A New Day

[BlackSnake]

I was sitting here thinking how stories seem so dated to me. The genre/categories cater to a particular group of readers/groups. In particular, interracial, gay, lesbian. To me and seemingly the majority, being in an interracial, gay, or lesbian relationship is no longer shocking. Do you think first of the category you are going to write in before you begin formulating your story ideas, or is it just a consequence?

 

[Vermilion]

I was sitting here thinking how stories seem so dated to me. The genre/categories cater to a particular group of readers/groups. In particular, interracial, gay, lesbian. To me and seemingly the majority, being in an interracial, gay, or lesbian relationship is no longer shocking. Do you think first of the category you are going to write in before you begin formulating your story ideas, or is it just a consequence?

It can go both ways. Sometimes, in writing for Lit, I have picked a specific category and shaped a story to fit in it (Incest springs to mind in particular). Other times the story has been written first and I've then allocated it to a particular category based on its strongest theme... so i say to you what I said to the person who asked how long it took to write an erotic story - it all depends.

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[elsol]

Categories.... waz tat?

 

[tickledkitty]

I usually just write and then decide what category I'll put the story in. They generally overlap, so sometimes it's hard to decide.

Though I don't let the category dictate what I write, it's always in the back of my mind, as there are certain categories I'd like to avoid. (mainly LW)

 

[BlackSnake]

Categories.... waz tat?

Nothing ever chances here, does it?

 

[BlackSnake]

Thanks, I was just curious. The stories that I posted here have been with the category in mind first. I just don't feel that's the way I will go in the future

 

[oggbashan]

I was sitting here thinking how stories seem so dated to me. The genre/categories cater to a particular group of readers/groups. In particular, interracial, gay, lesbian. To me and seemingly the majority, being in an interracial, gay, or lesbian relationship is no longer shocking. Do you think first of the category you are going to write in before you begin formulating your story ideas, or is it just a consequence?

There are many new readers joining Literotica all the time. For some, even just "ordinary" erotic stories are a novelty. The attraction of interracial, gay. lesbian and particularly incest categories is the taboo factor. It may be true for you and for many of us in the Author's Hangout that interracial, gay and lesbian relationships are no longer shocking and even part of our normal circle of friends and relations, but for some communities such pairings are almost unknown and still considered shocking.

The taboo and shock element is based on the norms of the community. I remember the consternation in the early 1960s when one of my distant relations in a rural part of Australia was the first woman to change her brunette hair to blonde. At first she was treated almost as if she had committed flagrant adultery. It took some months for her neighbours to recognise that she was still the same person despite her hair colouring.

One of my middle daughters friends is lesbian. We had known for years but she only told her parents a week before my daughter's wedding when she was to be the only adult bridesmaid. Her mother refused to let her visit the family home or to contact her younger brothers. Her brothers ignored their mother's wishes and kept in contact. It took eighteen months before the mother would speak to her daughter and she still seems to hope that her daughter will be "cured"!

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[cantdog]

Let us remember also, there are plenty of readers for whom the wrong kind of fantasy is a turn-off. I received an indignant feedback once because there was anal play in a story in the Couples cat, and he felt betrayed that I hadn't given fair warning. I bet there's a lot of people who avoid Fetish because they know they won't have a lot of fun there, and the same for the cats you list, BlackSnake.

Taboo isn't the only factor, in other words.

 

[Liar]

Never was like that for me. I have a story to tell. I write it down. And then it happens to fit in one place or the other. Or many, in which case I chose the category where it would be most well recieved. I didn't quite get that right either sometimes.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Og, a very sad story. Often blood can be so literally 'thicker' than water.

E=BlackSnake;25514985]Thanks, I was just curious. The stories that I posted here have been with the category in mind first. I just don't feel that's the way I will go in the future[/QUOTE]

I agree. When you start a story that's really Loving Wives (avoid) but has a touch of Non-Consent:caning: with a bit of Anal and mild BDSM - where do you put it.

I am not a fan of the tags or categories. The imprint 'Black Lace' has now redefined categories into such headings as 'Contemporary', 'Fanatasy'.'Historic - and such.

Seems better to me.

 

[cantdog]

Agreed, Liar. As much effort as it is to develop a notion into a story, what cat to put it in comes low on the list of things I consider.

But most of my other writing is written to a market, directly. They want 600 words on some subject or another. Writing with a cat in mind is a lot like that, you know.

 

[Liar]

Agreed, Liar. As much effort as it is to develop a notion into a story, what cat to put it in comes low on the list of things I consider.

But most of my other writing is written to a market, directly. They want 600 words on some subject or another. Writing with a cat in mind is a lot like that, you know.

Which is why I refuse to do that, unless I get paid.

 

[CeriseNoire]

I usually just write (Ha! like I've written lately) and then pick a category.

In my case, with the first or second story I posted here, I got a handful of angry emails because I hadn't warned them of the "disgusting" interracial factor. To be honest, I've dated men of various races, and the interracial thing just didn't even register as a factor when I was choosing. Then, when i thought about it, I decided not to put subsequent stories that might involve interracial couples in that category, because I feel that if I did, their races should be a central element of the story.

I do agree with Elle to a certain extent. Some people, be it in real life or in their stories, don't stick to one nice little theme. So of course it then makes it hard to fit in a particular category.

 

[tickledkitty]

I usually just write (Ha! like I've written lately) and then pick a category.

In my case, with the first or second story I posted here, I got a handful of angry emails because I hadn't warned them of the "disgusting" interracial factor. To be honest, I've dated men of various races, and the interracial thing just didn't even register as a factor when I was choosing. Then, when i thought about it, I decided not to put subsequent stories that might involve interracial couples in that category, because I feel that if I did, their races should be a central element of the story.

I do agree with Elle to a certain extent. Some people, be it in real life or in their stories, don't stick to one nice little theme. So of course it then makes it hard to fit in a particular category.

I worried about that with my Nude Day story. It ends up being a lesbian thing, but I didn't want to post it in that cat because it's meant to be somewhat of a surprise. I ended up posting in E/V and had no complaints.

I don't think the interracial thing would have occurred to me either.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

I worried about that with my Nude Day story. It ends up being a lesbian thing, but I didn't want to post it in that cat because it's meant to be somewhat of a surprise. I ended up posting in E/V and had no complaints.

I don't think the interracial thing would have occurred to me either.

In this day and age, why do we need an Interracial cat? From what I read, it's puerile - big, black dicks - and no attempt to explore the real issues.

 

[tickledkitty]

In this day and age, why do we need an Interracial cat? From what I read, it's puerile - big, black dicks - and no attempt to explore the real issues.

Because there are people who are still looking for it specifically.

 

[cantdog]

Niche market, then, TK. I mistakenly put one in there, early on, because I naively imagined that it had to do with the exotic. My Haitian woman is exotic, all right! But they really do want Big Black Dick over there. The story did poorly.

That story's gone now, it was published.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

I think the category system needs to be redone actually. You need to be able to write a story, and then tag it with all of the categories that it fits into. This story goes in Incest, Group, BDSM, and Gay Male. You wouldn't have to choose where it goes, you just tag it as all of them, and can then find it in any of those categories.

Well, that's the way I would like it to be

 

[Vermilion]

I think the category system needs to be redone actually. You need to be able to write a story, and then tag it with all of the categories that it fits into. This story goes in Incest, Group, BDSM, and Gay Male. You wouldn't have to choose where it goes, you just tag it as all of them, and can then find it in any of those categories.

Well, that's the way I would like it to be

That's a pretty good idea... Worth suggesting to our Lords and Masters perhaps...

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[BlackSnake]

In this day and age, why do we need an Interracial cat? From what I read, it's puerile - big, black dicks - and no attempt to explore the real issues.

sorry for laughing, but that tickled me....

My only issue with the cats is that there need to be more. Truthfully, I haven't read many interracial stories here on Lit that delt with race. They have been only stereotypical to me, but after all I am a black man with a big black dick...lol

What I think should happen is that burden should be taken off of the writer, and let the Lit gods decide in which cat should a story be place. At any rate, I am just going to write the story and not worry about where it goes.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

It would also be hell in a handbasket (or a bucketloader, more hell for your money) to recode and reorganize the existing stories on the site and have everything looking pretty for everyone who comes by to read a story.

It would be a disaster and a nightmare to try to set that all up right now.

(I'm arguing against my own suggestion?)

 

[Vermilion]

It would also be hell in a handbasket (or a bucketloader, more hell for your money) to recode and reorganize the existing stories on the site and have everything looking pretty for everyone who comes by to read a story.

It would be a disaster and a nightmare to try to set that all up right now.

(I'm arguing against my own suggestion?)

Well all the stories in the existing categories would simply be tagged with that one category, but authors would be able to go back and add extra category tags to their existing stories and all new ones would be able to be multiple tagged.

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[BlackSnake]

Well all the stories in the existing categories would simply be tagged with that one category, but authors would be able to go back and add extra category tags to their existing stories and all new ones would be able to be multiple tagged.

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That sounds do able

 

[BlackShanglan]

In my case, with the first or second story I posted here, I got a handful of angry emails because I hadn't warned them of the "disgusting" interracial factor.

*sigh* Dear lord. Every time you think that huamsn have made just a tiny bit of progress on the "rationality" front ...

To be honest, I've dated men of various races, and the interracial thing just didn't even register as a factor when I was choosing. Then, when i thought about it, I decided not to put subsequent stories that might involve interracial couples in that category, because I feel that if I did, their races should be a central element of the story.

I think that's the perfect decision. I wouldn't care to put a story there either if I wasn't trying to write it with race as the focus of the eroticism. Mind you, now it tempts me to shove "Will" and "Meer Kass" into "Interracial" just to annoy them - the races are "human" and "not."

 

[sr71plt]

I write across the board here--gay, straight, bi, lesbian, nonerotic. Some element I want to pursue with a story usually occurs to me first. And normally the nature of the element determines what category the story goes into (and quite often it's hard to put it into just one category) and also on occasion I start forming a story in my mind that I assume is in one broad category, but, in formation, hits me as being better to go in another category. I have a few stories here that are essentially the same story tailored in different category versions (just for the fun of it) and at least one where the hook is making the category ambiguous at best (to be supplied by the reader).

On the contests here, entering a story--or several--is usually the motivating element, and then I usually decide what board category I want to enter in and form a story that fits.