kurt_jester
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- Apr 7, 2009
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"a lower dumbness" anagrams to "burdensome laws", which is what the tension felt by posters and fans is really about.
i've seen some ranting comments in different threads regarding dissatisfaction with moderation "techniques". i don't really have a bitch about it personally, as all i ever show is armpits and arse cheeks
. but my friends who share their lives and bodies in this forum have a greater vesting in this matter. thus i am motivated to explore it.
i did a little digging about what this controversy is about. i assumed that it was about age verification, and the matter could be bypassed by making literotica a pay site, even for a modest yearly fee. i love the forum so much that i would pay $3 us per month to use it. but i don't think that age verification is the issue here.
the us government in its boundless desire to babysit every sentient mind and body within its reach, exists to enact ridiculous laws that place unreasonable requirements on people and organizations. one such asinine restriction on the personal liberties of it's citizens is 18 u.s.c. section 2257, which requires the people who produce or publish/distribute sexually-explicit content to keep onerous records of the ages and identities of all people photographically depicted in said sexually-explicit content. so hotchick47 posts a picture of her hoochie on an am pic board (any board, not just this one), and she now has to provide records that she was not a minor when it was taken, and that she consents to blah-blah-blah. she posts a picture of her bf's first 3 fingers filling her hoochie, and now both she and her bf have to provide records. then every person along the way is involved in that record keeping paper trail - from the people who hire and creatively produce the sexually-explicit content the people who publish it and distribute it - they all need to participate in this paper trail in some sort. the records basically need to be kept forever, or for five years after the closing of a business involved in this content.
who ever thought that porn could be so clerical?
literotica is "exempt" from 2257 because they do not distribute sexually-explicit material. but when it's members post pictures of their hoohcies and their bf's first 3 fingers filling their hoochies, literotica then becomes a publisher of sexually-explicit photographic content. this is a huge issue for them, as they don't have any record of hotchick47's age (nor do they have records of anyone taking pics of themselves with zac efron and david cook posters in their room wearing high school class rings and showing their own hoochie while laying on juvenile bedding).
brian smith shared an exchange with kaio about 'rolling his own' am pics forum elsewhere. this is a brilliant idea if it were feasible, but what he does not yet know is that if he is doing this from the united states (even on a server in europe) he would still be bound by 18 u.s.c. section 2257, with the endless liabilities of the record keeping bullshit. my guess is that he would be best suited to move to europe and then engage in such a business (according to the omniscient internet, denmark, norway, the netherland, and sweden seem to be the most lassez-faire. i've never done it, so i don't really know). i suspect he isn't that mad about literotica's am pics "enforcement" but more power to you if you are, brian
you can see more here in the internet-said-it-so-it-must-be-correct wikipedia article. i am neither a lawyer nor do i play one on tv, so i invite anyone with a qualified legal background to chime in on this issue. please clarify or correct me (do be a good sport and cite your sources).
all that said, the enforcement here has been excruciatingly and insultingly inconsistent. qui tacet consentit. latin for 'silence implies consent.' you can't be the oldest sibling placed in charge of the house and sit with your hand in the cookie jar until mum walks in, and then pull it out and say 'don't you know you weren't allowed to have cookies before dinner? i'm so sorry little brother that i have to take your cookie away.'
there's no shortage of threads here that have explicit content, but one doesn't have to look very hard to find them. don't allow it one day and then smite it the next. if moderation were executed with any reasonable consistency, it would be far less intimidating or insulting when it actually needs done.
i've seen some ranting comments in different threads regarding dissatisfaction with moderation "techniques". i don't really have a bitch about it personally, as all i ever show is armpits and arse cheeks
. but my friends who share their lives and bodies in this forum have a greater vesting in this matter. thus i am motivated to explore it.i did a little digging about what this controversy is about. i assumed that it was about age verification, and the matter could be bypassed by making literotica a pay site, even for a modest yearly fee. i love the forum so much that i would pay $3 us per month to use it. but i don't think that age verification is the issue here.
the us government in its boundless desire to babysit every sentient mind and body within its reach, exists to enact ridiculous laws that place unreasonable requirements on people and organizations. one such asinine restriction on the personal liberties of it's citizens is 18 u.s.c. section 2257, which requires the people who produce or publish/distribute sexually-explicit content to keep onerous records of the ages and identities of all people photographically depicted in said sexually-explicit content. so hotchick47 posts a picture of her hoochie on an am pic board (any board, not just this one), and she now has to provide records that she was not a minor when it was taken, and that she consents to blah-blah-blah. she posts a picture of her bf's first 3 fingers filling her hoochie, and now both she and her bf have to provide records. then every person along the way is involved in that record keeping paper trail - from the people who hire and creatively produce the sexually-explicit content the people who publish it and distribute it - they all need to participate in this paper trail in some sort. the records basically need to be kept forever, or for five years after the closing of a business involved in this content.
who ever thought that porn could be so clerical?
literotica is "exempt" from 2257 because they do not distribute sexually-explicit material. but when it's members post pictures of their hoohcies and their bf's first 3 fingers filling their hoochies, literotica then becomes a publisher of sexually-explicit photographic content. this is a huge issue for them, as they don't have any record of hotchick47's age (nor do they have records of anyone taking pics of themselves with zac efron and david cook posters in their room wearing high school class rings and showing their own hoochie while laying on juvenile bedding).
brian smith shared an exchange with kaio about 'rolling his own' am pics forum elsewhere. this is a brilliant idea if it were feasible, but what he does not yet know is that if he is doing this from the united states (even on a server in europe) he would still be bound by 18 u.s.c. section 2257, with the endless liabilities of the record keeping bullshit. my guess is that he would be best suited to move to europe and then engage in such a business (according to the omniscient internet, denmark, norway, the netherland, and sweden seem to be the most lassez-faire. i've never done it, so i don't really know). i suspect he isn't that mad about literotica's am pics "enforcement"
but more power to you if you are, brian you can see more here in the internet-said-it-so-it-must-be-correct wikipedia article. i am neither a lawyer nor do i play one on tv, so i invite anyone with a qualified legal background to chime in on this issue. please clarify or correct me (do be a good sport and cite your sources).
all that said, the enforcement here has been excruciatingly and insultingly inconsistent. qui tacet consentit. latin for 'silence implies consent.' you can't be the oldest sibling placed in charge of the house and sit with your hand in the cookie jar until mum walks in, and then pull it out and say 'don't you know you weren't allowed to have cookies before dinner? i'm so sorry little brother that i have to take your cookie away.'
there's no shortage of threads here that have explicit content, but one doesn't have to look very hard to find them. don't allow it one day and then smite it the next. if moderation were executed with any reasonable consistency, it would be far less intimidating or insulting when it actually needs done.
