a little survey,... i'd like to see the answers i get,...

[lala]

What is a lie?
Why do we lie?
When do we lie?
How do we lie?
Can you tell when someone is lying?
Is there such a thing as a "good" lie?
What are the consequences when we lie to ourselves or to others?
Are there cultural consequences from our "private" lies? (and what are they)

thanx for all your answers,... i think they'll be good,... and feel free to get off-topic, but still be on, ya know?

 

[Bobtoad777]

What is a lie?

Usually a hoirzontal position

Why do we lie?

Cause we need sleep

When do we lie?

Usually at nght unless we work night shift, then we lie in the day

How do we lie?

I usually lie on my right side facing the wall

Can you tell when someone is lying?

Usally the horizontal postion gives it away

Is there such a thing as a "good" lie?

Yeah thats when no body bothers you and theres no loud noises for a good 6-8 hours

What are the consequences when we lie to ourselves or to others?

I always lie by myself and havent found any conswequences unless I forget to turn on my alarm clock

as for the other ill let you know if i get married

Are there cultural consequences from our "private" lies? (and what are they)

Well there is always the time zone factor

 

[Siren]

OMG Bobtoad that was so funny....

 

[Rosebud]

sorry lala but i have to tell bobtoad...that was great!!!! very good. you had me ROFLMAO

 

[forgetunome]

What Rosebud said....

Originally posted by Rosebud
sorry lala but i have to tell bobtoad...that was great!!!! very good. you had me ROFLMAO

I'm sorry too lala but, I read yours and I started trying to think about it when I scrolled down and read Bobtoads I laughed so hard! The horizontal never even crossed my mind until I started reading his.

It's a hard topic you're asking about. I think in most cases honesty is the best policy. But, I think if you don't want to hurt someone such as when they are wearing something that you can tell they really like and it isn't anything that you would ever consider and think "yuck" that it's okay to say something nice. So I guess why do we lie...to spare someones feelings.

 

[Carl East]

1) What is a lie: A fabrication of the truth.

2) Why do we lie: This one is a little more complex, I believe we sometimes have to lie. To give you a for instance, (The partner asks you if she's getting fat) if you tell her the truth, you are going to hurt her feelings, so you lie to protect her.

3) When do we lie: Only when it serves our purpose, either for protection or to get out of some mess we seemed to have fallen into.

4) How do we lie: Very badly, in most cases.

5) Can you tell when someone is lying: Yes, there are quite a few ways of telling if someone is lying, as long as you know what to look for. One tell tell sign is eye contact, if the person telling the lie finds it impossible to look you in the eyes, they could be lying. Of course, some people find it hard to look at the person they are talking too, so this is not fulproof. Another way to know, is to watch and see how uncomfortable the person lying appears, if they are looking at there feet, getting worked up, or seem to be trying very hard to sound sincere, that could point to a liar.

6) Is there such a thing as a "good" lie: Definately, take for instance a time when you have to call a friend on the phone, to tell them their spouse has had an accident. I seriously doubt anyone would say "he's broken his neck, and is not likely to survive the night" They are more likely to say "he's in intensive care, and needs you." Sometimes of course a good lie can save lives, take for instance a hostage situation. The lies that are made under the guise of negotiation, can and have saved lives.

7) What are the consequences when we lie to ourselves or to others: They can be quite dramatic, when we lie to ourselves, like when we say I haven't got a drink problem, we don't seem to be able to admit we have a problem until it's too late. And when we lie to others, we feel guilt, at least we do if we are basically honest people.

Carl.

 

[Bobtoad777]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you meant that kind of lieing

 

[lala]

bob- i'm glad you made a funny, i think it was worthwile,... and i've seen some very good examples, i want to hear more!

siren- i'm a lady! i don't remember which little thing,.. but you can e-mail me,...

 

[Bobtoad777]

lala,

sorry for making fun of your thread, I apologize for being an ass

 

[lala]

i said i liked it what do you want from me?
i can't take it anymore!!!!!

(LMFAO)

 

[Bobtoad777]

ok, my bad, i thought I read sacrasm in your remarks, damn I hate trying to figure out the emotion behind the written word,


now people on with the lies.

 

[April]

Damn, bobtoad, I'm ROFL

Good one.

 

[wolfy]

There are many types of lies I think. Lies you do for personal gain or to trick someone...those are bad....lies because you are embarresed about something...not great but not neccesarilly bad.....lies to help someone or reduce how much someone is hurt....good lies methinks. Random lies you just don't think about before you say them and then don't correct...which can start a chain reaction of later lies because you don't want to be caught in the earlier lie.

I don't think all lies are bad but I try to avoid them if I can. Sometimes if i'm embarresed about something I'll make a half-lie...and also you may not even know you are lying to someone if you are lying to yourself as well.

I would rather someone tell me the truth then a lie. I think most people would. I think someone lying to you can make you feel they think you are stupid. Especially if they do it badly. I can't always tell when a person is lying. I trust people untill they give me a reason not to. Once I catch someone lying to me I don't ever totally trust them again.

As for lying to yourself I think it's bad but not something we have much control over. If you really want to believe something is true that much you may have a hard time accepting reality. If you lie to yourself it's easy for that lie to carry over to other people which could eventually lead to them not trusting you.

I'm gonna stay away from cultural consequences. I think it would be great if we had truth collars for all politicians that they had to wear when speaking. Would make the debates alot more fun!

 

[Alyrahh]

2) Why do we lie: This one is a little more complex, I believe we sometimes have to lie. To give you a for instance, (The partner asks you if she's getting fat) if you tell her the truth, you are going to hurt her feelings, so you lie to protect her.

Carl, I noticed you were fidgeting a little while saying this, and too, your eyes were diverted to your feet. I have the suspicious feeling that you were lying. It would be my opinion, that you don't lie to protect her in this instance, but in fact, lie to protect yourself from her wrath.

 

[Carl East]

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Carl, I noticed you were fidgeting a little while saying this, and too, your eyes were diverted to your feet. I have the suspicious feeling that you were lying. It would be my opinion, that you don't lie to protect her in this instance, but in fact, lie to protect yourself from her wrath. [/B][/QUOTE]

To say I never lie, would be a lie in itself, but I try to be as honest as possible. As for watching my feet, I couldn't type if I did that.lol

Carl.

 

[Xander]

1) What is a lie: A fabrication of the truth.

Amen Carl!!

2) Why do we lie: This one is a little more complex, I believe we sometimes have to lie. To give you a for instance, (The partner asks you if she's getting fat) if you tell her the truth, you are going to hurt her feelings, so you lie to protect her.

Amen again, and it sure as hell beats saying: "But of course you are, Chunky-Butt. Now role in some flour so I can find the wet spot."

3) When do we lie: Only when it serves our purpose, either for protection or to get out of some mess we seemed to have fallen into.

Correct again Carl. (He's a smart one isn't he). But I've known people who lies just for the fun of it. Which doesn't make any sense, does it?

4) How do we lie: Very badly, in most cases.

Not true. The avarage lier is actually very good at it. We just don't notice it. Which also confirms what I just said.

5) Can you tell when someone is lying: Yes, there are quite a few ways of telling if someone is lying, as long as you know what to look for. One tell tell sign is eye contact, if the person telling the lie finds it impossible to look you in the eyes, they could be lying. Of course, some people find it hard to look at the person they are talking too, so this is not fulproof. Another way to know, is to watch and see how uncomfortable the person lying appears, if they are looking at there feet, getting worked up, or seem to be trying very hard to sound sincere, that could point to a liar.

Nothing to add there.

6) Is there such a thing as a "good" lie: Definately, take for instance a time when you have to call a friend on the phone, to tell them their spouse has had an accident. I seriously doubt anyone would say "he's broken his neck, and is not likely to survive the night" They are more likely to say "he's in intensive care, and needs you." Sometimes of course a good lie can save lives, take for instance a hostage situation. The lies that are made under the guise of negotiation, can and have saved lives.

What Carl said.

7) What are the consequences when we lie to ourselves or to others: They can be quite dramatic, when we lie to ourselves, like when we say I haven't got a drink problem, we don't seem to be able to admit we have a problem until it's too late. And when we lie to others, we feel guilt, at least we do if we are basically honest people.

Carl.

Everything we do has a consequence. Especially lies. Regardless of the nature of the lie.

 

[lala]

ooh ooh!
when i found this little questionnaire i knew it would be perfect and you all have not let me down

as for pyrolisk- no i'm not a lawyer, but why rub it in? *L*

more more! again again!

i love you guys, this is great,...

 

[TN_Vixen]

I lied when I told that guy from Washington I didn't want to fuck him. (ok, sorry but that mpg's still on my mind)

I lied to my ex when he asked me if I came, and still do sometimes just to get it over with already.

I lie to my best friend when he asks me if he gets on my nerves ... well, only 1/2 the time, the other times I tell him to get the fuck away from me before I kill him.

shrug, a lie is a way to keep yourself protected in one way or another. Some people might disagree and say that they do it to protect others, but c'mon, you have to admit that your choice to lie involves YOU. It's a selfish conceit we all practice.