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TN_Vixen

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Ladies, for the first time in my life my pap smear has come back "mild for dysplasia" which is worse in degree than "atypical". My gyno said for me "not to worry" but how can I NOT worry? I have to go in and have a microscope look-see and then possibly a biopsy if the cells continue to appear abnormal under the scope.

Anyone else have this problem? What can I expect?
 
Mine always come back abnormal the first time, then I go back in for another and they run a second more involved one and it comes back fine.
 
Julia

it's not just abnormal, though. The doc said that it is more severe than a simple abnormal reading. That's what has me worried.
 
TN Vixen....

I don't know....but...try not to dwell on it! Our minds can really do a number on us when we imagine the worst! When is your next appointment? I've had abnormal and then go in and it's fine but...I don't know what to tell you for yours except try to take his advice and don't fret too much!

(((((((((TN_Vixen)))))))))))
 
These may help sweetie. If not lots of thoughts and hugs from Muffinland will at least make you warmer inside, I hope.

http://www.gynalternatives.com/cervical.htm

http://www.healthyideas.com/healing/oncall/990518.nat2.html

http://www.wdxcyber.com/npapvg08.htm

http://www.doctorpage.com/findit/Diseases_and_Conditions/Cervical_Dysplasia/

There are probably alot more links out there, like at the mayo clinic or something. Information helps me put things into perspective, and reduces my fears. My imagination can outstrip anything reality can through at me. I don't know if info works for you. If knowing scares you more than not knowing, then don't go look.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
 
thanks forget and KM

KM.. sometimes knowing is a double-edged sword, but mostly it helps me to put things into perspective. My doc told me not to get all riled up about it, but doctors don't know everything do they?

I appreciate the kind words and thoughts.
 
Got any family history?

My mother-in-law has - nasty. She decided to lop them off at 40. Looks good too. She wasn't taking any chances. It is an option.

Not that you need any enhancement mind you - just health concerns.
 
Re: Got any family history?

Sparky Kronkite said:
My mother-in-law has - nasty. She decided to lop them off at 40. Looks good too. She wasn't taking any chances. It is an option.

Not that you need any enhancement mind you - just health concerns.

Hey Sparky wrong part of the body. Ask shebabe what a papsmear is, it has nothing to do with the breasts.
 
I guess that's why.....

this is a "for women" thread. I always thought papsmear was for breast cancer.
 
Re: I guess that's why.....

Sparky Kronkite said:
this is a "for women" thread. I always thought papsmear was for breast cancer.

And I thought it was a jelly.
 
Vixen I just found this at iVillage


Abnormal Pap, Normal Follow-Up
by Kelly Shanahan, MD
Q.A while ago, I had a Pap test that showed precancerous cells. I did not find this out until six months after my exam because I had left town. When I came back and heard this, I had another Pap done, and this time the results were normal. How could this have happened? Did my body heal itself? Or was it possible that there was a mistake the first time? If so, how often does that happen? Or could the second test be mistaken?
C.

A.There are several classes of abnormalities on Pap smears: atypical cells of undetermined significance; low-grade lesions (mild dysplasia); and high-grade lesions (moderate or severe dysplasia). Almost 60 percent of the time, mild dysplasia will return to normal even without treatment. Moderate dysplasia reverts to normal about 40 percent of the time, but severe dysplasia only occasionally gets better without intervention.
 
A pap smear is when the gyno (damned weirdos) take this umbrella like object that used to be ice cold metal but is now ice cold clear plastic, smear it with KY, then pry your legs apart and put them in the stirrups for the fifth time. The gyno then takes this speculum and inserts into the vagina while mumbling something along the lines of "Hmmmm that's interesting." What, is he reading the fucking stock reports??? What??? Then they work the lever and pop, the speculum spreads open wide, forcing the walls of the vagina and vulva open. After glaring at you for screaming like a girl, he uses the Qtips from hell and scrapes cells from inside, particularly around the cervix and puts them in a special petrie dish for later study. Then he mutters something else you can't understand and pops the thing shut and hauls it out.

What I want to know is why in the hell do they have pictures of Don Johnson on the ceiling? I hate the man now. It's not his fault, but oh my fucking gawd, you just gotta hate anyone who witnesses this procedure and isn't a medical professional.
 
No Don Johnson at my gyno its that Pablo Picasso painting ya know the one that was in Titanic oh whats it called "Water Lillies" I think
 
TN_Vixen, I just had a biopsy done for abnormal lesions found during my papsmear. They ran the biopsies, they came back negative. My doc informed me that many times the lesions are negative, but they do the biopsies for safety sakes...My prayers are with you hon. Np gynological exam is fun, and surgery most certainly isn't, but hang in there. I wish you the best of luck!
 
Thanks

Julia, NH, Ksss and all. He kept stressing that it wasn't anything for me to be worried over, but the last time the doctor said that to me I was pregnant for the first time and the Doc told me that at 10 weeks it was sometimes normal to not be able to hear the heartbeat, don't worryyyyy, he said. Well, I miscarried. So, I find it very hard to sit still and not worry when the doctor tells me to.

And, where are y'all getting pictures on the wall? There are no pics on the wall at my obgyn.

I hate "stirrup" days- most especially because my uterus is tilted and he has to really work and angle that damn speculum in order to get to my cervix.

mmmmm... nice. Friday is the day.
 
TN, I'm not going to offer advice because I have never been in the spot you are now.

I wanted to say good luck to you, you are in my thoughts.

Please keep us informed on how you go. I'm sorry that you have to go through all this, but know that all of us here are thinking of you.

Good Luck, I hope all goes well :)
 
Thank you Nicole

It is nice to have such a wonderful support group here at the BB. It has certainly made me feel better about facing it come Friday. *smile*

Sparks, now c'mon son. Get your tits and ass straight! hehe
 
I just recently went through something similar.

My periods have always been extremely irregular - most recently, I had missed 10 months in a row, then bled for 3 weeks before I finally got my ass to a gyno. (now I'm on birth control to regulate that) Anyhoo, so I had my first pap test at the age of 22, and it came back showing low-grade, pre-cancerous cells. Scary, considering... So I had to have another one and wait 6 weeks for the results of the second test, which I finally got last week - normal, yay!

The doctor told me it often corrects itself, but if it had still been abnormal, I might have required a simple laser surgery that could be done right in the gyno's office - trim off a little piece of the cervix, I think? He assured me it would be no big deal. Whatever.

Good luck, TN. Hope everything's ok with you. Try really hard not to think about it too much, k? *hugs*
 
Ah, a subject I experience with! lol

Five years ago or so, I had a pap come back abnormal enough for them to want a recheck. They took me in and looked at the surface of my cervix with some sort of scope and found some irregular tissue, which they biopsied (which was loads of fun, as there's no way to fully anesthetise the cervix short of a spinal block). It wasn't positively cancerous tissue, but it wasn't healthy either. I underwent cryotherapy, in which they use liquid nitrogen to freeze the "bad" tissue, causing it to die. The procedure wasn't painful per se - when they hit my cervix with the nitrogen, it felt like cramping. Afterwards, I experienced more cramping plus a watery discharge (the dead cells).

A year and a half later, yet another pap came back bad. There was a 35% chance that the tissue was malignant. This time, a LEEP procedure was recommended to me - a heated electric wire is used to remove the offending tissue. The hot wire simultaneously cauterizes the wound, so I experienced no immediate bleeding, and it was actually LESS painful than the LEEP (though the smell of your own flesh burning is a bit disconcerting). They removed about an inch of my cervix - I can literally feel the difference when I probe, they took so much.

So that's where I am right now. I have a pap next week, and we leave on vacation a week after that so I won't get the results back till after the trip.

Funny thing is, when I was going through the LEEP stuff, there were two other women (out of the 5 in my office) who'd had a LEEP procedure done. Apparently, my abnormality isn't all that unusual. So hang tough there, lil camper. It's more than likely nothing unusual or life-threatening. :)
 
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