Actual Voter Fraud Proven in Ohio?

[amicus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2onRgtgXkc

Heard this on Fox News today, took a little research but there is the crux of the matter...

Student from England, visiting in Ohio, registered and voted, along with an alleged 11,000 other voters.

Tempest in a Teapot, or is this thing going to blow sky high and involve the election and with events in Ohio, perhaps the Supreme Court?

Amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

I've been predicting it.

The Usual Suspects have been fed a line of shit that Obama's coronation is certain, and they believe it. If it doesnt happen there will be trouble.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Let's see. As I heard the commentary twelve votes were illegal. Tempest in a teapot and 12 young wise acres shooting themselves in the foot. Four letter word meaning impulsive . . . DUMB!

 

[amicus]

Mebbee so, VM, but the Ohio incident, involving the secretary of state and the attorney general and a petition to the supreme court tells me that sumpin is perkin somewhere...

we shall see...

amicus...

 

[xssve]

Well of course it will blow sky high, how else will republicans get away with whatever voter fraud they employ this time?

It's getting tougher, what with people going back to paper ballots and Diebold out of the picture - mostly.

 

[DesertPirate]

Well of course it will blow sky high, how else will republicans get away with whatever voter fraud they employ this time?

It's getting tougher, what with people going back to paper ballots and Diebold out of the picture - mostly.

Like they did with all those "Honest" elections in Chicago?
The Daley Democrat machine where the dead voters are as plentiful as the living?

 

[xssve]

Hollow.

 

[amicus]

It would seem to me...rather than blantant partisanship, one might consider that voter fraud, in an objective sense, should be of concern to all.

Here...you are presented with an example.

Amicus

 

[Belegon]

It would seem to me...rather than blantant partisanship, one might consider that voter fraud, in an objective sense, should be of concern to all.

Here...you are presented with an example.

Amicus

So, this is a thread about Florida in 2000 or is it about Ohio in 2004?

Give me a fucking break. Desperation is what I'm hearing.

 

[amicus]

The investigation of ACORN in Nevada was called for by a Democrat...

ami

 

[Belegon]

The investigation of ACORN in Nevada was called for by a Democrat...

ami

Because ACORN's issues had nothing to do with either party... until the straw got grasped at...

 

[ottohauser1977]

Until you've lived under a one-party state, you can't begin to understand real campaign violations. Trust me, this stuff is tame, no matter which party does it.

 

[Liar]

I'm guessing thayt if Ohio is desicive (not very likely) and it comes down to a margin of less than a hundred votes, those young punks' misguided inventiveness will matter.

I give that a probablility rating of 0,000 002%. And I'm being generous there.

Otherwise, nah.

 

[Guest]

Until you've lived under a one-party state, you can't begin to understand real campaign violations. Trust me, this stuff is tame, no matter which party does it.

Otto - first, welcome to the AH.

Secondly, on how many threads are you going to post the same damn thing?

Yes, we get it. No one had it as bad as you, no one has it as bad as you. The U.S. is filled with silly people arguing about silly things. Certainly not as important as you and your history and your country.

Thirdly - you're certainly welcome to contribute more than just a complaint.

 

[Guest]

I'm guessing thayt if Ohio is desicive (not very likely) and it comes down to a margin of less than a hundred votes, those young punks' misguided inventiveness will matter.

I give that a probablility rating of 0,000 002%. And I'm being generous there.

Otherwise, nah.

I imagine we'll hear about it for years, though.

 

[Liar]

Because ACORN's issues had nothing to do with either party... until the straw got grasped at...

Now, I'm not that into the issue, but isn't ACORN actually a victim of fraud and not a perp?

ACORN paid contractors to recruit new voters for registration.
And they paid them per successful registration.
And the contractors put up fake names.
And the contractors collected money from ACORN.
And ACORN is thusly scammed.

What am I missing?

Factual, non biased replies would be nice. No crackpot conspiracies, please.

"ACORN supported this! They are evil commies who wants to destroy whitey!" calls for evidence. "It's evil racist republicans that infiltrated ACORN to bring it down and stop blacks from voting!" calls for evidence too.

Come on, I'm waiting...

 

[epiphany65]

It's looks like you'll have to blame those damn activist judges on the Supreme court over this one, Amicus.

 

[Safe_Bet]

So, this is a thread about Florida in 2000 or is it about Ohio in 2004?

Give me a fucking break. Desperation is what I'm hearing.

Is that what you're hearing? I'm hearing the theme to 'The Twilight Zone' for god sakes!

 

[Edward Teach]

If there is anything to it, the Justice Department should be all over it, just like they should have been in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.

Anybody, anybody who commits voter fraud, whether it's one vote or one million, should be prosecuted. It should be considered as serious as a terrorist attack.

National elections need national standards monitored by an independent group, like maybe the Carter Center who monitors elections all over the world, and all irregularities should be reported and investigated by Justice.

And, yes, there is a possibility this election will be stolen. The thing that may prevent it is that many of the Con powers, like Bill Kristol, don't really want McCain to win, preferring to reload with a viable candidate in 2008.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

It's looks like you'll have to blame those damn activist judges on the Supreme court over this one, Amicus.

Yep. Supreme Court sided with the Secretary of State.

 

[ottohauser1977]

Otto - first, welcome to the AH.

Secondly, on how many threads are you going to post the same damn thing?

Yes, we get it. No one had it as bad as you, no one has it as bad as you. The U.S. is filled with silly people arguing about silly things. Certainly not as important as you and your history and your country.

Thirdly - you're certainly welcome to contribute more than just a complaint.

My point was to make a comparison to give the posters here some perspective. That's all. Not to attack Americans, since I am one now. Just trying to demonstrate that you're merely speaking of corruption, not of tyranny.

 

[past_perfect]

My point was to make a comparison to give the posters here some perspective. That's all. Not to attack Americans, since I am one now. Just trying to demonstrate that you're merely speaking of corruption, not of tyranny.

Excuse the indiscreet question, but is 1977 your year of birth?

Ignore the question, just saw your answer in another thread.

 

[Weird Harold]

Now, I'm not that into the issue, but isn't ACORN actually a victim of fraud and not a perp?

ACORN paid contractors to recruit new voters for registration.
And they paid them per successful registration.
And the contractors put up fake names.
And the contractors collected money from ACORN.
And ACORN is thusly scammed.

What am I missing?

I think what you're missing is that ACORN is not the only only "grass-roots voter registration" group but it is apparently the only one with investigations and lawsuits and proven cases of registration fraud.

ACORN isn't really the only voter registration group that engages in or is victimized by Fraud, but it does seem to be the only one that repeatedly survives such scandals and then manages to get federal funding on top of surviving.

If nothing else, ACORN seems to be very inept at protecting itself from being repeatedly scammed by dishonest contractors, yet other voting registriatin organizations don't seem to have much trouble policing their own houses.

 

[Belegon]

Until you've lived under a one-party state, you can't begin to understand real campaign violations. Trust me, this stuff is tame, no matter which party does it.

With all due respect to your past experiences, that is all the more reason to pursue things with intensity. Aim small, miss small. Put out the little fires before they become big... etc.

Welcome to the AH, otto.