A moral agenda for Capitalism

[BoyNextDoor]

Watch this if you can, or if you dare.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

A Cure for Capitalism

 

[NeverEndingMe]

get a job asshole and stop collecting welfare

 

[Boxlicker101]

"A cure for Capitalism" is a ridiculous concept. Capitalism is a cure for poverty and other ailments of society.

 

[PoppingTom]

"A cure for Capitalism" is a ridiculous concept. Capitalism is a cure for poverty and other ailments of society.

That joke was good.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

That joke was good.

clearly you are a joke.

Capitalism is the cure for poverty but your kind is too fucking lazy

 

[Sean Renaud]

"A cure for Capitalism" is a ridiculous concept. Capitalism is a cure for poverty and other ailments of society.

The reality is captialism was cured centuries ago and nobody is even stupid enough to try it. The question is where do we go from here?

 

[Libsam]

I actually listened to the first link, it drew me in because of occupy in the title. I enjoy hearing anybody talking about the OWS movement, they inserted an interesting thread into popular thought. But homeland security and the FBI snuffed that zeitgeist... Yaay government!

I wonder what that guy would have to say if asked about government monopolies, where it's illegal for anyone to compete? Smells like stagnation to me.

I think free market is a self correcting system and we need minimal government evolvement to help regulate.

 

[Libsam]

The reality is captialism was cured centuries ago and nobody is even stupid enough to try it. The question is where do we go from here?

Thomas Jefferson said we would need a mini revolution every half century or so to keep the government in check

 

[badbabysitter]

I think free market is a self correcting system and we need minimal government evolvement to help regulate.

Yeah... I mean slavery stopped all by itself

so did child labour

so did the monopolies and company stores


the free market has never self regulated in the entire history of mankind.. why should it magically start now?

 

[Libsam]

Yeah... I mean slavery stopped all by itself

so did child labour

so did the monopolies and company stores


the free market has never self regulated in the entire history of mankind.. why should it magically start now?

That's where minimal government regulation would come in to play, so people won't do horrible stupid shit like enslaving others.

 

[badbabysitter]

That's where minimal government regulation would come in to play, so people won't do horrible stupid shit like enslaving others.

So.. the Civil War... was minimal regulation?

 

[Libsam]

So.. the Civil War... was minimal regulation?

At that time our government didn't have clear laws about slavery. We can thank the abolitionist for ending that institution, not government.

I feel the political system should revolve around Us, the people. Not the other way around, especially if we want to evolve.

 

[badbabysitter]

At that time our government didn't have clear laws about slavery. We can thank the abolitionist for ending that institution, not government.

I feel the political system should revolve around Us, the people. Not the other way around, especially if we want to evolve.

Abolitionists that forced the governments hand.. laws were created

that was direct government interference with a profitable business model.. aka slavery


the political system should revole around the people... not around the free market,.... because the free market will literally sell people unless forced to stop

 

[Libsam]

Abolitionists that forced the governments hand.. laws were created

that was direct government interference with a profitable business model.. aka slavery


the political system should revole around the people... not around the free market,.... because the free market will literally sell people unless forced to stop

Right, the government actually protected slave trade until a movement, marketing an idea, changed people's thought.

We, the people, are the free market!
We are the innovators, we bring change.

 

[badbabysitter]

Right, the government actually protected slave trade until a movement, marketing an idea, changed people's thought.




We, the people, are the free market!
We are the innovators, we bring change.

And this movement protested and fought and eventually got government sanction.. against the free market which had nothing to gain by abolishing slavery... in fact those business holders fought against government involvement in their sanctioned free market slavery

the people in that case were owned by the free market.... they did not own it... the free market had no incentive to allow them to be a part of it


the free market did not bring about the end of slavery... it endorsed slavery

 

[Libsam]

Everything in moderation.

Total government control is not the answer.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Right, the government actually protected slave trade until a movement, marketing an idea, changed people's thought.

We, the people, are the free market!
We are the innovators, we bring change.

But, that popular movement could have no effect save through a national, centralized, socially engaged, and highly militarized government. Which is not the libertarian vision of government.

 

[Libsam]

But, that popular movement could have no effect save through a national, centralized, socially engaged, and highly militarized government. Which is not the libertarian vision of government.

There are all kinds of libertarians, but I'm pretty sure that most agree that government should play a role in protecting civil liberties.

 

[LadyVer]

Interesting. Capitalism and morals combined is an oxymoron. Oil and water don't mix well. For a reason.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

So.. the Civil War... was minimal regulation?

The Civil War was about the location of the first transcontinental railroad. The war didn't change the status of one slave, the 13th Amendment ended slavery. Recall that Dred Scott made all blacks resident aliens with no constitutional rights.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's where minimal government regulation would come in to play, so people won't do horrible stupid shit like enslaving others.

Minimal government regulation is what allowed horrible stupid shit like that to happen in the first place....and is what allows it to continue happening in less fortunate shit holes today.

Why would it prevent it now?

That's like saying we need to get rid of the EPA so companies don't dump toxic waste in peoples back yard to save a buck........it doesn't pencil.

How would getting rid of government oversight prevent workplace abuse, monopolies and slavery despite that being completely contradicting of history? Esplain.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I posted it before. Thirty years ago I locked horns with the EPA over a drainage ditch the railroad built in 1921. The EPA called the ditch a freshwater marsh and wildlife habitat. It was a dry ditch that ran along the track forever, from Tampa to St. Petersburg.

To get their blessing we hadda dig a one acre shithole and fill it with native plants that grow in marshes....like the real marsh that existed on another part of the site.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I posted it before. Thirty years ago I locked horns with the EPA over a drainage ditch the railroad built in 1921. The EPA called the ditch a freshwater marsh and wildlife habitat. It was a dry ditch that ran along the track forever, from Tampa to St. Petersburg.

To get their blessing we hadda dig a one acre shithole and fill it with native plants that grow in marshes....like the real marsh that existed on another part of the site.

How does that make companies behave without any oversight or regulations?

 

[Libsam]

Minimal government regulation is what allowed horrible stupid shit like that to happen in the first place....and is what allows it to continue happening in less fortunate shit holes today.

Those businesses are playing by the rules set in place by those governments. That's not capitalism's fault, those governments are not protecting their people.

That's like saying we need to get rid of the EPA so companies don't dump toxic waste in peoples back yard to save a buck........it doesn't pencil.

No, it's not. The EPA should set industrial standards.

How would getting rid of government oversight prevent workplace abuse, monopolies and slavery despite that being completely contradicting of history? Esplain.

I never said we should get rid of government oversight.