A Senile Joe Biden is infinitely better choice for President than a

[ByteMe13]

Putin-loving
Pussy-grabbing
Serial-lying
War-hero mocking
Ivanka-lusting
Election-denying
Witness-threatening
Porn-star banging
Convicted felon
POS like Trump.

 

[adrina]

Agreed.

However I don't think Joe is senile.

Trump's off his rocker. And Joe is old.

 

[ByteMe13]

Agreed.

However I don't think Joe is senile.

Trump's off his rocker. And Joe is old.

They are both old.

I don’t think Joe Biden is senile either but even if he was, he would still be a better choice for President than a …

 

[adrina]

They are both old.

I don’t think Joe Biden is senile either but even if he was, he would still be a better choice for President than a …

You are correct. We always focus on Biden's age, but the reality is that Trump is no spring chicken. He's loud, with bronzer and spray blonde hair. He's like the old women who wear lots of bad makeup poorly. Heh. Sorry, tangent.

 

[Chernosoth]

Anti-student anti-worker lyin' Biden, and the possibly deliberate timing of an early debate to dump him and get a new candidate. A few lols, but no lolcats.

 

[dmallord]

They are both old.

I don’t think Joe Biden is senile either but even if he was, he would still be a better choice for President than a …

Reagan had his Nancy. Biden has Dr. Jill. We are better for that. At least Biden has competent advisors. The other guy doesn't have a cabinet that can offer advice or even dare to offer some.

Rumor says he is considering Mike Flynn again. He lasted a month the first time before he was ousted over lying to Mike Pence about Russia. Flynn received a pardon already, so he has that experience under his belt.

The clear choice, as you said is Joe.

 

[KeithD]

Agreed.

However I don't think Joe is senile.

Trump's off his rocker. And Joe is old.

Well, the truth is that Joe may be drifting into senility. That's one thing that can happen with advanced age, and the truth is that he's exhibiting signs of it. All of the cold/exhaustion excuses that have been given don't cover it. His campaigners aren't dummies. They would have seen to it that he entered the debate rested and fresh if that had really been the key issues. The debate was known to be a really big deal.

But, yes, Trump is just off his rocker bonkers (and only three years behind Biden in age, so age isn't a true differentiating factor between them). There are so many more good aspects to Biden and rotten ones to Trump that there's no excuse for a rational person not to easily be able to make a choice between them, given that they are the two serious options.

 

[Bray123]

Oh dear. The President was talking about the Vice-President and slurred over the 'Vice' part.

That means that he was describing himself as a black woman and it was so ridiculous. He should never be President!

 

[Lazaran]

Oh dear. The President was talking about the Vice-President and slurred over the 'Vice' part.

That means that he was describing himself as a black woman and it was so ridiculous. He should never be President!

On a more serious note related to President Biden’s speaking gaffes:

I saw an interview with President Biden where he explained how there are tricks for stutterers to beat their problem. One of the tricks involves getting into a flow of speech (many stutterers can sing quite fluidly) and using connecting phrases - like when President Biden repeatedly uses: “look”, “no joke”, “seriously folks”, “by the way”, etc, he is really just keeping his flow going. And when President Biden’s word flow gets interrupted due to tiredness, a distraction, etc, things go off the rails, and the disrupted audible word flow comes across as some more serious brain issue (not that a stutter isn’t serious) rather than something related to his stutter.

Now speaking problems aside, I guarantee, when it comes to important things involving running the government and the country, President Biden is orders of magnitude more coherent that Captain Covfefe.

Remember:

Rex Tillerson ACTUALLY called Captain Covfefe a “fucking moron” because of how clueless that orange POS was about everything.

 

[YDB95]

I do not believe he's senile; he has always been a mediocre speaker at best, nor do I buy the idea that anyone else is running the show behind him. But even if that were so, I would vastly prefer him to Twitler. And I'm fine with Harris taking over if he doesn't make it through his term, certainly more so than anyone Trump could plausibly name.

 

[Lazaran]

I do not believe he's senile; he has always been a mediocre speaker at best, nor do I buy the idea that anyone else is running the show behind him. But even if that were so, I would vastly prefer him to Twitler. And I'm fine with Harris taking over if he doesn't make it through his term, certainly more so than anyone Trump could plausibly name.

This ^ comment actually addresses another issue that people seem so puckered up about:

Some people act like it’s a deal breaker if President Biden can’t assure them with 100% certainty that he will serve out his ENTIRE second term. WTAF??? For starters: NO ONE can make that assurance; and furthermore, the person that many people are clamoring for to take President Biden’s place RIGHT NOW is Vice President Harris - who WOULD take President Biden’s place if he didn’t serve his entire second term.



It’s one thing to have concerns after that ONE bad DEBATE performance, and to scrutinize President Biden closely in coming weeks to judge whether it was something more than a one-off due to the VERY REAL / PLAUSIBLE REASONS that have.been cited, but inventing nonsensical disqualifying criteria reeks of people having an agenda.

 

[domroger]

This appears to be a LWCJ and I love it.

 

[dmallord]

Well, the truth is that Joe may be drifting into senility. That's one thing that can happen with advanced age, and the truth is that he's exhibiting signs of it. All of the cold/exhaustion excuses that have been given don't cover it. His campaigners aren't dummies. They would have seen to it that he entered the debate rested and fresh if that had really been the key issues. The debate was known to be a really big deal.

But, yes, Trump is just off his rocker bonkers (and only three years behind Biden in age, so age isn't a true differentiating factor between them). There are so many more good aspects to Biden and rotten ones to Trump that there's no excuse for a rational person not to easily be able to make a choice between them, given that they are the two serious options.

Drifting into senility can be somewhat subjective. As I get older, I have some moments when I don't remember names, dates, and places as quickly as I used to. However, this is not uncommon. Joe doesn't show clear signs of senility. If he did, his family would acknowledge it, and with Jill's support, she wouldn't allow him to enter a state that would jeopardize our nation. This is not characteristic of Biden. Additionally, with the medical teams around him, they would also raise concerns if there were any issues, similar to whistleblowers.

Trump hasn't been rational since he was a child. Read up on his history. There is no rational support at all for him. That choice is so easy. Yet, people seem willing to accept that type of lunacy in a President. Who raised such people? Where did America fail?

 

[KeithD]

Joe doesn't show clear signs of senility. If he did, his family would acknowledge it,

Truth time. Yes, he does (which is natural), and no they aren't. He is stubbornly holding and they are supporting him in his decision.

And I take exception to your telling me I need to read up on Trump's history. You need to read up on contributors' posting history here.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Is anyone else just holding their breath??

When Joe says he’s ok with losing as long as he puts up a good fight, he gets a mean note! This time, I noticed that emails to the White House are stored. I knew that, I know I’m on ‘rump’s lists. He’s like an evil Santa.
Ahhh! He’s Krampus.. Rumpis??
Fuck that , he’s the AntiChrist. Start testing our nukes? Where?

 

[KeithD]

I do not believe he's senile; he has always been a mediocre speaker at best, nor do I buy the idea that anyone else is running the show behind him. But even if that were so, I would vastly prefer him to Twitler. And I'm fine with Harris taking over if he doesn't make it through his term, certainly more so than anyone Trump could plausibly name.

He's not gone yet, but he's going and this is still his first term. No, he couldn't make it four more years, in my view (and at my age and looking around at my friends, I do know what slipping mentally into dementia or Alzheimer's looks like). This alone doesn't give me heartburn. I've never thought he would still be here at the end of a second term. All along I've assumed that Harris was a mere heartbeat away from the presidency and that doesn't bother me. And it doesn't bother me if any other Democrat on the horizon is put in this role. I support and have always supported Biden as a man and as a president. And I'd vote for a sleeping gerbil (with a comparable staff as Biden has) if that was what was running against Donald Trump.

I am looking at the man, Biden, and determining that he needs to be sitting at the beach with his feet up for the next few years--if he has that long left. The fact is that his staff has already determined he can't fulfill the role of president and he still has six months left on his current administration. They threw in the towel when they conceded he needed to cut off official duties at 8:00 p.m. to get the rest he needed. The job of the president of the United States is a 24/7 job (I've been in a 24/7 national security job; I know how demanding mine was and it wasn't anywhere close to what the president of the United States faces). If you have to cut that off at 8:00 p.m. in this job, you are not doing the job. That, in itself, doesn't bother me. Biden has a great staff around him to get the job done as a team. It doesn't cut it to be running to be in the job for four more years, though. Old age constantly deepens. It doesn't go up the alertness scale.

This has nothing to do with the "but look at the other guy" Trump. In comparing the two (or any prospective substitute for Biden), Trump loses in every single assessment category.

This is about reality and honoring and being concerned about Joe Biden, the man--and what he owes to anyone at this time in his life and in the condition of his health.

 

[ByteMe13]

He's not gone yet, but he's going and this is still his first term. No, he couldn't make it four more years, in my view (and at my age and looking around at my friends, I do know what slipping mentally into dementia or Alzheimer's looks like). This alone doesn't give me heartburn. I've never thought he would still be here at the end of a second term. All along I've assumed that Harris was a mere heartbeat away from the presidency and that doesn't bother me. And it doesn't bother me if any other Democrat on the horizon is put in this role. I support and have always supported Biden as a man and as a president. And I'd vote for a sleeping gerbil (with a comparable staff as Biden has) if that was what was running against Donald Trump.

I am looking at the man, Biden, and determining that he needs to be sitting at the beach with his feet up for the next few years--if he has that long left. The fact is that his staff has already determined he can't fulfill the role of president and he still has six months left on his current administration. They threw in the towel when they conceded he needed to cut off official duties at 8:00 p.m. to get the rest he needed. The job of the president of the United States is a 24/7 job (I've been in a 24/7 national security job; I know how demanding mine was and it wasn't anywhere close to what the president of the United States faces). If you have to cut that off at 8:00 p.m. in this job, you are not doing the job. That, in itself, doesn't bother me. Biden has a great staff around him to get the job done as a team. It doesn't cut it to be running to be in the job for four more years, though. Old age constantly deepens. It doesn't go up the alertness scale.

This has nothing to do with the "but look at the other guy" Trump. In comparing the two (or any prospective substitute for Biden), Trump loses in every single assessment category.

This is about reality and honoring and being concerned about Joe Biden, the man--and what he owes to anyone at this time in his life and in the condition of his health.

The only issue is who can beat Trump. If it’s Biden, then all he has to do is last a few more months. If it’s someone else, that person needs to show that he/she can do it. Nothing else matters at this point. Down the road we can thank Joe Biden for his service to the country.

 

[dmallord]

Truth time. Yes, he does (which is natural), and no they aren't. He is stubbornly holding and they are supporting him in his decision.

And I take exception to your telling me I need to read up on Trump's history. You need to read up on contributors' posting history here.

Don't take it so personally.

I've read your posts along the way. My comment is directed to a wider audience reading here. I try to take an objective viewpoint and, at my age, allow a wide latitude for opinions. Well, except for two who show up here with absolutely Trump-lionizing blind-faith support. No salvation for them in my book. I can't help them that that firmly believe in obvious destruction on a stick or carbon water and death by 12 volt batteries. So, I won't mention any names to allow them feel they are productive contributors.

You–I feel a kinship for your views: rational and often thoughtfully given.

 

[PintlerMan]

The state our President is in, and how he's being treated is criminal, elder abuse is a real thing, if this where your GrandPa and this was being done to him, would you sit on the side lines and let it happen, or step in and protect him? To say you would rather have a man losing his faculties over and guy that isn't to run our country, honestly, you need to check yourself. You are not thinking logically. Nancy Regan at least protected her husband, this guys wife, she is not, and she should. It's embarrassing. But keep drinking that coolaid. watch this once good man, get trashed, just so you feel good.

 

[adrina]

The state our President is in, and how he's being treated is criminal, elder abuse is a real thing, if this where your GrandPa and this was being done to him, would you sit on the side lines and let it happen, or step in and protect him? To say you would rather have a man losing his faculties over and guy that isn't to run our country, honestly, you need to check yourself. You are not thinking logically. Nancy Regan at least protected her husband, this guys wife, she is not, and she should. It's embarrassing. But keep drinking that coolaid. watch this once good man, get trashed, just so you feel good.

Who/which party are you going to vote for?

 

[KeithD]

this once good man,

He's still a good man . . . a great man. Aging is natural. There's nothing happening with him at 81 that doesn't normally happen. There's no fault to him for starting to deteriorate at this age. And, yes, being under the pressure he is probably isn't helping in that vein.

And, yes, at his age and how he's showing to the world, if I was a close family member I'd say to him that he'd more than honorably served, it's not his job to stop Trump--that's the voters' job--and he should retire to the beach and kick up his heels for as long as he can enjoy the end of life.

 

[YDB95]

It's his decision and his alone. If he doesn't make it through his second term, I'll be sad but I'll have no problem with Harris taking the reins.
What does worry me is, to put it bluntly, I'm not so sure Harris can beat Trump. I think she could beat most other plausible Republican nominees, but the thing about Trump is his ability to rally the "hidden deplorables", who otherwise wouldn't vote at all. Remember, they're not voting for Trump because they believe he'll make their lives any better, they're voting for him so he'll make everyone else as miserable as they are. No one else in either party has the deadly blend of hubris, bigotry and absolute shamelessness that Trump offers. So they're already more likely to turn out with him on the ticket. If his opponent is a Black woman, that'll just about guarantee they'll turn out in record numbers, while her record as AG in California could depress turnout on the left. So it's basically a perfect storm, where we really need to stick with Biden.

Now, if Biden dies between now and November, I could see that benefitting the Dems. It'll show he fought the good fight to the very end, and that could rally the troops on the left. But if he steps down, he just looks like a quitter and it'll give the crazy right yet another reason to get out and vote.

 

[ll74]

It's his decision and his alone.

Yep! He has to be the guy to step aside. I think he should

I think anyone can beat Trump.

 

[KeithD]

I think anyone can beat Trump.

Which absolutely should be true. And it should be the voters' responsibility to make it true regardless of what Biden does about running.

 

[Lazaran]

It's his decision and his alone. If he doesn't make it through his second term, I'll be sad but I'll have no problem with Harris taking the reins.
What does worry me is, to put it bluntly, I'm not so sure Harris can beat Trump. I think she could beat most other plausible Republican nominees, but the thing about Trump is his ability to rally the "hidden deplorables", who otherwise wouldn't vote at all. Remember, they're not voting for Trump because they believe he'll make their lives any better, they're voting for him so he'll make everyone else as miserable as they are. No one else in either party has the deadly blend of hubris, bigotry and absolute shamelessness that Trump offers. So they're already more likely to turn out with him on the ticket. If his opponent is a Black woman, that'll just about guarantee they'll turn out in record numbers, while her record as AG in California could depress turnout on the left. So it's basically a perfect storm, where we really need to stick with Biden.

Now, if Biden dies between now and November, I could see that benefitting the Dems. It'll show he fought the good fight to the very end, and that could rally the troops on the left. But if he steps down, he just looks like a quitter and it'll give the crazy right yet another reason to get out and vote.

President Biden also may appeal to “Never Trumpers” and "moderate" Democrats and Independents more than Vice President Harris, so President Biden dropping out might depress those votes as well.

The combination of fired up misogynistic and racist MAGAts motivated to take down Kamala, coupled with the possible loss of some “Never Trumpers” and "moderate" Democrats and Independents, could prove deadly.