A pedophile's dream

[rgraham666]

Here in Toronto, a peculiar, and rather sickening ad campaign has started up.

I've seen several bus shelters with ads for a pre-teen girl's fashion line based on Barbie™.

Every one of them has a girl about ten dressed in something from the line. The clothes all look like they would be more appropriate on JLo or Britney.

And the young girls are posed as if they are JLo or Britney.

Is this ad campaign running anywhere else?

And WTF were the people who dreamed this thing up thinking?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Here in Toronto, a peculiar, and rather sickening ad campaign has started up.

I've seen several bus shelters with ads for a pre-teen girl's fashion line based on Barbie™.

Every one of them has a girl about ten dressed in something from the line. The clothes all look like they would be more appropriate on JLo or Britney.

And the young girls are posed as if they are JLo or Britney.

Is this ad campaign running anywhere else?

And WTF were the people who dreamed this thing up thinking?

I haven't seen these ads. This may be because they are not around or it may be because I have not seen them. I have no young children living with me and I pay little or no attention to ads for their clothing and I pay even lesss attention to ads on bus shelters. I will watch and if I see any, I will also express outrage., I am very fond of children and I hate to see them abused.

 

[EmeraldKitten]

I haven't seen that particular ad, but everywhere ya look theres some kid wearing clothes that are highly inapropriate for their age group.
I told my 11 year old sister not too long ago, that if she ever started dressing like a hoochie mama, I'd put her up for adoption. I dont know why it's fun to make clothes smaller and more revealing by the minute for adults~ let alone kids.

As far as posing.. *shudder* Those people are crazy.
Those girls should be playing with Barbies and Cabbage Patch kids, and should still believe in Santa.

The people who think this shit up are crazy.
"Hey, let's get rid of innocence any way we can!"
Ugly people.

 

[nushu2]

Ya, they're in Vancouver too.

 

[Xelebes]

Haven't seen them in Edmonton.

 

[doormouse]

As far as posing.. *shudder* Those people are crazy.
Those girls should be playing with Barbies and Cabbage Patch kids, and should still believe in Santa.

Santa isn't real?

 

[matriarch]

Santa isn't real?

There, there Dor........*stroking your head with a finger tip*........as long as you believe in him, he's real.

Naughty Kitten, to frighten Dor that way. Tut-tut


Excuse the hi-jack RG, my apologies.
Back to the thread.

I agree with you and Kitten. I am constantly astounded when I listen to mothers of young girls, as young as 6,7,8...talking about the designer clothes they 'have' to buy them, because they won't wear anything else. And as Kitten says, these are just smaller versions of clothes designed specifically for women to show off their physical attributes!! What the hell is going on in society?

 

[doormouse]

There, there Dor........*stroking your head with a finger tip*........as long as you believe in him, he's real.

[hijack]

ahhh yes.... rub just a bit lower

[/hijack]

 

[CharleyH]

Well, I have not seen them yet RG, but will keep an eye out when out and about today and tell you later. I love deconstructing ads.

Most disappointing to me was a couple of years ago when local designer had a bunch of ads . . . was it . . . its hard to recall designer now, but ads were geared to 14 - 20 year olds. Girl looking like 14, with wet, pouty lips, posing younger in a lacey pink bedroom, on bed with legs spread. I just rolled my eyes, not so much for the connotations as for the thought "surely girls this age are more savvy then to fall for this." But then again, maybe I was just different at that age.

As for younger girls? Well, this kind of thing happens frequently in the states where preparation for the beauty contest seems to start at an ungodly early age. Its no surprise to me to hear this, since most girls love to follow fashion trends, and most advertisers will exploit this.

How different really, is it form the eighties, when Madonna first bared her navel? Like I said, I will keep my eyes open today, and report back Interesting though.

 

[oggbashan]

That ad campaign is running in this part of the UK as well.

Little girls want to dress like their big sisters. Bigger girls want to look 18 when they are 15. Women of a certain age want to look younger than they are.

Why not? I can be amused by 15 year-olds pretending to be 18. 18 year-olds are several decades too young for me I am not bothered by 15 year-olds' inappropriate sexuality.

One of my daughters was embarrassed to receive a 21st birthday card from the local night club on her 17th. I knew she'd lied about her age but not by that much. Who had to collect her when the night-club closed? Dad of course. Even at 14 I knew I could trust her.

Og

 

[DirtyJJ]

Those girls should be playing with Barbies and Cabbage Patch kids, and should still believe in Santa.

The people who think this shit up are crazy.
"Hey, let's get rid of innocence any way we can!"
Ugly people.

Amen to that.
Gross.

JJ

 

[ABSTRUSE]

As far as posing.. *shudder* Those people are crazy.
Those girls should be playing with Barbies and Cabbage Patch kids, and should still believe in Santa.

The people who think this shit up are crazy.
"Hey, let's get rid of innocence any way we can!"
Ugly people.

I totally agree, Children these days are not allowed to have a childhood of silly innocence, playing games and just being children. They have a whole lifetime to be old.

IF you look at life as measured on a ruler, each inch representing a decade, you don't quite have an inch and a half to be a child.
My apologies for not doing metric conversion

 

[R. Richard]

Santa isn't real?

Yes, Virgina, there is a Santa Claus!

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

My daughter is 7 years old and wearing a size 12/14 (she's not chubby, she's tall and average weight for her height.) I end up having to spend more money on her clothes because they have to be bought in more expensive stores. It's the only way I can find clothes that still make her look like she's a little girl. Places like Wal-Mart etc. pretty much only carry the Teeny Brittany Spears type clothing in those sizes. Even when she's 14, the only way she'll wear that kind of clothing is over my dead body.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I am constantly astounded when I listen to mothers of young girls, as young as 6,7,8...talking about the designer clothes they 'have' to buy them, because they won't wear anything else.

"Won't"???

What happened to "you wear what I tell you, young lady, and that's not open to discussion!"

Worked for my mum.

Why are parents so afraid to take a conflict with their kids these days?

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Doesn't surprise me, even though it saddens me.

What I really wonder about though is when parents got it into their heads that a child could dictate what the just "had" to have in thier closets? I didn't start deciding what I would wear until I was old enough to be able to afford my own clothes and even then, there was always a parental veto looming if I had been one to go for mini skirts or revealing tops.

-Colly

 

[Svenskaflicka]

"Curling" parents. They're so desperate to be their kids' friends that they don't dare to be parents.
I DID tell you about the couple here in Sweden who asked a guidance councellor what to do with their 3-year-old who DEMANDED that they should go to bed at the samt time he did, right..?

Kids have enough friends. What they need is a couple of bossy and mean parents who make sure they eat their vegetables, dress decently, and do their homework before they go out to play.

 

[Guest]

There are many issues here, some mentioned: societal, parental, social. But no one has mentioned that the driving force of those ads is money (spending it and making it). It's what advertising is all about in a capitalist society. It isn't that individual fashion designers or manufacturers really want little girls to dress sexy, or that society at large approves of it - the bottom line is making money, and damn the innocence of childhood if that's what it takes. Consumerism is insidious, and these ads (which I have not yet seen, but there've been plenty like them for years) feed it.

Perdita

 

[Colleen Thomas]

There are many issues here, some mentioned: societal, parental, social. But no one has mentioned that the driving force of those ads is money (spending it and making it). It's what advertising is all about in a capitalist society. It isn't that individual fashion designers or manufacturers really want little girls to dress sexy, or that society at large approves of it - the bottom line is making money, and damn the innocence of childhood if that's what it takes. Consumerism is insidious, and these ads (which I have not yet seen, but there've been plenty like them for years) feed it.

Perdita

Obviously money drives it, but advertising is teribly sophisticated. They wouldn't have the ads out if they didn't think it would generate sales and that leads me back to parents. If they believe the ads will sell, then they are more than middling certain parents will fork over money for the clothes. Kids, for all their consumerism don't make the money they spend.

I remember a show once, a long long time ago called Logan's Run. The premise was a society where you were considered over the hill at 21 and rather than stay on a s a burden to society you were euthenized. I always considered the premise hokey, but now? It does seem that society is moving more and more towards childrenhaving power they didn't back in the day and probably shouldn't.

-Colly

 

[Sabledrake]

It astonishes me, some of the stuff I see my daughter's classmates wearing to school. She's in 4th grade now, but even in 1st grade were little girls in trendy-tramp clothes. I'm just so grateful that mine is a tomboy!

Sabledrake

 

[carsonshepherd]

Ambercrombie & Fitch got into trouble a few years ago with an ad campaign featuring VERY young models in extremely suggestive, though not scantily clad, poses. The photos were taken in what looked to be a porn set from the 70's - with the cheap panelling and all - and looked so disturbingly like kiddie porn, the public outrage caused them to pull the whole campaign.

 

[Weird Harold]

Obviously money drives it, but advertising is teribly sophisticated. They wouldn't have the ads out if they didn't think it would generate sales and that leads me back to parents. If they believe the ads will sell, then they are more than middling certain parents will fork over money for the clothes. Kids, for all their consumerism don't make the money they spend.

I remember a show once, a long long time ago called Logan's Run. The premise was a society where you were considered over the hill at 21 and rather than stay on a s a burden to society you were euthenized.

Logan's Run was based on the premise of "Never Trust anyone over Thirty," rather than an age of 21.

Advertisers discovered very early that nothing sells toys, cereal, and clothes better than a whining, nagging child who "just has to have" something. There have been numerous laws passed since the fifties to limit advertising directed at children.

However, all is not lost -- I know of least two preteens are who more into the "hippy look" and looking for a tie-die, midi-skirt look; and finding it.

(Granted, the younger of my granddaughters would rather not wear a skirt at all (because she prefers bell-bottoms and other pant styles) and their mother has a lot of veto power over what they wear. But both granddaughters are fairly conservative in their clothing choices.)

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Logan's Run was based on the premise of "Never Trust anyone over Thirty," rather than an age of 21.

Advertisers discovered very early that nothing sells toys, cereal, and clothes better than a whining, nagging child who "just has to have" something. There have been numerous laws passed since the fifties to limit advertising directed at children.

However, all is not lost -- I know of least two preteens are who more into the "hippy look" and looking for a tie-die, midi-skirt look; and finding it.

(Granted, the younger of my granddaughters would rather not wear a skirt at all (because she prefers bell-bottoms and other pant styles) and their mother has a lot of veto power over what they wear. But both granddaughters are fairly conservative in their clothing choices.)

thanks Wh, been a long long long time since I saw it

 

[nushu2]

Society hasn't crumbled yet

 

[pop_54]

Must be a cultural thing again, US versus Europe, cos I'm with oggie on this one as well... what the heck if kids want to be trendy, let them, if parents don't like it, they can excercise their veto, if parents accept it, they can suffer in the wallet department... All kids must be made to understand the word 'no' but I don't think they should be dictated to in a harsh manner.

Business is business, and advertising is the best way to promote business... any company that lags behind in the advertising department is going to wind up making all the employees redundant... we all want jobs don't we, and we can't all work for Greenpeace.

I never understand this lark of banning all pictures of children being a way to get rid of all the Paedophiles in the world either... It won't happen, they're born like it, and just because they can't see kids images on advertising boards won't make them change their ways or go away... I'd rather they have pictures to wank over, than have to go out and wank over the real thing to get a fix... you won't stop their twisted desires by banning all pics of kids no matter how innocent in intent those pics are... I'd rather see more effort put into stopping child porn, and punishing child molesters properly, like cut their bollocks off as well as lock them away for a lot longer.

I'd rather have my daughter a bit modern in attitude and streetwise to the dangers of perverts, than having been wrapped in cotton wool to the extent she doesn't know the dangers... We've told our girl all we think she needs to know about the big bad world... from age 11 we made sure she was aware of the dangers of sexual activities as well as trying to impress on her that she was too young to try it... I think that's another mistake a lot of parents make, trying to hide the real world from their kids by telling them nothing of importance about matters worldly, until in a lot of cases, it's too late.

Kids don't want Barbie any more I'm afraid... they want to be little people, simple as that, times and attitudes change among kids... We shouldn't impose too much of a restriction on them just to suit our own purposes, we all want a sweet little girl in front of the fire playing with her Barbie dolls, our little innocent darling possession of a child, but times change.

And Mouse, don't take any notice of them, as sure as there's pirates, there is a Santa dear, believe me

Hey Mouse, you know why Santa doesn't have kids don't you??

He only 'comes' once a year, and that's down a freekin chimney.