a "widely" read rejected text

[Senna Jawa]

I tried to post fiction about 3-5 times. each time it was rejected. The last one was "A chess story" (no, I didn't try to post "A musical experience"). My chess story is rejected but it still has scored 40 reads. I would understand four, but forty?!

 

[perks]

what was the reason they gave you for rejectiong your story?

 

[Senna Jawa]

what was the reason they gave you for rejectiong your story?

They don't give a specific reason for the given case but a bunch of possible reasons. I am guessing that my texts were too short, but who knows. I am not curious.

If you read Literotica texts you will find some with horrible, multiple misspellings, densely spread over the entire text. You can find gross grammatical errors. You can find confusion, like inconsistent change from "I" to "he" back and force, without making any sense, just pure sloppiness. Not to mention obvious things like routine, boring, trite pornanatomy etc. So, it is not a question of literary level. Such a consideration does not exist at Literotica, be it prose or poetry.

 

[perks]

mine were short too... But they do have one page stories.

Is it that you didn't make paragraphs? That's what my problem was. As soon I changed that, they were accepted.

You might try it.


And you're right, this site isn't about literary genius, even if there are moments of it.

I often wonder why you feel the need to verbosely break down the spirit of comaraderie and learning that some of us have built here, and then I remember how completely narcissistic you are, and move on.

Good luck with your work.

 

[eagleyez]

mine were short too... But they have one page story.

Is it that you didn't make paragraphs? That's what my problem was. As soon I changed that, they were accepted.

You might try it.


And you're right, this site isn't about literary genius, even if there are moments of it.

I often wonder why you feel the need to verbosely break down the spirit of comaraderie and learning that some of us have built here, and then I remember how completely narcissistic you are, and move on.

Good luck with your work.

um

highly insecure perhaps

poor old crow

 

[Icingsugar]

To my knowledge there are only a few rules, the most common resons for rejection being:

* Submitted in an unreadable file format.

* Too short, 700 words or something like that minimum.

* Content not allowed. (beastiality, underage sex, some other no-no's)

Any of those apply? Your chess story cartainly passes for ok content, and with working formatting too. Too short perhaps? There's a FAQ somewhere that covers this, I think.

 

[perks]

To my knowledge there are only a few rules, the most common resons for rejection being:

* Submitted in an unreadable file format.

* Too short, 700 words or something like that minimum.

* Content not allowed. (beastiality, underage sex, some other no-no's)

Any of those apply? Your chess story cartainly passes for ok content, and with working formatting too. Too short perhaps? There's a FAQ somewhere that covers this, I think.

7 year old strip chess... that bastard.

 

[Guest]

7 year old strip chess... that bastard.

*Green tea nose-snort.*

 

[Senna Jawa]

I often wonder why you feel the need to verbosely break down the spirit of comaraderie and learning that some of us have built here, [...]

Well, first note that you are attacking me without any provocation on my part, in no relation to this thread.

Your accusations are not true. The mechanisms which govern the behavior of our board would take some explaining, examples, ... I don't think that anybody here would have patience for such a social study. You could easily find many examples of unscrupulous rudeness against me, as crude as it takes, as well as mean personal attacks thinly disguised by their pseudo-cultural phrasing. I don't do such things. People sometimes put words in my mouth, believing what they say, but it's only their insecurity. Etc. There is also the issue of good will, of following the logical thread of the discussion, of reading comprehension. I can give an example from a recent thread in which I said nothing personal but I was misinterpreted anyway, and jumped on, and "summarized" by bystanders (which again is wrong). Again, I don't think that you have patience for straightning it, I don't even know if you are sufficiently open minded for it, may be, may be not. Why, even when Rybka feels that he has to say something positive about my poetry he must smear my name each time, again without any relation to the thread. This board is insensitive to this kind of injustices. The double standard is rampant. This board acts in a misplaced selfinterest.

I believe in friendship, but not in phony relations, in phony praising, etc.

[...] then I remember how completely narcissistic you are, and move on.

Here you are attacking me personally again. And again, check this board and you will see that I am the least narcissistic among the regulars.

Well, I am not going to comment on you in the style you did to me. Stay in peace.

 

[KillerMuffin]

They don't give a specific reason for the given case but a bunch of possible reasons. I am guessing that my texts were too short, but who knows. I am not curious.

Actually, those are specific reasons and there are always reasons. The scripts that run the back end of Lit do not allow for a non-reasoned rejection. If your text does not equal 750 words by Word, it's rejected.



This counts the number of times your story was viewed. There have also been some problems with multiple views being registered with administrator accounts. This is being worked on at the moment.

 

[perks]

Well, first note that you are attacking me without any provocation on my part, in no relation to this thread.

Your accusations are not true. The mechanisms which govern the behavior of our board would take some explaining, examples, ... I don't think that anybody here would have patience for such a social study. You could easily find many examples of unscrupulous rudeness against me, as crude as it takes, as well as mean personal attacks thinly disguised by their pseudo-cultural phrasing. I don't do such things. People sometimes put words in my mouth, believing what they say, but it's only their insecurity. Etc. There is also the issue of good will, of following the logical thread of the discussion, of reading comprehension. I can give an example from a recent thread in which I said nothing personal but I was misinterpreted anyway, and jumped on, and "summirized" by bystanders (which again is wrong). Again, I don't think that you have patience for straightning it, I don't even know if you are sufficiently open minded for it, may be, may be not. Why, even when Rybka feels that he has to say something positive about my poetry he must smear my name each time, again without any relation to the thread. This board is insensitive to this kind of injustices. It acts in a misplaced selfinterest.

I believe in friendship, but not in phony relations, in phony praising, etc. Here you are attacking me personally again. And again, check this board and you will see that I am the least narcissistic among the regulars.

Well, I am not going to comment on you in the style you did to me. Stay in peace.

You don't think that "I have the patience for straightning it" and you don't think that I am "sufficiently open minded for it", clarified with a maybe? And you are really shocked that I called you out for the reality in which you interact with people? I think you're lonely and long for interaction.
Do you start all your "friendships, non phony relationships" with such polite conversation?
I'm not fooled by your high handed tactics, or literate meanderings. I'd rather an illiterate rhyming bastard as a friend, than someone as judgemental and full of themselves as you. As far as me "straightning it",I believe the clarity of this post should straighten any doubt you've had of the sincerity of my loathing of you and your type.

ever peaceful~

 

[Senna Jawa]

Originally posted by perks And you are really shocked that I called you out for the reality in which you interact with people?

I am not shocked. I am used to such unprovocated attacks. I just shared a curiosity (40 reads for a rejected text). To you that was enough of a pretext for what you did. Oh, well, it is your problem, I'll leave it at that.

Do you start all your "friendships, non phony relationships" with such polite conversation?

I only mentioned that there were 40 reads under a rejected text. That's all. The other stuff was started by you, not by me.

I believe the clarity of this post should straighten any doubt you've had of the sincerity of my loathing of you and your type.

ever peaceful~

Peaceful indeed.

I never had a reason to stop even for a second to have any "doubts" or "thoughts" one way or another--I didn't know (wouldn't dream ) that you have such strong emotions here; why, there are so many constructive things to do rather than to dwell on the Literotica social mishaps; possibly I undercommunicate since I am sceptic about a chance for a mutual understanding, and this indeed you have clarified for me.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Actually, those are specific reasons and there are always reasons. The scripts that run the back end of Lit do not allow for a non-reasoned rejection. If your text does not equal 750 words by Word, it's rejected.

Of course. It's just software, a typical software shortcoming common in the software world. The same "feedback" page is given regardless of the situation. The computer program knows what it does but it does not inform the user about its findings, it just gives a criptic message like (symbolically speaking) "incorrect input" without sharing the info about the way in which the input was incorrect.

 

[champagne1982]

Not being an editor here I can't confirm the precise reason your text was rejected but I suspect that the prose in question is too short. Read the Submission Guidelines

 

[The_Fool]

Senna,

Your word count was about 590 including title. Rules state it has to be at least 750 words.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Senna,

Your word count was about 590 including title. Rules state it has to be at least 750 words.

Thank you. That's about 160 words below the limit. Actually I had also "footnotes", which to the program perhaps were no different than the regular text. Either they were not extensive enough or there was a human intervention (I have added the footnotes after the initial rejection, and the text was rejected again). As in the earlier cases, I am not going to append any pornanatomy or whatever to my stories to make them pass through the Literotica accepting program. Sure, I can write about clitoris and nipples getting hard when exposed to the cold air and/or hot fingers or toes, about the pre and postorgasmic juices flowing freely from the excited babes... yawn.

Literotica would reject the 95% of the incredible, great-great Isaac Babel's writings!!!   And a big part of Guy de Maupassant, I think.

Hm, they were masters of short story, and their life was cut short too.

BTW, the number of reads went up to 41. Why do they come back to it? (and after several days)?

 

[champagne1982]

Every time you click on the submission that is also counted as a view. Did you do it maybe? The views are not updated in real time either, the counting script does it on some kind of mysterious schedule. Hope that helps.

 

[perks]

I am not shocked. I am used to such unprovocated attacks. I just shared a curiosity (40 reads for a rejected text). To you that was enough of a pretext for what you did. Oh, well, it is your problem, I'll leave it at that.I only mentioned that there were 40 reads under a rejected text. That's all. The other stuff was started by you, not by me.Peaceful indeed.

I never had a reason to stop even for a second to have any "doubts" or "thoughts" one way or another--I didn't know (wouldn't dream ) that you have such strong emotions here; why, there are so many constructive things to do rather than to dwell on the Literotica social mishaps; possibly I undercommunicate since I am sceptic about a chance for a mutual understanding, and this indeed you have clarified for me.

If your only statement was about your rejected text, and the 40 views, then you wouldn't have needed to mention the problems with the literary state of lit, of which I am a member. That's where this started, in this thread, with your comment.

Welcome to communication 101.


still peaceful~

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Thank you. That's about 160 words below the limit. Actually I had also "footnotes", which to the program perhaps were no different than the regular text. Either they were not extensive enough or there was a human intervention (I have added the footnotes after the initial rejection, and the text was rejected again). As in the earlier cases, I am not going to append any pornanatomy or whatever to my stories to make them pass through the Literotica accepting program. Sure, I can write about clitoris and nipples getting hard when exposed to the cold air and/or hot fingers or toes, about the pre and postorgasmic juices flowing freely from the excited babes... yawn.

Literotica would reject the 95% of the incredible, great-great Isaac Babel's writings!!!   And a big part of Guy de Maupassant, I think.

Hm, they were masters of short story, and their life was cut short too.

BTW, the number of reads went up to 41. Why do they come back to it? (and after several days)?

Ah, for fuck's sake, grow up, will you? The rules are quite clear and have nothing to do with the quality of your submission. 750 words. Deal with it.

Maybe Babel would have taken two or three stories and submitted them together instead of wasting everyone's time over something this obvious...

 

[darkmaas]

Temper temper!

Ah, for fuck's sake, grow up, will you? The rules are quite clear and have nothing to do with the quality of your submission. 750 words. Deal with it.

Lauren! Senna is perfectly within his rights to whine about the arbitrairy nature of numbers greater than 10 (unless he takes off his socks). Great poets (and I'm sure Senna includes himself in this subset) should be above mere rules. And in fact even mediocre poets are. There seem to be no word restrictions for poems.

Perhaps, Senna, you should call your submission a prose poem.

 

[eagleyez]

Re: Temper temper!

Lauren! Senna is perfectly within his rights to whine about the arbitrairy nature of numbers greater than 10 (unless he takes off his socks). Great poets (and I'm sure Senna includes himself in this subset) should be above mere rules. And in fact even mediocre poets are. There seem to be no word restrictions for poems.

Perhaps, Senna, you should call your submission a prose poem.

brilliant concept

from one rulebender to another

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Yeah, I've heard of people who have tried to submit stories with less than 750 words being advised to submit it as a poem, calling it a prose-poem or not. I think it's disrespectful, but certainly an option.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Re: Temper temper!

Lauren! Senna is perfectly within his rights to whine about the arbitrairy nature of numbers greater than 10 (unless he takes off his socks).

Lauren's just rude.

Perhaps, Senna, you should call your submission a prose poem.

Thank you for this advice. I have already done it over fifteen months ago. See

                  Adam & Eve

And don't forget to vote & comment

BTW, I didn't ask anybody for any opinion or advice. Let me repeat that all I did was to mention 40 (now 41) reads under a rejected piece. I was asked (by Perks) about the rejection reason so I made a correct guess about the length, and I mentioned that it was not due to typos, misspellings, triteness (you know, the three virgin holes + nipples + clit + G-spot + a foot long sub stroked by big hands in the snows in the middle of nowhere).

OKeeDockee,

 

[jthserra]

40 and now 41 reads....

I had something similar happen with a very short story. From what I understand, the "reads" that are showing up are actually just a tally of the amount of times you "read" the poem... Apparently each time you look at your stats, it is recorded as a read. If you log out, and then log back in and look at your stats, you will see the additional read. Mine is at 19 and counting. I have to wonder if each time we go to the stats page if a read is added to each and every story and poem posted. It kind of sounds that way.


jim

 

[Senna Jawa]

Re: 40 and now 41 reads....

I had something similar happen with a very short story. From what I understand, the "reads" that are showing up are actually just a tally of the amount of times you "read" the poem... Apparently each time you look at your stats, it is recorded as a read. If you log out, and then log back in and look at your stats, you will see the additional read. Mine is at 19 and counting. I have to wonder if each time we go to the stats page if a read is added to each and every story and poem posted. It kind of sounds that way.


jim

What about the accepted pieces? Do they collect "reads" when one looks at the stats?