A sub's punishment for jealousy...

[Hisownprecious]

i have done wrong by my Master. i have shown, once again, my jealous nature. i need to be broken of this, and Master seeks to do so, or i will be dismissed. i need to learn that His cum is His own; that i do not own Him. As part of my punishment, and as a part of a lesson that i must learn, Master has sent me to find a woman for Him to be with, cyberly or in real life, as i watch. It is essential that she suck His cock, as Master loves to be served in this way. She will need to be adventurous, sexually. She will need to be submissive in nature.

If this is to be a real life event she absolutely must be drug and disease free.

If this is to be a cyber event she should be verbally adept, as Master appreciates a certain intelligence.Also, if cyber, this will take place on yahoo instant messanger, a free service, if you do not have it and are interested, please still respond.

Kindly reply to this if you would be willing to help me get back into Master's good graces, and help me to learn this important lesson. Thank you for your time.
His own...
precious

 

[Journey1Bear]

Your master

Your Master has a plan for you. Jeaslousy...the green eyed monster. You must let it go. For your own peace if mind. He loves you and wants you to understand. For you to take the next next on your journey to becoming the perfect sub...for yourself.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Your master

Your Master has a plan for you. Jeaslousy...the green eyed monster. You must let it go. For your own peace if mind. He loves you and wants you to understand. For you to take the next next on your journey to becoming the perfect sub...for yourself.

jealousy comes from insecurity, maybe Master needs to be sure his sub is secure and feels safe first.

 

[Hisownprecious]

Re: Your master

Your Master has a plan for you. Jeaslousy...the green eyed monster. You must let it go. For your own peace if mind. He loves you and wants you to understand. For you to take the next next on your journey to becoming the perfect sub...for yourself.

And for Master...but yes, for myself. i hate the way i feel when the jealousy overtakes me. i hate not trusting Him. i hate feeling this insecurity. i know that Master has a plan for me. i know that ultimately He wishes for me to be a better person...a better submissive.

Trust is, after all, so very important in the DOM/sub relationship. i know that if i feel jealousy about anything that Master does, that is me not trusting Him. There is no pleasure for me if i do not trust Him. There is no contentment with Him if i do not trust Him. i know that this jealousy is automatic with me. i know that it is not that my Master has shown Himself to be untrustworthy. It is my past that holds me to this monster. Master seeks to help me break free of the past that keeps me bound to this need to so aggressively protect what is mine. W/we have discussed this. i know that this will help me to grow. This experience will help me see that He will be coming home to me, in the end. This is most important to me. To know that, in the end, when it matters most, He will be by my side.

i would love to know about how other subs have dealt with this emotion. i would like to know about how you have handled this feeling.

i know that Master loves me. i'm sure He knows how i love Him, as well. This is part of the reason that i seek so strongly to be broken of this. If we are to grow and stay together...the jealousy must go.

His own...
precious

 

[Hisownprecious]

Re: Re: Your master

jealousy comes from insecurity, maybe Master needs to be sure his sub is secure and feels safe first.

Kajira...my jealousy does not come from my Master. It comes from my past. A past which He had no hand in. He only seeks to help me break free of this feeling. He knows how much i hate feeling this way. With Master i do feel safe...i do feel secure.
This jealousy that i have inside me comes from an insecurity that has built up over the years. From being cheated on...from being left on my own in some difficult moments. Not by Master, though. By people in the past...people who i trusted and who failed that trust. i know that i need to be broken of this. The way i feel when this takes me is not a good feeling at all. W/we have discussed this and it is MY choice as to what i would ultimately do. i know that i can always walk away. i have made my choice. This punishment will be a good thing. Of this i am sure.

Thnak you for your concern, though, Kajira. i do so appreciate it.

His own...
precious

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Re: Re: Your master

Kajira...my jealousy does not come from my Master. It comes from my past. A past which He had no hand in. He only seeks to help me break free of this feeling. He knows how much i hate feeling this way. With Master i do feel safe...i do feel secure.
This jealousy that i have inside me comes from an insecurity that has built up over the years. From being cheated on...from being left on my own in some difficult moments. Not by Master, though. By people in the past...people who i trusted and who failed that trust. i know that i need to be broken of this. The way i feel when this takes me is not a good feeling at all. W/we have discussed this and it is MY choice as to what i would ultimately do. i know that i can always walk away. i have made my choice. This punishment will be a good thing. Of this i am sure.

Thnak you for your concern, though, Kajira. i do so appreciate it.

His own...
precious

well punishing you for an issue he is aware of is fucked up and abusive...i think you need to wake up...both of you!

 

[Journey1Bear]

Peace

Kajira,

Your views are at opposites with your profile. You should know that her master is trying to help her overcome her jeaslousies. She needs his strength and control to help take the next logical step for her.

If he has decided that she must bring a woman to him, then she must go and hunt...a primal urge....

Journey1Bear....peace.

 

[crimsonlace]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Your master

well punishing you for an issue he is aware of is fucked up and abusive...i think you need to wake up...both of you!

~applauds~

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Peace

Kajira,

Your views are at opposites with your profile. You should know that her master is trying to help her overcome her jeaslousies. She needs his strength and control to help take the next logical step for her.

If he has decided that she must bring a woman to him, then she must go and hunt...a primal urge....

Journey1Bear....peace.

primal urge to hunt eh? thought that was a guy thing. ppl who talk from their ass piss me off.

 

[corkie2]

Has your Master always from the start said that he would have other submissives and you must agree to this or he would not want to be in a relationship with you. Did you agree to this? If so then you do have to follow through or let him go.

If not thend for your Master to insist on such punishment is not good right. You cannot force someone to get over the kind of treatment you have had by subjecting them to such treatment. To me it just seem's cruel and heartless to tell someone who has had their trust betrayed "I will cure you by taking another woman and you will watch me" you will see that I will not leave you by this and therefore get over your lack of trust in me. OH, COME ON!!! I would like to know if this man would feel he could learn to trust a woman and not have his insecruties come up if he had women treat him the way men treated you???

Learning to trust and to not feel insecrue comes from just that....you learn to trust and to feel secure over time by learning that you will not be treated the same as before.....he does not go and sleep with other women...he does not want other women...he does not mistreat you. This in my mind is mistreatment....to me he is saying "I am the Master my way or the high way"....it smacks if his not respecting you and what you feel.

It is to much like a bad parent who uses their childs fears of the dark to punish them...they lock them in a dark closet to teach them that there is not boogy man....you stay in there until you learn that there is nothing to be afraid of in the dark because nothing happens to you...................yeah...that will teach little Suzie there is nothing to fear.

If you do this I hope for your sake it works and does not back fire...I know it would not work for me. I could not trust and confide in someone who would punish me for my honesty about how I felt...I would just learn not to share with that person what I honestly felt. I mean if sharing led to such a punsihment....why would I be honest about my feeling's. Better to keep my mouth shut.

But, that is just how I feel.

 

[Hisownprecious]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Your master

well punishing you for an issue he is aware of is fucked up and abusive...i think you need to wake up...both of you!

He is not punishing me for an issue. He is punishing me for an action. A jealous action, to be sure. This is not the first time i have had a problem with this. Not the first time i have been disrespectful in the way that i have recently.

He and i have discussed my issues...this is not a punishment for my issue. And my actions have been nothing but irrational. i freely admit that. i have had this issue for years. He is trying to help me over this. This is O/our way. i understand if this is not your way...

However, it is O/ours...this is a choice that i have freely made...He has not forced me into this...i know that i can always walk away...

This lifestyle will have many variations...as will life itself... i accept the differences...i would not question the actions of another's Master...not when His sub is walking with Him willingly

 

[corkie2]

Well, although I do not agree or approve of what you have chosen to do I would like to hear after it happens how you feel then... I would like to know if this kind of cure really can work.

Would you come back and post how thing's turn out? Let us know if him being with another woman in front of you really cures you of your jelousy?

I would also like to know if the situation were reversed....(he is still a Dom & you a sub)Lets say a previous submissive had treated him in the past like you were treated by previous men you were with. (it does not matter if they were Dom's or not...) If these submissives had cheated on him with other Dom's...would he be willing to be cured of his jelosy by watching you with another Dom? Even if it hurt him...stabbed him in the heart to see it. Would it cause him to not longer feel possive? to feel no jelousy? (And please don't say "well, that would not be an issure 'cause I am her Master and she aint gonna be with no one else 'cause she is not allowed to. I don't allow my slaves to be with anyone else" That kind or reply would only confirm my suspisions of abuse!)

 

[Journey1Bear]

Peace

Corkie,

You sound like many others. Confused as to the issue here. I think I know what she is getting at. And, what he is trying to help her with. She wants to be his as a total submissive in all ways possible to please him. What drives them both is none of our business to judge. Not yours or mine.

Don't you think that her DOM may just know her well enough to give her a task he knows she wants to do (for herself as well as for him). A push from him to help her take another step...a step she wants to take.

A sub can always walk away. There is no abuse here. Don't forget a submissive, is a submissive by her own free given choice and a DOM is a leader,and a master and a teacher.

 

[corkie2]

I agree with you and to understand what their goal is but also understand the subtle pressure that can be put on a submissive to do what the Dom want's them to do for fear of displeasing them and maybe being dismissed. There is a great need in us to please and fulfill what our Dom's wish's from/for us that can lead to the submissive just going along with things-seeming for those that observe us that we are completely happy with what is going on. While on the inside it might be tearing us apart.

I say this because I have experienced it myself and seen other submissives-male & female- stuggle with it. We want soooo hard to please that we will do as we are told. Even to the point of shutting down our inner feelings in order to do what we perceive our Dom's want. It is something some of us are good at...and beleive me if a sub really does not want their Dom to know what is on the inside there are those of us who learned early on in life to give the out ward appearence of peacefullness and contentment while on the inside dieing! We learned to wall our feeling off inside so those outside cannot see them.

There is a really good chance that her Master is not a psychologist or someone who had a mental health background and is just going by what he see's as the way to "cure" her. (maybe he read of this scenerio in a story? 'Cause I sure have) That plus the fact that is assignment was given as punishment for feeling the way she does just seem's way to off for me. She obviously has problems with sharing her man....why is that so wrong? Why is it so important to him that she share's him? Does he share her? She has trust issues........so he punishes her by makinging her choose someone to share him with while she is forced to watch???? I can see punishing her if she act's out because of jelousy...but this is not healthy for her psyche or so it seem's to me. Punsih her in some way that does not reinforce insecurities.

I have trust issues to...........I also prefer a monogomous relationship with the little addition if we should want other's involved (on occasion) it be something we agree on mutually and of our free will (not under threat of displeasing him or being punished if I am honset about not being comfortable with it).................and I stand by my feelings if I were to be punished for any feeling's of insecurity (such as she is) I would clam up and not share how I feel. I would behave just as required and put on a really good show of contentment and peacefullness with what is going on. I learned how to do this in a previous relationship where I was punsihed for not thinking & feeling as required by my male partner. It is not hard to do if you are afraid of loosing your man and you are desperate to keep him.

How is he ever going to be sure what he sees or thinks he does in her is what is really there if he punish's her for letting him know how she feel's? I just don't get it................

More power to her if it truely work's but I have my doubt's and want to know if there is anyone out there that this truely worked for. I would really like to know if such a "cure" would work. Do you know of anyone it has worked for? I would also like to know if her Dom think's this kind of treatment would work for him if the shoe were on the other foot. (and I still say the reply of "Not a problem....I am a Dom and make the decisions. So if I don't wanna share I don't have to." That smacks of cop-out to me)

Can't help it....just seems really cruel and disrespectful to me for her to be forced to do this....cause she admit's it is a punishment........not something she is doing out of love. If it were she would not say it is a punishment and something she is doing 'cause he told her to.

I understand completely what their goal is......cure her of jelousy and insecurities..........got that. Their method just is off to me. Just my opinion. I wish her luck and would love to know if it work's...

 

[Journey1Bear]

corkie

Read her first post very carfully. Does it sound like she is in fear or turmoil. I don't see it. It's not there. Does it look like she is being "FORCED". Yes, she used the word punishment. But in what context, we don't really know. New subs will often disobey to press a point they can't yet verbally get out. As I re-read her posts I see only a woman trying to overcome jealousy. We don't know what they have talked about. Agreed to, or not agreed to.

 

[Krinaia]

perhaps i am failing to see when the headgames end... but can't the mind fuck be tiring and overdone? people's hearts and sanity should not be played with too carelessly, especially when laid in someone else's hands with trust and love...

the idea has appeal for both but be wary of the unknown harm it can do... once done, it cannot be undone. don't let his sadism hurt you in ways that your masochism cannot heal you.

 

[Journey1Bear]

Peace

Sadism. Sadistic. To torture. To hurt. I see a lot of women here have been hurt by men. I still feel she is a willing participant in a rather unusual relationship outside what society calls the norm.

Peace

 

[Hisownprecious]

Wow...so much activity on my little thread...hmm...

The first thing that keeps coming to my lips when i see how people are posting is thati want this. i can't say this enough. i walk freely into this, knowing that i have the power to walk away. This is a power that i have all on my own. Master does give me a certain strength, adn i revel in that. But i have had time to myself to think long and hard about what i wanted to do here.

Have i think about walking away from working through this issue? Yes, i have. Several times. Yet, i stay. This jealous behavior is not something that i enjoy, by any means. Any time i act on the tightness that comes with an instant reaction...i hate the things that i do. i hurt people, including myself, and it needs to stop.

Would you come back and post how thing's turn out? Let us know if him being with another woman in front of you really cures you of your jelousy?

This is a process, resolution of this issue will take more steps than simply this...when this comes about, though, i will happily share how it goes and what it accomplishes...

You sound like many others. Confused as to the issue here. I think I know what she is getting at. And, what he is trying to help her with. She wants to be his as a total submissive in all ways possible to please him. What drives them both is none of our business to judge. Not yours or mine.

Thank you for this, Bear...this is exactly true...i know that some do not understand all of what is going on with Master and i...but mostly, though, with me...i do wish to be the complete submissive...not only for Him...i see a freedom in this that i know i can not find any other way...to be able to give myself completely to another...this is a freedom that i long for

Don't you think that her DOM may just know her well enough to give her a task he knows she wants to do (for herself as well as for him). A push from him to help her take another step...a step she wants to take.

This is a step that i want to take...and one that i will take...He does know me enough to know that this, while, yes, pushing my limits, will help me to grow...no matter what anyone else believes, this is my life and my submission...i don't understand why people can not just let this be...discussion is good...but i see some being attacked for expressing their beliefs...surely not what i had in mind...

A sub can always walk away. There is no abuse here. Don't forget a submissive, is a submissive by her own free given choice and a DOM is a leader,and a master and a teacher.

Abuse is what one makes of it...when Master and i are together and He, for instance, takes His hand to my ass...some would deem this abuse...but i know and welcome this...some would look at this lovely reddened cheek and say that He has abused me...isn't this for me to say...i know that i have the choice to walk away...i always know that...i choose not to...this is my relationship...i don't understand why, in this Life, some would look at what i freely do, and deem it wrong...who are you to say what is wrong in my life...i appreciate your opinions...but this is something that i freely do...

 

[Hisownprecious]

Can't help it....just seems really cruel and disrespectful to me for her to be forced to do this....cause she admit's it is a punishment........not something she is doing out of love. If it were she would not say it is a punishment and something she is doing 'cause he told her to.

Sorry to have snipped you, dear...but this is somthing that i feel the need to address just now. This is a punishment...a direct response to my negative action. This has not been decided at the spur of the moment. There were several days between the action and the giving of this assignment.

Let us, for a moment, address punishment...In punishing a child, what is the point? You tell a child not to touch the fire. Child touches the fire...the child is punished. Why? To teach the child a very important lesson. Do we punish this child because we feel the need for revenge...because we feel the need to be petty and make them suffer for not obeying. By no means. There are consequences because we want this child to learn...to grow. This punishment is out of love and concern for this child. No one wants to see a child in pain. Therefore, the child must learn.

Now, this is a very basic example. i am not, by any stretch of the imagination, a child. Punishment, in this case, is drawn out by Master's love and concern for me. For my well being...i know some don't understand that. i do this of my own free will. i do this to help myself to grow beyind this emotion, as far as is possible. i am doing this for U/us so that W/we can have a relationship free from my irrational actions when i feel this way. More, though, i am doing this for ME. As i have said before, i hate the way i feel when i have jealous moments. i just want to be done with it. i am willing to try this. i trust Master with this. Please, don't think that i am going into this blindly...i know that there will be some pain involved...growth is sometimes a painful process. W/we have had an experience recently, a taste of what is to come with this event. Was it painful? Yes, it was...during...but after i felt so much better about myself...i felt somewhat released. After, Master and i talked very openly about how i felt...and i knew that He was there with me...home with me, so to speak. It was a very good feeling...it was a very good experience.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Re: Peace

Sadism. Sadistic. To torture. To hurt. I see a lot of women here have been hurt by men. I still feel she is a willing participant in a rather unusual relationship outside what society calls the norm.

Peace

maybe i saw a little more of all of this then you know and ya know what, im allowed my opinion also. she was already punished by him and now again, it wasnt good enough to ignore her for a week to the point where she was in complete dispair, now lets add this and call it punishment for her actions.hmmm something should be said for alarms going off in quite a few ppl experienced in this lifestlyes head , who are posting in oder to protect someone who might not be seeing what she should. gee wiz, maybe we outta sit back and watch another true submissive heart be destroyed by another abuser disguised as a Dom.

 

[Journey1Bear]

peace

kajira,

You are being quite the bitch here...and not listening...you are being judgemental..and abusive....you need to be chastised for your behavior.

I for one see only a caring giving woman i His precious..and you want to turn this into a drama of your own making....

You shoud be very ashamed....

 

[Hisownprecious]

Re: Re: Peace

maybe i saw a little more of all of this then you know and ya know what, im allowed my opinion also. she was already punished by him and now again, it wasnt good enough to ignore her for a week to the point where she was in complete dispair, now lets add this and call it punishment for her actions.hmmm something should be said for alarms going off in quite a few ppl experienced in this lifestlyes head , who are posting in oder to protect someone who might not be seeing what she should. gee wiz, maybe we outta sit back and watch another true submissive heart be destroyed by another abuser disguised as a Dom.

Kajira...you don't know eveything about all this....Master took a step back in order to not instantly react to my actions...you don't know what i did...so, how do you know if what i am to do is appropiate...

It wasn't for a week...it was a few needed days apart...time W/we both needed to consider walking away from each other all together...yes, it was hard for me...but it was consequences for an action i willfully took...and i am stronger for having endured it...

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion...and in posting this on a public board i suppose, W/we should have expected some reaction...though, nothing like the bashing that has come from you...i, personally would have preferrred you to PM me, rather than bring your concerns public and bash U/us like you have...

If you have something to say, fine...but this is my life...my decision...not yours...or anyone else's...not even my Master's... and if you think that talking about Him like this is going to change my mind at all about what i am to do you are surely mistaken

One final word...this is a personals ad...it has served that purpose for me...if i need anymore assistance in this, i will seek elsewhere...i would rather not deal with the name calling...or being put down because i choose to live my life differently that other's would have me do...

 

[Journey1Bear]

A response

I am "Hisprecious' master and dom. she is a wonderful woman....and partner...Since I am responsible for starting this mess..I'll end it.

Moderator....please remove this thread.

 

[Journey1Bear]

c

I am also known as HandsomeHunk......

 

[Hisownprecious]

Re: A response

I am "Hisprecious' master and dom. she is a wonderful woman....and partner...Since I am responsible for starting this mess..I'll end it.

Moderator....please remove this thread.

Thank You for this, my love...