A trade war?

[Shagly]

I support that against the Commies.

Let's go for it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It will be short...






They'll cave faster than Boeing.

 

[Conager]

It will be short...






They'll cave faster than Boeing.

I've always been relatively short.

 

[water505]

It will be short...






They'll cave faster than Boeing.

To get an idea of Russia's economic strength Google "Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier" and read how well it operates.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Just double Iran's capabilities...



Or multiply Venezuela's GDP and the square it. That gets you into the ball park.

 

[about_average]

I support that against the Commies.

Let's go for it.

What percentage increase in the cost of goods and loss of more US jobs are you willing to support for your trade war?

 

[BotanyBoy]

What percentage increase in the cost of goods and loss of more US jobs are you willing to support for your trade war?

Wouldn't be anywhere near the problem if a problem a problem at all if (R)'s and (D)'s didn't make it so fucking difficult and insanely expensive to hire someone to do a job. Or had such over the top blatant protectionist regulations/bureaucracies and licencing to keep all the money in the attaboys club.

We don't have to loose jobs or increase the cost of goods if we just pull the bleeding heart and corporate protectionist bullshit regulations out of the way at the same time.

Our government needs to stop making it so fucking hard for people to make money for themselves and other people.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

There are never trade wars that involves goods you cant produce
. Trade wars always involve what competitors produce.

W quarrel about cars but never over bananas or Hillarys newest autobiography.

 

[Sean]

Or multiply Venezuela's GDP and the square it. That gets you into the ball park.

What?

 

[renard_ruse]

FAIR TRADE IS NOT A "TRADE WAR."

The media is once again lying and distorting and using inaccurate BS catch phrases to try to influence public perceptions.

We already have real trade wars against many countries, they are called SANCTIONS. We have had these REAL trade wars (sanctions) with many countries over the past 30 years, including South Africa, Iraq, Iran, Serbia, and many others, and currently are involved in one of the biggest real trade wars ever, with the world's second major nuclear power Russia.

The same media that claims that fair trade tarriffs are "trade wars" are the same ones who actively advocate the real trade war with Russia called sanctions. Supposedly its had no negative impact to the US economy according to the media, and is a good thing to "punish" Russia for not going along with the New World Order.

If the trade war with Russia is good, why are they in hysterics over the potential of a pretend "trade war" with China???

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wouldn't be anywhere near the problem if a problem a problem at all if (R)'s and (D)'s didn't make it so fucking difficult and insanely expensive to hire someone to do a job. Or had such over the top blatant protectionist regulations/bureaucracies and licencing to keep all the money in the attaboys club.

We don't have to loose jobs or increase the cost of goods if we just pull the bleeding heart and corporate protectionist bullshit regulations out of the way at the same time.

Our government needs to stop making it so fucking hard for people to make money for themselves and other people.

We do if we don't want slaves, that regulation is mostly necessary.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We do if we don't want slaves, that regulation is mostly necessary.

What total and utter fucking bullshit.

That shit was handled with minimal regulations long ago.

Corporate protectionism and market hoarding that has been going on pretty much non stop for the past 50~ish years minimum and neither has a fucking thing to do with preventing slavery.

Neither does making hiring someone a major life decision like I'm adopting a fucking child I have to care for or some shit. Gotta buy their kids braces and shit....provide an offense free work environment free of challenges and difficult things. Don't forget birth control for the cat!!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Define fair.


Is it when two parties get together and hammer out an agreement of mutual benefit or when government decides to be the hammer for its own benefit?

 

[Sean Renaud]

What total and utter fucking bullshit.

That shit was handled with minimal regulations long ago.

Corporate protectionism and market hoarding that has been going on pretty much non stop for the past 50~ish years minimum and neither has a fucking thing to do with preventing slavery.

Neither does making hiring someone a major life decision like I'm adopting a fucking child I have to care for or some shit. Gotta buy their kids braces and shit....provide an offense free work environment free of challenges and difficult things. Don't forget birth control for the cat!!

By long ago you mean when precisely? Can you put a date on it?

 

[BotanyBoy]

By long ago you mean when precisely? Can you put a date on it?

Dec 6. 1865

 

[Sean Renaud]

Well then the Great Depression shatters that claim. No we have not been doing just fine without regulations. Every regulation is written in disasters. Nobody sits around and gets bored and comes up with these things. Something happens that makes people do this.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It will be short...

They'll cave faster than Boeing.

The Germans said that in 1940. It vill be a short war, ja!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Wouldn't be anywhere near the problem if a problem a problem at all if (R)'s and (D)'s didn't make it so fucking difficult and insanely expensive to hire someone to do a job.

If you truly believe trade sanctions are less destructive than government regulations, then you are beyond redemption.

Trade wars are wars of attrition, and if Murica has shown us one thing in it's past, it's that it will not support lengthy drawn out engagements.

China will grind us into dust in a trade war.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Even if we won would the common American win or just fuck the common Chinese citizen because sorry that isn't my goal.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well then the Great Depression shatters that claim. No we have not been doing just fine without regulations.

What claim?

I never claimed we would be doing just fine without regulations.

I'm not an anarchist.

But I'm also not a commie either who thinks the government should be deciding how much I'm allowed to make or pay others to do work for me. Arbitrary limitations to hoard/protect markets and forcing employers under the law to pay all these fucking benefits to bullshit laborers to sell votes.

Believe it or not you can GO TOO FAR with that crony/bleeding heart bullshit and it will stifle economic growth/job creation.

You can't make a 15/hr employee cost somone 80k a year and expect them to be happy about knowing they now have to buy their employees teen daughter birth control now too.

"Fuck you I'm going to Mexico." is the response you will get when you do that not to mention creating a black market for labor.

Nobody sits around and gets bored and comes up with these things. Something happens that makes people do this.

Bull fucking shit, they sit around and think of ways to get paid...and then regulations come out.

If you truly believe trade sanctions are less destructive than government regulations, then you are beyond redemption.

Good thing I don't think that, not that some racist shit kicker from Texas and his measure of what's beyond redemption means much.

China will grind us into dust in a trade war.

LOL, you're a fucking moron.

 

[Conager]

Wouldn't be anywhere near the problem if a problem a problem at all if (R)'s and (D)'s didn't make it so fucking difficult and insanely expensive to hire someone to do a job. Or had such over the top blatant protectionist regulations/bureaucracies and licencing to keep all the money in the attaboys club.

We don't have to lose jobs or increase the cost of goods if we just pull the bleeding heart and corporate protectionist bullshit regulations out of the way at the same time.

Our government needs to stop making it so fucking hard for people to make money for themselves and other people.

You'll never get through to people who truly believe the government improves the workplace and does so with no productivity losses. That those productivity losses do not affect labor costs as well as the net compensation workers receive. Japanese and German autoworkers are well paid. They have great safety records. And their governments assist rather than hamper business concerns.

and they're still able to produce a product and spend the money that it cost to ship it to America and sell a competitive product.

nevermind what happens when you then take another bite out of the corporation by charging him the second highest tax rate in the world. you're talking to people who believe that that has no impact on the cost of the goods that the corporation sells no impact on how deep they can get market share with their new higher-cost Goods they can't even agree that the goods are going to cost more. They can't agree that all that money out of the corporate coffers has any impact whatsoever on what Labour is paid how many employees they can afford to have and whether they are ultimately need to automate in order to avoid those labor and payroll costs.

 

[Shagly]

There must be a way to slow down Commie China.

The States bailed them out pre W.W. 2 when Japan was kicking ass.

Russia was stupid enough to join Germany in the Poland takeover then to fight Germany, so much for Communism.

China has a major plan to knock out Capitalism.

It's early 21st. Century, hold on tight.

 

[phrodeau]

I see BotanyBoy doesn't have what it takes to be someone's boss.

Big surprise there.