A query regarding content and taboo

KillerMuffin

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I've recently written a story called Stalking Tango featuring a woman I invented along time ago, rather reminisent of La Femme Nakita, only less nice. Anyway, the point is that the woman, Tango, is an assassin in the employ of the US Army (this is made up okay?) and she kills people for a living. This is her first appearance in a story in a very long time, and the only time other people have seen her. I hadn't intended to go farther with her because of the assassin thing. While assassins have been glorified in the movies and media, I don't think there is anything sexy about them.

Requests have been made to write more stories regarding her, and that's easy enough for me to do. However, my concern is the killing aspect. In the posted story someone died, but prior to the time the story occurred. Eventually, if I keep writing about her, she's gonna kill someone during a story, it's the nature of the beast.

My question is how acceptable would the assassinations be in a story onsite? They wouldn't be blood and guts detailed, but there would definately be someone dying, at least eventually. Any opinions about death being included in a posted story?
 
KillerMuffin said:
Eventually, if I keep writing about her, she's gonna kill someone during a story, it's the nature of the beast.
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Any opinions about death being included in a posted story?

If the killing is essential to the plot, then include it. If it can be worked around without damaging the plot, then that should be your choice.

If the killing is a fetish sort of situation, i.e. a "snuff" story where the killing is for some sexual thrill, then I'm not going to be terribly interested in it. Other than that, if the plot needs a freshly dead body, then I see no problem in writing the demise into the story.

If Tango were an Amazon Warrior fighting off hordes of invading barbarians, the question wouldn't arise, would it. You can't fight off hordes of barbarians without cutting a few to ribbons. Likewise, you can't be an assasin without assasinating people.

You could concentrate only on her sexual conquests, but that limits what you can show of her character.
 
What WH said. lol.

I will not post blatant snuff stuff. I don't feel it has a place on the site. However, we have posted several stories in which people die. Carl East wrote a very nice series titled "Death" which centered around a man who was the Grim Reaper part-time. Crystal/Flagg wrote a story with a necrophilia theme - a questionable topic - but it was so well written that we posted it. Nabokov's "Lolita" deals with the same subject matter as "Buddy Bangs A Teen Chick", but they're obviously not on the same literary plane. All sorts of people die in "Romeo & Juliet", but I'd hardly consider Shakespeare a snufff writer.
 
Always on the edge...

I personally think a lot of good erotica is on the edge, testing the limits. Like Laurel says...it's how it's done. May I suggest a couple of titles that include "death" as an integral part of the story. Sex Macabre and Desire Burn are both erotica anthologies with a bit of a sinister twist, but done in a way that shouldn't offend anyone's sensibilities. I find it useful myself to see how other's do it.
 
Personally, I think the story is the deciding factor in that. If the plot calls for someone to get ushered gently into that good night, and it's not just gratuitous blood and guts, then go for it. If body count is all you're shooting for, then I'd find another story... 8) Especially here. But, since this is an EROTICA site, that usually goes without saying! 8)
 
Go for it, Muff. :) Part of Tango's appeal is the finesse and strength she shows as part of her job. I don't find it offensive at all if she kills someone, but I also wouldn't care for any snuff stuff.
 
(bush and gore).sorry but someone pointed that out to me, it sounds like a discription of a gruesome porn movie.
 
Ah, the political jokes are a' flyin...

Someone once told me something funny. 8)

In their respective positions on entertainment, Bush is wanting to see less violence on television, while Gore is more concerned with seeing less sex.

So, in other words, Bush wants to see less Gore on TV, while Gore wants to see less Bush on TV. ;)
 
Moving right along....

Fascinating, Shadow, but getting back to Muff's original question, even murder and death can be erotic. Read some Anne Rice and you'll see what I mean.

She's romanticized the vampire genre to the very brink of erotica. I mean, when Lestat turned his own mother? I was sporting some major wood. ;-)

Jason
 
Anne Rice

Oh yeah...the scene in Paris at the show when the young woman is stripped for the audience and then "consumed" is wildly erotic (as vampire lit often was...from 1812-1850 it was the most popular fiction and stage drama in France). The passage in the book is even more erotic. And of course, we know that Anne Rice was writing barbaric erotica many years earlier in the Beauty trilogy. Wonderful stuff.
 
KillerMuffin said:
My question is how acceptable would the assassinations be in a story onsite? They wouldn't be blood and guts detailed, but there would definately be someone dying, at least eventually. Any opinions about death being included in a posted story?

In my Novel 'A Master's Ring'... there's been at least three murders by the main character, one amounting to an innocent bystander.

'Gray Shades of Evil'... was all about vengeance killing a pseudo-Texas Chainsaw Massacre family.

No complaints (except 1 on a different site for the innocent bystander thing but I like my diabolical conspiracies to be diabolical and not :devil: )

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
I'd add my two cents, but it seems that the question has already been answered well enough. Oh what the hell....never mind.

Like pretty much everyone else has been saying, as long as it's not the focus of the story, and it's not blatently descriptive, go ahead and whack as many people as the plot demands. This sort of category falls into stuff like racism, stereotypes, drug use, etc. It's the socially taboo stuff that draws our attention, though you will catch flack over it, and probably in the forms of flames and low votes, but if that sort of thing doesn't bother you, write it, let the Kitty Mamma decide whether or not it'll be posted and go from there.
 
If I may add my own two cents, I would just like to point out that the thread is 5 years old.
 
Equinoxe said:
If I may add my own two cents, I would just like to point out that the thread is 5 years old.

Heh. Well, my bad. So it is! I must be a little more tired than I thought.
 
There's an expiration date on threads? Shit, I'd better go find the ones I've been meaning to reply to before they go bad. :D
 
The_Darkness said:
Heh. Well, my bad. So it is! I must be a little more tired than I thought.

I wouldn't worry about it, the advice was nevertheless good and sound.

minsue said:
There's an expiration date on threads? Shit, I'd better go find the ones I've been meaning to reply to before they go bad. :D

Well, they don't quite reek of old milk after the passage of time, but sometimes it does seem a bit odd to give advice about a story that's likely long since been written.

In short, it's CV's fault.
 
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You mean that was the threads that were starting to smell? For a moment I was thinking those were my work boots. Thanks Min! You just saved me 6 bucks for new odor eaters!

I too shall blame CV.

And Communists. Damn dirty reds.
 
KM not only wrote stories about killing, she wrote about incest and all kinds of dirty stuff.

She must have been an assassin. She wrote about it and her name was Killer.

Hell, there's no telling what all she was into.

She ain't been around in a while.

Them Iraquis may have iced her -- probably because of all that dirty stuff she was into.

Ed

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Edward Teach said:
KM not only wrote stories about killing, she wrote about incest and all kinds of dirty stuff.

She must have been an assassin. She wrote about it and her name was Killer.

Hell, there's no telling what all she was into.

She ain't been around in a while.

Them Iraquis may have iced her -- probably because of all that dirty stuff she was into.

Ed

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Aw crap. I suppose I shouldn't submit a few of mine then. Damn terrorists anyway.
 
Tatelou said:
Just like everything else that's wrong with this world... Bless his cotton socks.

Well, I have a number of problems I wouldn't mind shifting the blame for, so I'm willing to go with that one; I love self-delusion.
 
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