Affairs, everyone's doing it...

[bulld]

Re: Whos personal life is it anyway!

Even if you are Demi Moore or Bruce Willis or even DCL!

You mean DCL isn't Bruce Willis, damn there goes my who is DCL post.

While being in the "public eye" brings a higher degree of scrutiny to ones life it should not mean that you have no right to privacy. Certain aspects of a persons life should be for their eyes and the eyes of their family and close friends only. Has anyone stopped to think what affect this "revelation" has had on his family?? Do the tabloids have the right to air his dirty laundry at the expense of his wife and children? I think not. Ok, the guy is a hipocrite and an liar but does that give anyone the right to injure someone else to smear his name? Nope! I think we all need to step back and think about some of the shitty things we ourselves have done and realize that none of us are totally without blame.

[Edited by bulld on 01-18-2001 at 07:15 PM]

 

[Madame Pandora]

Falls from Grace...

Maybe I am just an odd duck, but what strikes me about this story is the fact that this woman isn't some scorned, tossed aside woman struggling to bring up a child that came from a one-night stand. How many times have we seen men who knock up some girl and take off? From the news reports and articles that I've read, Jackson has taken responsibility for this, continuing to support both the woman and the child. And he continued his public life knowing full well it was only a matter of time. Certainly, he didn't practice what he preached, but he did the best he could. I don't know about anyone else, but I never expect anyone to do more than the best they could in facing their personal flaws.

Maybe it is naive, but I never look at a public figure in terms of hypocrisy or truth. To deify people just because they have a message and deliver it well doesn't jive to me. The problem with the general public (and in this, America tends to be more ridiculous than other places in the world) is that everything gets reduced to black and white, when life is gray all over. I have known many great people in my life, and they have all been flawed. And their flaws made their impression on my life no less profound.

It is so easy to sit back and be smug. Jessie Jackson had an affair...Thomas Jefferson slept with a slave...JFK was banging MM. How many of us, if put on the spot, could justify our actions if they were reduced to a single sentence? If it were just a yes or no question. It is in the explaining that life becomes clear that the truth comes to light. But you can't fit the truth into a headline or a punch line, so it often falls aside.

I don't think someone is a hypocrite for going against his or her beliefs. They are flawed. How many times in our lives have we all done something and thought, "I wish I hadn't done that?" I can't speak for everyone else, but I do it from time to time. You go on despite your mistakes and try to hold yourself up to the higher standards of your soul. If you dwell in your mistakes and live your life in fear they will be discovered, you are a prisoner of something much more severe than hypocrisy.

It is no small thing to speak out. It is no small thing to be a leader. Personally, I try to judge a person by their intentions. Naturally, these are things I cannot be sure of anymore than I can the details of celebrity life. But I think, despite the many times that I have disagreed with his stance, that Jessie Jackson has always had, if nothing else, the best of intentions. I have never seen him - even in outrage - speak from hate.

When asked about Clinton’s affair, Hillary replied in an interview, “There is so much good about this man. I stand by him because I see the good and forgive the bad.” Sure, it’s a politician’s line, but do we do less in our families? Doesn’t everyone have the one relative you love “in spite of” such and such? It is no less for people who are famous. It is no less for people who try to lead toward a higher standard.

There are people who enjoy it when a celebrity is destroyed. There are others who are disappointed and bereaved. Me...I just see another person who teetered on the edge of temptation and lost. It makes him no more or less good in my eyes. Just a human being. At least this one had a sense of duty to be responsible about it. I give him that credit, if that is, indeed accurately reported.

I am not saying I have never smiled when a celeb I didn't like took a fall. Sure...I see the irony too, and the humor isn't lost on me. But...I also see the humanity of it.

At the end of the day, all these people - politicians, leaders, supermodels, and movie stars are just doing what you and I do. They're trying to get through one day at a time and have a few more days of joy than of sadness. Some days you rise. Some days you fall. I just thank creation that when I fall it isn’t in front of a judgmental public.

MP

 

[Lady Macbeth]

Re: Re: Whos personal life is it anyway!

Even if you are Demi Moore or Bruce Willis or even DCL!

You mean DCL isn't Bruce Willis, damn there goes my who is DCL post.

While being in the "public eye" brings a higher degree of scrutiny to ones life it should not mean that you have no right to privacy. Certain aspects of a persons life should be for their eyes and the eyes of their family and close friends only. Has anyone stopped to think what affect this "revelation" has had on his family?? Do the tabloids have the right to air his dirty laundry at the expense of his wife and children? I think not. Ok, the guy is a hipacrit and an liar but does that give anyone the right to injure someone else to smear his name? Nope! I think we all need to step back and think about some of the shitty things we ourselves have done and realize that none of us are totally without blame.

Well put Bull. A man after my own heart!

 

[Dillinger]

Amen to you too, Madame Pandora...

 

[jcgirl]

Im currently having an affair with my computer...

 

[Laurel]

Re: Lady Macbeth

Ok, but these people have grown up in this society just like you and me and know that once they become a "public figure" their lives are just that, public. What am I trying to say?

Bill didn't have to run for president. Should have been a carpet layer, there is more privacy.

Really? So, if a politician has affairs, they shouldn't be in politics?

Then I guess these 'fine Republicans' who are also adulterers should also be scorned:

Henry Hyde
Newt Gingrich
Bob Dole
Ronald Reagan
Bill McCartney (founder of Promise Keepers)
Bob Barr
Strom Thurmond
Bob Packwood
...and more at
http://www.jeffberry.com/cheating.html

And Rush Limbaugh, who cheated on two of his three wives, doesn't deserve anything but our ridicule, right?

Oh, but that's DIFFERENT, isn't it? When GWB lies about a criminal conviction, that's "his personal business". When Clinton lies about a blowjob, he's a pariah.

That's the definition of hypocrisy. If you can't see that, then you need to put away your Republican Party press releases and think about it rationally.

 

[Thumper]

A revelation..maybe..

and you can thank that demon alcohol...hey why else would I sell my shit eh?

I have had over 16 affairs(?) since I was married...I still am married...why?

Maybe it is because she looked at me and saw something worth salvaging...I can't say for sure...we are still working on it..can't make any promises though...

If she who is most wronged can forgive me then who is anyone else to say.

I don't remember Jesse ever condemning Bakker or Swaggart...even the most righteous among us fall short of perfection...I would call him a hypocrite if he denied the child and condemned others for their indiscretions.

Picture George Bush whacking off in the Oval Office bathroom. Not pretty is it...but I'll bet he will do it LOL

We are all human and that makes us more alike than different...humbling idea I think.