Active Help to die

[Xander]

Your views people.

When a loved one, or yourself are at the point of no return. Nothing can be done to ease your pain. You'll die within max. 3 months one way or the other.
You know, keeping you alive is pointless. And a financial strain on those you love.
Your mind has stopped functioning. and you're helplessly bound to a bed.

I know in my case, I'd sure hope someone would turn off the machines. And stop it right there.

But what is your views???

About yourself, and if it happened to a loved one.

 

[CreamyLady]

Xander, you have mail.

 

[April]

Hubby and I have talked about this, and we agree to disagree.

If I were terminally ill, and only had a limited amount of time left, and the quality of my life pretty much was nonexistant, I would want to die. And would probably try to die.

What is the point of living when it just hurts too much, and there is no pleasure anymore? When all it is is just unending pain? No, I don't want that.

I cheer Kevorkian! I think it should be everyone's right to choose whether or not to end their own suffering! I'd rather do it quietly in my own home than be forced to take the car out and wrap it around the nearest tree or drive off the nearest cliff.

 

[Todd]

As much as it will tear me apart to do so I promised my mother when/if that situation arised I would pull the plug for her

 

[jcgirl]

Omg. Two threads in a row. I need a nap.

 

[TN_Vixen]

morally

I think it is wrong (biblically) to choose to end your own life. The way I see it is life is a gift and one you have no right to throw away.

throwing morality out the window I say, LET ME DIE and let me choose.

I watched my beloved Granny waste away of pancreatic cancer. A strong, healthy, loving pillar of a woman down to skin and bones, having to be carried from the bed to urinate. I was consumed with searing painful stabbing sorrow to watch her this way and eventually couldn't even bring myself to come around to comfort... maybe a huge failing on my part.. but had she asked me to help her end it - I would've in a flash.

I would want my loved ones to be strong enough to do the same for me if I ever have to make the same request.

 

[insideShiraz]

Oops, wait...

Iz this the "Commercials I hate" thread?

 

[Ravenloft]

A night for serious issues... *Ahhh!*

 

[TN_Vixen]

yeah well Raven

too bad you can't debate them with intellect.

 

[insideShiraz]

But seriously...

I think I've brought this up before...
I watched a Special on Doctor Kevorkian, whom I had always thought was doing a good thing. People argued through the whole thing For and Against. Then his attorney was given a walk through a gallery of the Good Doctors oil paintings...and he couldn't even give a believable response for a Lawyer...These were the most morose and (for a lack of a better word) Evil things imaganible...I don't feel the same about the Good Doctor anymore...He may just be the most ingenious Serial killer of our time...In the forests, sick animals just die...What I think is wrong is that Medical facilties keep patients alive basically for monetary value...

 

[Iris]

I leave for 2 hours to take a bath and down some cold medicine and all hell busts loose. Anyway....

For example: your loved more than anything else in the entire world cat/dog/iguana/bird whatever is hit by a car. Its internal organs are smashed to bits and its spinal cord is severed but its still alive. You rush it to the vet and he tells you this. There is no way to save the pet. Remember, this animal has been with you for years, through thick and through thin. What do you do? Do you want to see this creature you love die a slow and unpleasant death while you keep it on morphine or do you want it to die peacefully with no more pain than its already had? You put it to sleep, right?

Humans are animals. If I were dying I would think my loved ones would feel similarly if I weren't in a position to make the decision and shut the machines off. If I were coherent and rational since assisted suicide is illegal, I fully believe I would take the matter into my own hands.

 

[Angel]

Quite honestly..

Hopefully I will die quietly in my sleep.
If not I hope to die BEFORE I lose all sense of what is going on around me.

I do not wish to spend the last days of my life in diapers, unable to feed myself and in a confused haze of reality. I saw both of my grandfathers go through that. And I dont want that for me. I want to die remembering my life.

I hope to hell someone lets me go when I say I want to go, and if not I WILL do it myself.

 

[insideShiraz]

Wut would Calvin and Hobbes do?...

Wagon Ride down the Steepest Hill@#$%!

 

[Ravenloft]

Gee TN that was such a scathing coment. Right up there with "Fuck you" and shit... Still don't want you as a fan...

 

[Siren]

OK Ravenloft and Vixon...you two kiss and make up

 

[LAVA GODDESSS]

I'm confused and so is TN

TN you said... I think it is wrong (biblically) to choose to end your own life. The way I see it is life is a gift and one you have no right to throw away


And it is ok to do it to someone else? someone who can't even speak for themselves? TSK TSK, sort of selfish now aren't we?

In relation to this all. I wash my hands of this....

Just tellin ya TN that you contradict yourself. LIFE IS A GIFT. I agree.

AND ONE YOU HAVE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT TO THROW AWAY

A-MEN sista...I agree with you, but are you agreeing with yourself?

 

[Budman]

Make your wishes known to your relatives. Get a Living Will, record it. My Mom did, and it was hard for me to tell the Doc "no Chemo. she didn't want that", but I did. If not for the living will, they would have dehumanized her, IMHO. I loved her dearly, but i went with her wishes, despite the pain it caused me. BTW, she died in my home, with my late wife holding her hand.

 

[Pyper]

Down with the Bible!

*preparing herself to get flamed*

Okay, we all know this "you can't end your own life, it is a gift" thing stems from the Bible. It's one of the main paradoxes of Christianity that keeps that religion intact.

1. Heaven is wonderful. It is the best place ever, but the only way to get there is to die.
2. Logically, people should be killing themselves right and left to get to heaven if it weren't for...
3. God says don't kill yourself or you won't get to heaven.

Wow, what a great Catch-22. I myself don't have any obligations toward big males in the sky, so if there was no hope for me, I'd dial up Kevorkian in a heartbeat.

 

[Siren]

Okay I am jumping in....

 

[Budman]

WHAT SIREN SAID !!! She and I bumped heads on another thread long ago, but on this I MUST agree with her. A Living Will should be a part of everyones paperwork. It's not expensive, and it lets your wishes be known, clearly, no doubt, no questions. And BTW, if one of your loved ones has a Living Will, follow their wishes. It was difficult for me when my Mom passed, it was difficult for me when my wife passed. But I had the satisfaction of knowing that I had followed their wishes.

 

[cheekyminx]

I agree with Siren. I watched my fiance die from stomach cancer. It was the hardest thing to do. To see him go from a healthy, happy man to a skeleton, whos beautiful blue eyes were filled with pain, who wouldnt talk or communicate, who had to ware a nappy, who had to be fed by a spoon like a baby, but then was fed intravenously nearly killed me. I vowed then that I would not put anyone through this.
2 years ago, I found out that I had cancer. I told everyone then and there that if I couldnt beat it, I wanted to die with dignity.
Luckily for me I beat the cancer. The heart still jumps up into my mouth when I go for a yearly check up though. But my thoughts on dying with dignity hasnt changed.
My father has Parkinsons Disease. He too wants to die with dignity. He sees it as his right because he has to live through it. My mother doesnt believe in it. My father has already given me power of attourney, and made me promise that if he lost his bodily functions, couldnt communicate anymore, and he was on life support, that I would turn off the machine. He has put that into his will.
It will be hard if I have to do it, but I will do it because to be alive needs more than a beating heart.

[Edited by cheekyminx on 02-27-2001 at 07:24 PM]

 

[teresafannin]

I have already started the paperwork for a living will, I want a do not rescusitate order if there ever comes a time when I am not able to do things for myself. I will not put anyone through what we went through with my grandmother. I want the little bit of money I have to go to my niece, not to be spent on doctors & nursing homes. I am not afraid to die, I will be with Justin again & that is what matters.

 

[Starfish]

Xander, Is there a personal reason for starting this thread. Gosh, I hope not! If so, gee, my heart goes out to you. Sorry I missed your IM last night, I was sucked into a site I found...OH, and yes I am an insomniac, but I slept all day today!!! Hope everything is ok, dear.

 

[insideShiraz]

I had a friend...

who couldn't stop shaking without a drink in the morning, and one day beside a swimming pool, we saw for the first time, his legs bloated...

I heard through the grapevine that they found him dead somewhere...

He was one of the funniest guys I ever met, and had a fastball like Bob Gibson, but ended up dead...wut's your point? Jesus died, too...

 

[Xander]

Xander, Is there a personal reason for starting this thread. Gosh, I hope not! If so, gee, my heart goes out to you. Sorry I missed your IM last night, I was sucked into a site I found...OH, and yes I am an insomniac, but I slept all day today!!! Hope everything is ok, dear.

Yes everything is fine GR. It's not out of personal reasons I've posted this thread. Though I do have past experiences with it.
I just thought it would be a nice little thought provoking thread.