A Simple Request

Angeline

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The endless De Sade/whoever arguments are spilling into ever more threads. I find them disheartening in that they increasingly detract from what should be the purpose of this board:

the appreciation and constructive support of poetry.

We are losing focus, poets, and I will no longer participate in threads or posts where we bash one another. I did that to a certain extent over the past few weeks and am unhappy about it--annoyed at myself frankly for time that should have been spent reading and writing, not arguing.

I'm not judging anyone or making any statement about who is right or wrong or who can or can't write poetry. Nor am I trying to be sanctimonius--I'm just doing what's right for me.

Please poets, remember why we are here and what those of us with some longevity--posters and lurkers, alike--value about this place. And think, too, about the new poets. If I came here today for the first time and read these posts, I would leave. I wouldn't want to be here. Think about it.

Can we limit the arguments to De Sade's feedback thread? If his posts in other threads incense you, try to ignore them or respond in his own thread. I believe if we do that, it will calm down.

De Sade, I wish you the best and have no desire to discuss this with you. I ask you respectfully to not attempt to draw me into the game--I won't play. I understand and respect your position that you won't attack nonresponders--consider me one.

If you support this, say so here and post poems and ideas about poetics. Please, no fighting in this thread, ok?

By the way, those of you familiar with The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis, a book that masquerades as a Christian parable but has great insight into human nature for us all, might see striking similarities with what has been going on here. Consider the following taken from a review of the book:

The real power of The Screwtape Letters comes from Lewis' subtle insights into human nature which often leapt off the page and hit home with me. Lewis's devils do not run around causing evil in obvious and crude ways like starting natural disasters or spreading fatal diseases. Instead they look to exploit common human weaknesses and then allow the humans to unwittingly cause all the evil in the world.

Not to overstate the import of all this, but food for thought.
 
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Hey de sade?
The GB is that way ------->

This is the poetry forum. :)
 
Yeah, Angeline, it seems now you want to call a truce. Well, ok, I'll accept that. I am here to get feedback and not insults. I will post more and contribute my input to everyone's work only if the flame wars cease. Deal?
 
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All I ask is that we limit flame wars to your thread(s) so that those of us who wish to simply pursue poetry can do so without stepping through minefields. If you respect that, I hope the others will, also. Now, please respect my request of no arguing in this thread.

If that cannot be, then I can no longer be a part of this forum. No blame, just following my own path.

Thank you.
 
anything for you, Angeline

Angeline said:
The endless De Sade/whoever arguments are spilling into ever more threads. I find them disheartening in that they increasingly detract from what should be the purpose of this board:

the appreciation and constructive support of poetry.

We are losing focus, poets, and I will no longer participate in threads or posts where we bash one another. I did that to a certain extent over the past few weeks and am unhappy about it--annoyed at myself frankly for time that should have been spent reading and writing, not arguing.

I'm not judging anyone or making any statement about who is right or wrong or who can or can't write poetry. Nor am I trying to be sanctimonius--I'm just doing what's right for me.

Please poets, remember why we are here and what those of us with some longevity--posters and lurkers, alike--value about this place. And think, too, about the new poets. If I came here today for the first time and read these posts, I would leave. I wouldn't want to be here. Think about it.

Can we limit the arguments to De Sade's feedback thread? If his posts in other threads incense you, try to ignore them or respond in his own thread. I believe if we do that, it will calm down.

De Sade, I wish you the best and have no desire to discuss this with you. I ask you respectfully to not attempt to draw me into the game--I won't play. I understand and respect your position that you won't attack nonresponders--consider me one.

If you support this, say so here and post poems and ideas about poetics. Please, no fighting in this thread, ok?

By the way, those of you familiar with The Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis, a book that masquerades as a Christian parable but has great insight into human nature for us all, might see striking similarities with what has been going on here. Consider the following taken from a review of the book:

The real power of The Screwtape Letters comes from Lewis' subtle insights into human nature which often leapt off the page and hit home with me. Lewis's devils do not run around causing evil in an obvious and crude ways like starting natural disasters or spreading fatal diseases. Instead they look to exploit common human weaknesses and then allow the humans to unwittingly cause all the evil in the world.

Not to overstate the import of all this, but food for thought.

I'll do it for you, Angeline. It's going to be like the incurable itch, but I promise I'll do it for you. What you said about new poets being turned off by seeing all of this hits home. That, plus your comments about devils tricking humans into causing evil in the world also hits the nail on the head.

*trying really, really hard to behave*
--Xtaabay :rose:
 
I'll do it for you, Angeline. It's going to be like the incurable itch, but I promise I'll do it for you. What you said about new poets being turned off by seeing all of this hits home. That, plus your comments about devils tricking humans into causing evil in the world also hits the nail on the head.

*trying really, really hard to behave*



:kiss: (and also I made a brucha for you the night before your defense :))
 
I'll behave too. Oh, wait a minute -- I've been good all along. I didn't get my tootsies dirty in this muddy mess. :D
 
I'll behave too. Oh, wait a minute -- I've been good all along. I didn't get my tootsies dirty in this muddy mess.

We'll have no good behavoir from you, missy! Let's not lose our heads here! :p
 
Angeline said:
All I ask is that we limit flame wars to your thread(s) so that those of us who wish to simply pursue poetry can do so without stepping through minefields. If you respect that, I hope the others will, also. Now, please respect my request of no arguing in this thread.

If that cannot be, then I can no longer be a part of this forum. No blame, just following my own path.

Thank you.
I promise not to argue, but I hope you don't mind the little snipes between Xtaabay, CrowFliesOver, Darkmaas, myself, et. al. - If we were to drive you away, I would be right there with Lauren; punching you in the mouth! :D :rose: :D

And for De Sade's enlightenment: All of the "attacks" you see between the above mentioned regular posters are completely in jest. It is how we have chosen to relate to each other. We actually have great respect for each other, although we would never admit to it. (I disavow what I just wrote!) :) :p :)
The trouble I have with you, is that if you are just kidding I do not know it. If you are being humorous by intention your humor is something that does go right over my head.
And by the way, why have you never submited anything to Lit?

Regards,                                 Rybka
 
Dear Rybka,

Thank you fishie! Let me reiterate that I'm neither trying nor desire to be the "poetry board police." (And "poetry police" is kinda a cool title for a challenge, isn't it?) I just felt as though that paticular series of punchfests was overtaking the board, and that we were becoming more about that than poetry feedback and discussion.

Now those little whatever-they-ares between you, Xxy, Crow, whatever--trying to stop *that* would be like trying to stop gravity!

And as for you punching me, might I point out that while Lauren has a gun, you have er fins. ;)

P.S. Did you ever see my trutta?:rose: :) :rose:
 
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Damn it. Why did you have to ruin my joke?

because the idea of being in hand-to-hand-to-fin combat is just too silly?

(besides, as you know, I have a certain fondness for fish;) )
 
A & L, when I behave you should worry -- the lull before the storm. :devil:
 
Angeline said:
Dear Rybka,

Thank you fishie! Let me reiterate that I'm neither trying nor desire to be the "poetry board police." (And "poetry police" is kinda a cool title for a challenge, isn't it?) I just felt as though that paticular series of punchfests was overtaking the board, and that we were becoming more about that than poetry feedback and discussion.

Now those little whatever-they-ares between you, Xxy, Crow, whatever--trying to stop *that* would be like trying to stop gravity!

And as for you punching me, might I point out that while Lauren has a gun, you have er fins. ;)

P.S. Did you ever see my trutta?:rose: :) :rose:
O.K. I will not punch you, I will bite your ass... Ah, make that nibble your toes. I am not that big. :) And no, I did not know you had a trout, and still do not. :p
By the way, shouldn't "bluesest" have one less "s" when modifying "skies"? :)

Regards,                                 Rybka
 
"bluesest"

is a sky full of blues (a heretofore unknown phenomenon I discovered while listening to Prez--and, ok, drinking a wee bit of wine, but who's counting :D )

and the trout (which certain dogs, ok one dog lol, said looks like a coelacanth!) is under the link.

ok! it's a California Golden trout, wisefish. And get off my toe! foot feti-- fishisht--oh forget it!:D
 
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sideshow_cecil said:
does he mean just cheesemakers or all dairy workers in general?


.........and what about the egg layers? They're pretty blessed too.
 
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