mom or daughter and dad, it all depends on what you want to do.

No not doing it, sorry I have to many stories brewing as it is.
 
Originally posted by BlackSnake
Why does the characters need to be under 18. Think about it. When age is an issue in the story. Re-think it a bit. Does the character have to be under 18. Do you really have to state the age of the character. If you left it completely out would it matter?

Well, I had a story that had a senior in high school as the protagonist. The story was rejected because I didn't state what the character's name was. So, I added the age in subtly, and it got accepted.

So, until the character is in college, you *must* state what the age is for the moderators to accept it.
 
I disagree there Torg, read my stories, I'm not in college in those and they are in there, the only trick is not saying what school your in , if you say high school there has to be a 18 or 18th birthday reference in there, otherwise you run into problems. The people running the site have decided to not allow anything obviously underage.

But if you think about certain references, say to my story and the stairs, how many colleges have you seen put together like that? ;) Or even better, how many colleges are going to pull you out of class to go see the principal? Actually I'm not even sure a college has a principal. But my stories get in because the people in them are ageless, you can't tell what age they are, I know but I'm not going to say, since that would put an age to at least one and I don't think they would be happy with me ;)
 
I was wondering if (on literotica) if you have to mention ages. I'm currently working on a story where I had invisioned the girl to be about in her mid teens. To say the character is actually 18 instead of say... 15 or 16 isn't a problem. But I was wondering if I could just allude to the fact that she is a young teenager?

Also, what about characters that are under 18 but aren't involved in sex?

I've always found age to be an odd point to make the decision to either accept or reject a story. There are whole sections on here devoted to other illegal acts like rape, incest, and murder. Compared to those topics, a little consentual statutory rape seems pretty tame.

I guess most of this comes from the old saying, "write what you know." Well, i'm a 22 year old college guy, and one of the things I know about is being young. I have no freaking clue what it's like when a married couple gets in bed, aside from a few disurbing memories of my parent's bed squeeking on the floor above my room on sunday afternoon.

But, I do know what it's like to be at a party and getting all worked up over a girl, only to find out she's jailbait. And that's the main theme of most of my stories, internal conflict.

For me, there's not a lot of erotisim in a 30 year old man banging an 18 year old girl. That's something that he'd brag to his buddies about for years. But take that same guy, and make the girl a couple years younger, and you have a whole different story.

But then again, WTF do I know? :D
 
marshalt said:
I was wondering if (on literotica) if you have to mention ages. I'm currently working on a story where I had invisioned the girl to be about in her mid teens. To say the character is actually 18 instead of say... 15 or 16 isn't a problem. But I was wondering if I could just allude to the fact that she is a young teenager?

Also, what about characters that are under 18 but aren't involved in sex?

I've always found age to be an odd point to make the decision to either accept or reject a story. There are whole sections on here devoted to other illegal acts like rape, incest, and murder. Compared to those topics, a little consentual statutory rape seems pretty tame.

I guess most of this comes from the old saying, "write what you know." Well, i'm a 22 year old college guy, and one of the things I know about is being young. I have no freaking clue what it's like when a married couple gets in bed, aside from a few disurbing memories of my parent's bed squeeking on the floor above my room on sunday afternoon.

But, I do know what it's like to be at a party and getting all worked up over a girl, only to find out she's jailbait. And that's the main theme of most of my stories, internal conflict.

For me, there's not a lot of erotisim in a 30 year old man banging an 18 year old girl. That's something that he'd brag to his buddies about for years. But take that same guy, and make the girl a couple years younger, and you have a whole different story.

But then again, WTF do I know? :D

You could try, but I'm willing to bet it'd get rejected. Usually if there's any doubt at all, out it goes. I think that if you "alluded" to the fact that she was a young teenager, it would be rejected immediately. Laurel and Manu are fairly strict about that.
 
Yes alluding to it is out, but I guess you can say certain things that suggest her being young, without actually saying it, take for instance
"I don't have a drivers license"
"Still?"
"I don't have the money for a car and my parents don't either, so no point to it really, we only have one car."
What age does that suggest to you? You can be ageless and young at the same time, without having to worry about putting an age in.

Heck if you do it right you can suggest a girl as young as like 12, I can manage to make it sound like a 12 year old without suggesting it really, but I won't since I find the whole idea disgusting.
 
emap said:
Yes alluding to it is out, but I guess you can say certain things that suggest her being young, without actually saying it, take for instance
"I don't have a drivers license"
"Still?"
"I don't have the money for a car and my parents don't either, so no point to it really, we only have one car."
What age does that suggest to you? You can be ageless and young at the same time, without having to worry about putting an age in.

Heck if you do it right you can suggest a girl as young as like 12, I can manage to make it sound like a 12 year old without suggesting it really, but I won't since I find the whole idea disgusting.

Yeah, that's more of what meant, leaving it ambiguous.
 
marshalt said:
I was wondering if (on literotica) if you have to mention ages. I'm currently working on a story where I had invisioned the girl to be about in her mid teens. To say the character is actually 18 instead of say... 15 or 16 isn't a problem. But I was wondering if I could just allude to the fact that she is a young teenager?...
It can be a problem. I needed a character to be under 21 in one scene, so she went to jail instead of the electric chair. Then she had lots of experience in sex, drugs, etc, to get to the point of murdering someone and then there was the time to come to trial, so it meant she crammed an awful lot into just over a year, instead of starting at 15 like real life. I dumped the whole thing in the end.

marshalt said:
... Also, what about characters that are under 18 but aren't involved in sex? ...
One of my stories has a new-born baby girl in it, as a pivotal character, but no trace of paedophilia and they were OK with that. Another had a nine-year-old making suggestions ("Now you're rich you should get a butler.") which helped the story line and that was also OK, and you can guess what the butler got up to, because that story isn't on here any more.
 
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