A True Conservative can't beat Obama

[KingOrfeo]

Because the American people don't want True Conservatism in the WH any more. All you anybody-but-Romney Liticons do realize that, don't you?

 

[RobDownSouth]

The level of epistemic closure is a bit frightening.

They've deluded themselves into thinking they're a majority.

 

[richard_daily]

The level of epistemic closure is a bit frightening.

They've deluded themselves into thinking they're a majority.

veteman tries to convince himself of it every day.

 

[TexasWife25]

Because the American people don't want True Conservatism in the WH any more. All you anybody-but-Romney Liticons do realize that, don't you?

Don't you know, that's liberal media propaganda!
Of course the average Americans are super conservative

 

[RobDownSouth]

veteman tries to convince himself of it every day.

He convinced himself a long time ago.

Now he's driven to have others share in his delusion.

Also, speaking of delusion, he cybered a guy.

 

[amicus]

Names are descriptions of concepts and abstraction when one is dealing with the intractions of people on a social and political level.

Each and every human has an innate right to his own life. Period. That is a moral absolute that was codified into law by the Founding Documents of the United States of America.

To 'conserve' those laws that protect and defend human life is something Americans will always choose; to rebut one part of your assinine assertions.

All people yearn for liberty, but only in America was that basic right acknowledged and protected, the right to life and liberty have and always be 'conserved'.

'The pursuit of happiness' is derivative and subjective; our documents originally read, "Life, Liberty, and Property." Property is an essential unalienable right to every human as the right to acquire 'property', is the right to procure food, shelter and clothing.

Thus, Property rights will always be conserved and preserved in a Conservative fashion, which is the fundamental description of life in a free country.

Your Servant....

the always amicable amicus...

 

[Sean]

Names are descriptions of concepts and abstraction when one is dealing with the intractions of people on a social and political level.

Each and every human has an innate right to his own life. Period. That is a moral absolute that was codified into law by the Founding Documents of the United States of America.

To 'conserve' those laws that protect and defend human life is something Americans will always choose; to rebut one part of your assinine assertions.

All people yearn for liberty, but only in America was that basic right acknowledged and protected, the right to life and liberty have and always be 'conserved'.

'The pursuit of happiness' is derivative and subjective; our documents originally read, "Life, Liberty, and Property." Property is an essential unalienable right to every human as the right to acquire 'property', is the right to procure food, shelter and clothing.

Thus, Property rights will always be conserved and preserved in a Conservative fashion, which is the fundamental description of life in a free country.

Your Servant....

the always amicable amicus...

Take more water with it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Names are descriptions of concepts and abstraction when one is dealing with the intractions of people on a social and political level.

Each and every human has an innate right to his own life. Period. That is a moral absolute that was codified into law by the Founding Documents of the United States of America.

To 'conserve' those laws that protect and defend human life is something Americans will always choose; to rebut one part of your assinine assertions.

All people yearn for liberty, but only in America was that basic right acknowledged and protected, the right to life and liberty have and always be 'conserved'.

'The pursuit of happiness' is derivative and subjective; our documents originally read, "Life, Liberty, and Property." Property is an essential unalienable right to every human as the right to acquire 'property', is the right to procure food, shelter and clothing.

Thus, Property rights will always be conserved and preserved in a Conservative fashion, which is the fundamental description of life in a free country.

Your Servant....

the always amicable amicus...

See, you're stating your political position, but offering no grounds to infer it is a majority position.

 

[sufisaint]

I agree this nation is too weak to stand on its own and will fall for any get something for nothing promise...the fall has already begun.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Take more water with it.

A bit more fiber in his diet might help, too.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Look, here's where the American people are now. Only 9% are Staunch Conservatives, only 11% are Mainstream Republicans, only 9% are Libertarians; harness all those votes (which nobody can -- anybody who appeals to the Staunch Conservatives will alienate a lot of Main Street Republicans) and you still don't have a majority. That leaves a True Conservative candidate going after the Disaffected vote, still only 11% and they don't vote much.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Most Americans are conservative cuz most Americans wanna keep the money they make, they want the gubmint to butt-out of their bidness, and they dont like it when lazee Niggaz bump the line.

 

[amicus]

Look, here's where the American people are now. Only 9% are Staunch Conservatives, only 11% are Mainstream Republicans, only 9% are Libertarians; harness all those votes (which nobody can -- anybody who appeals to the Staunch Conservatives will alienate a lot of Main Street Republicans) and you still don't have a majority. That leaves a True Conservative candidate going after the Disaffected vote, still only 11% and they don't vote much.

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Some might give you the benefit of doubt whether you are just stupid or a liar; I do not. You Lie!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ

-- Conservatives have maintained their leading position among U.S. ideological groups in the first half of 2010. Gallup finds 42% of Americans describing themselves as either very conservative or conservative. This is up slightly from the 40% seen for all of 2009 and contrasts with the 20% calling themselves liberal or very liberal.

Amicus VERITAS

 

[rosco rathbone]

I don't know if a true conservative can beat Obama or not. We're not about to find out, either, since both Gingrich and Romney are light years away from being any such thing....which will be used to explain their loss to him.

 

[amicus]

Oreo: Way over your head, but postulating an axiom, or a self evident truth, as I did, requires no reference material, just a mind that can rationally reason or...think...which you obviously cannot do.

Amicus

 

[NeverEndingMe]

and another 4 years of obama in office, america will file for Chapter 7

why do you support obama bankrupting america both of morals, values, and economic wealth??

Because the American people don't want True Conservatism in the WH any more. All you anybody-but-Romney Liticons do realize that, don't you?

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Look, here's where the American people are now. Only 9% are Staunch Conservatives, only 11% are Mainstream Republicans, only 9% are Libertarians; harness all those votes (which nobody can -- anybody who appeals to the Staunch Conservatives will alienate a lot of Main Street Republicans) and you still don't have a majority. That leaves a True Conservative candidate going after the Disaffected vote, still only 11% and they don't vote much.

and thanks to obama, over 50% of the American population has to live on some type of government aide. when will you be happy, when the number reaches 90%?

 

[garbage can]

Because the American people don't want True Conservatism in the WH any more. All you anybody-but-Romney Liticons do realize that, don't you?

Noop, I think Sarah Palin could have kicked Obama's ass right back to Chicago.

IMO, peeps want jobs and energy....Obama's not capable, Palin is/was.

 

[Sean]

Noop, I think Sarah Palin could have kicked Obama's ass right back to Chicago.

IMO, peeps want jobs and energy....Obama's not capable, Palin is/was.

Palin couldn't even stick with her own job until the end of her term. But it doesn't surprise me that YOU consider her a mental giant. Actually, from your perspective, she is.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Noop, I think Sarah Palin could have kicked Obama's ass right back to Chicago.

IMO, peeps want jobs and energy....Obama's not capable, Palin is/was.

Palin is what she is. obama is a turd in sheep's clothing - selling his mother to make a dollar.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Oreo: Way over your head, but postulating an axiom, or a self evident truth, as I did, requires no reference material, just a mind that can rationally reason or...think...which you obviously cannot do.

Amicus

If you could think, you would realize that making a case for your politics is irrelevant to this thread, which is about how (all) the people will vote.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Because the American people don't want True Conservatism in the WH any more. All you anybody-but-Romney Liticons do realize that, don't you?

we need more welfare!

 

[KingOrfeo]

~~~

Some might give you the benefit of doubt whether you are just stupid or a liar; I do not. You Lie!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141032/2010-conservatives-outnumber-moderates-liberals.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ

Amicus VERITAS

Yes, I know that poll, here's a better one using a finer instrument (five categories instead of three).

For years, traditional public opinion polling has broken down ideology into three distinct groupings: liberal, moderate, and conservative. Based on this categorization, there has been remarkable stability in ideological orientation, with roughly one-fifth of Americans identifying themselves as “liberal” and about four in 10 classifying themselves as “moderate” or ”conservative,” respectively, according to Gallup polling from 1992 to 2008.

In this study, however, the electorate is broken down using a more expansive five-point scale of political ideology that reflects the variety of approaches people ascribe to today. Employing this more calibrated measure, 34 percent of the country identifies as “conservative,” 29 percent as “moderate,” 15 percent as “liberal,” 16 percent as “progressive,” and 2 percent as “libertarian.” After moderates are asked which approach they lean toward, the overall ideological breakdown of the country divides into fairly neat left and right groupings, with 47 percent of Americans identifying as progressive or liberal and 48 percent as conservative or libertarian. The rest are unsure or scattered among moderate and other approaches.

Combining this five-point scale of political ideology with responses to the 40 specific ideological statements, the progressive leanings of the country become readily apparent. On the domestic front, after years of supply-side tax cuts, support for corporations (especially extractive oil and mining companies), and deregulation of the economy, large percentages of Americans increasingly favor progressive ideas centered on: sustainable lifestyles and green energy; public investment in education, infrastructure, and science; financial support for the poor, elderly, and sick; regulation of business to protect workers and consumers; and guaranteed affordable health coverage for every American. On the international front, the legacy of the Bush years has yielded to an American public far more interested in restoring the country’s image abroad, fighting climate change, and pursuing security through diplomacy, alliances, and international institutions than in the continued pursuit of national objectives through the sole projection of military might.

Approximately two-thirds of Americans—reaching to 70 percent to 80 percent on some measures—agree with progressive ideas in each of these domestic and global areas (see Table 1). Important cleavages emerge in the data, however, between non-college-educated Americans and college-educated elites. Non-college Americans are more populist and progressive than elites on some measures of government and economics and much more conservative on cultural and national security measures.

The rise of progressivism in America is reflected more starkly in direct ratings of various ideological approaches. Today, more than two-thirds of Americans rate a “progressive” approach to politics favorably, a 25-point increase in favorability over the last five years, with gains coming primarily from those who were previously unaware of the term. “Progressive” now equals ”conservative” in terms of overall public favorability (67 percent, respectively).

The continuing strength of the conservative brand—if not all of its constitutive ideas—reflects the long-term success of the conservative movement over decades. Despite electoral setbacks and larger proportions of Americans now adhering to progressive ideas about governance and society, the conservative worldview remains appealing to many Americans and creates important cleavages in the electorate, particularly on key cultural and national security beliefs. Conservative principles about markets, spending, national defense, and traditional values enjoy residual strength and could rise in prominence depending on shifts in the economic and political environment. Conservatives may be down but they are not out of the ideology game.

But unless and until conservatives recognize the depth of affinity between President Obama’s ideological approach and that of the American electorate, conservative ideas likely will remain in secondary status. According to this research, President Obama himself—and his ideas about governance outlined in his recent address to the joint session of Congress and his budget overview—best embodies in spirit, tone, and ideological and substantive content the emerging center spot in the American electorate today. The strong public support for President Obama reflects personal qualities and strengths that appeal broadly to Americans and genuine consensus among the public about the ideas and prescriptions necessary to navigate the country through turbulent waters.

Notably, the ideological areas of greatest consensus among Americans are all key priorities and investment targets of President Obama: renewable energy; education, science, and infrastructure; universal health care; financial support for the least well-off; public interest regulations; and reductions in inequality financed by increased taxes on the wealthy.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Noop, I think Sarah Palin could have kicked Obama's ass right back to Chicago.

IMO, peeps want jobs and energy....Obama's not capable, Palin is/was.

You really can't be so stupid as to believe a President Palin could deliver . . . well, anything.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I don't know if a true conservative can beat Obama or not. We're not about to find out, either, since both Gingrich and Romney are light years away from being any such thing....which will be used to explain their loss to him.

So who's a True Conservative? Santorum? (I know it ain't Paul; libertarianism is a different breed of animal.)