A letter to dear rgjohn one of the author who I love most

[oooyeahmmm]

Below is my mail to dear Rgjohn .It's been sent to him already .I'd love to post here to let all the authors know that i really love the story here and want badly to translate them and post the CN version on Lit. Hope i can receive more permission from u dear authors.Thanks for ur support and undersding to a English Major . Thanks much in advance.
God bless u all ~
Hope dear Rgjohn can see this ,so dose the other authors. Hope i can see more permission from the authors.
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Hi Dear rgjohn ,
How are you ! Hope all things goes well !
First ,pls allow me to let u know how i love the stories u created.It's really soooo hot .I hanv't finished all the stories by u yet, but i believe i'll one day . One of ur story i love is A mother and her son which is so hot .I almost lost in ur stories so that i can't help translating it into Chinese . I read ur stories day and nights,some time i can't help reading ur story when in the office,so exciting,but most time i spent on ur stoiry is at home.Now the story had been completed ,it's actually my vergin translated work. I’m here writing to u to ask ur permission to post it on the Lit here .’cause I understand what effort u make in the story ,how hard u finish ur work. I know I should respect ur hard work on this. I really have no commercial purpose,I translate it not to sell it,but just for personl fun and practice .I don’t want my translated story won’t be seen by others . Can I ask for ur permission ? Thanks so much for ur understanding .
Yep,also I should say sorry not ask u at first ,I didn’t mention the copy right first ,just want to translate it . Here ,seriously ,pls kindly accept my apology for not ask ur permission earlier ,hope it’s not too late .

Well, pls allow me to give u a short intoduce of me. Me, a big boy who come from Asian ,China. I love music,playing guitar and reading stories in my free time. I’m a English major ,so I love to read the English story very much ,when I found the Lit. and the stories here ,especially A mother & her son, I know I can’t leave here any more . Thanks for ur story to keep me stay here .And I love ur story and Lit very much .

Thanks again & best regards ~~
Looking forward to ur kind reply ~
My Emaiooyeahmmm@yahoo.com
OYM
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[Adi87]

Your email is precious for rgjohn... but I don't think anyone here is interested what you mailed him.

Also, I don't think your an English major...

 

[oooyeahmmm]

I don't think your an English major...

Thanks much for ur quick response.
Could u pls correct any of the mistake i made ? Or kindly pls let me know anything not appropriate i wrote ? But i am a English major,however.

thanks again .
OYM

 

[CeriseNoire]

Thanks much for your quick response.
Could you please correct any of the mistakes I made ? Or kindly please let me know anything not appropriate I wrote ? But I am an English major,however.

thanks again .
OYM

If you're looking for corrections, you can start with the above. As for sharing the letter you sent him, it does come off as a little strange, but if it makes you happy, why not?

 

[cloudy]

If you really want to impress someone, don't use text message abbreviations. Just speaking for myself, I would delete an email that used them, simply because they shout "lazy" to me.

Hi Dear rgjohn ,
How are you ! Hope all things go well !
First ,please allow me to let you know (sentence should read "Please allow me to tell you...)how I love the stories you have created.It's really so (DO NOT use extra vowels) hot .I haven't finished all the stories by you yet, but I believe I will one day . One of your stories I love is "A Mother and Her Son," which is so hot .I almost get lost in your stories so that I can't continue translating it into Chinese . I read your stories day and nights. Sometimes I can't help reading your stories when I am in the office, they are so exciting, but most of the time I spend on your stoies is at home. (there is a space after a period - ALWAYS) Now the story has been completed. It is actually my virgin translated work. I’m here writing to you to ask your permission to post it on the (cut "the") Lit here .’cause (cut "cause" - horrible english) I understand what effort you make in the story, (space AFTER a comma or period, not before) how hard you finish your work. I know I should respect your hard work on this. I really have no commercial purpose, I translate it not to sell it, but just for personal fun and practice . I don’t want my translated story to be seen by others . Can I ask for your permission ? Thanks so much for your understanding .

I'm not touching the rest.

Bless you for trying, hon, but if you're an English major, you have a long hard road ahead of you.

 

[oooyeahmmm]

If you're looking for corrections, you can start with the above. As for sharing the letter you sent him, it does come off as a little strange, but if it makes you happy, why not?

Thank u for ur corrections,however.
But,in my opinion, I don't think all the the words the guy wrote here are all correct .As we know,mainly due to the short and the instant writing here . Most important thing is ,i think, to communicate. Don't u think the language is a tool to communicate w/ others ?
Why i post the letter here is not to show how happy i am ,as u said,but to let most author ,if not all,to know that i appreciate their work and effort.I just want to let the authors to know i've no purpose to violate their copy right! That's all & enough!

thanks again.

 

[cloudy]

Thank u for ur corrections,however.
But,in my opinion, I don't think all the the words the guy wrote here are all correct .As we know,mainly due to the short and the instant writing here . Most important thing is ,i think, to communicate. Don't u think the language is a tool to communicate w/ others ?
Why i post the letter here is not to show how happy i am ,as u said,but to let most author ,if not all,to know that i appreciate their work and effort.I just want to let the authors to know i've no purpose to violate their copy right! That's all & enough!

thanks again.

It is a tool, yes, which is why its so important to use it correctly.

 

[Adi87]

Thank u for ur corrections,however.
But,in my opinion, I don't think all the the words the guy wrote here are all correct .As we know,mainly due to the short and the instant writing here . Most important thing is ,i think, to communicate. Don't u think the language is a tool to communicate w/ others ?
Why i post the letter here is not to show how happy i am ,as u said,but to let most author ,if not all,to know that i appreciate their work and effort.I just want to let the authors to know i've no purpose to violate their copy right! That's all & enough!

thanks again.

Yes a language is a tool to communicate, but the instant language which is used... is according to me a disrespect to an author. I myself am not an author nor an English major and am an Asian just like you, only of Indian origin. I said that I don't think you are an English major because an English major would at least know grammar. I am not trying to insult you or anything... just that the letter is of no importance to me, you already sent it to the person to whom it mattered.

 

[oooyeahmmm]

If you really want to impress someone, don't use text message abbreviations. Just speaking for myself, I would delete an email that used them, simply because they shout "lazy" to me.



I'm not touching the rest.

Bless you for trying, hon, but if you're an English major, you have a long hard road ahead of you.

Thank U Cloudy !I appreciate ur hard work on corrcting the mistakes I made .
I still hold my belief, to live a easy life.I also believe the Language is a tool to communicate .
I don't understand why so many don't like or tolerate a learner ???Yes,i know it's so terrible for a beginner to make so many mistakes .I'm wonering if u are a mother or a teacher? I suggest u not to be a teacher or mother,i'm afraid the babe & pupil won't have a better future .
To have a beautiful flower,try to water more !
That's All!

 

[oooyeahmmm]

It is a tool, yes, which is why its so important to use it correctly.

Thanks, I got it !

 

[Adi87]

Thank U Cloudy !I appreciate ur hard work on corrcting the mistakes I made .
I still hold my belief, to live a easy life.I also believe the Language is a tool to communicate .
I don't understand why so many don't like or tolerate a learner ???Yes,i know it's so terrible for a beginner to make so many mistakes .I'm wonering if u are a mother or a teacher? I suggest u not to be a teacher or mother,i'm afraid the babe & pupil won't have a better future .
To have a beautiful flower,try to water more !
That's All!

No more comments from me on this thread from now on.

You're So Dead. Pray boy... Pray

 

[cloudy]

Thank U Cloudy !I appreciate ur hard work on corrcting the mistakes I made .
I still hold my belief, to live a easy life.I also believe the Language is a tool to communicate .
I don't understand why so many don't like or tolerate a learner ???Yes,i know it's so terrible for a beginner to make so many mistakes .I'm wonering if u are a mother or a teacher? I suggest u not to be a teacher or mother,i'm afraid the babe & pupil won't have a better future .
To have a beautiful flower,try to water more !
That's All!

Bite me, asshole.

I have three beautiful children, one of which has her master's degree, one starts college soon, and the other is younger - all have tested in the gifted range for intelligence, as have I - something you so obviously know nothing about.

I also speak/read competently four languages.

I tried to help you. Go ahead, use your fucking text language, and I'll sit back and laugh while you make yourself look stupid.

Fuckwad.

 

[oooyeahmmm]

Yes a language is a tool to communicate, but the instant language which is used... is according to me a disrespect to an author. I myself am not an author nor an English major and am an Asian just like you, only of Indian origin. I said that I don't think you are an English major because an English major would at least know grammar. I am not trying to insult you or anything... just that the letter is of no importance to me, you already sent it to the person to whom it mattered.

Thanks Adi87 . I totally agree using the abbreviation seems disrespect to an author.I'll pay more attention to this.
But ,I have question for you , do you agree the one who speaks very good English know more grammer,even for a person who comes from an English-Speaking County ? I'm not telling i'm speaking very good English,I know i'm just a beginner and i still have a long way to walk.I will keep walking ,ignoring any barrier from outside.
Thanks however, i'll try to spell correctly to show the respect to the one i worte to .

 

[CeriseNoire]

Thank u for ur corrections,however.
But,in my opinion, I don't think all the the words the guy wrote here are all correct .As we know,mainly due to the short and the instant writing here . Most important thing is ,i think, to communicate. Don't u think the language is a tool to communicate w/ others ?
Why i post the letter here is not to show how happy i am ,as u said,but to let most author ,if not all,to know that i appreciate their work and effort.I just want to let the authors to know i've no purpose to violate their copy right! That's all & enough!

thanks again.

Well, you did ask for corrections,and they were given. I have no idea what "guy" you're referring to. You claimed to be an English major, and simply someone let you know that you did not present yourself that way. Of course communication is important, but most authors have a certain respect for the language, and so expect to see it treated well.

By the way, I did not say you wrote the letter to show how happy you are, but simply that there was nothing wrong with you doing so if it made you happy.

Now, as for your English, as I see, people tried to help. If there was to be no tolerance of learning, people would have said "Go away with that broken English!", but that isn't what was done. How do you expect to improve if you insult people when they take the time to offer corrections?

 

[oooyeahmmm]

Bite me, asshole.

I have three beautiful children, one of which has her master's degree, one starts college soon, and the other is younger - all have tested in the gifted range for intelligence, as have I - something you so obviously know nothing about.

I also speak/read competently four languages.

I tried to help you. Go ahead, use your fucking text language, and I'll sit back and laugh while you make yourself look stupid.

Fuckwad.

To you Dear Cloudy and all the guys replied ,
I feel sorry if I hurted you ,but I really have no thoughts to hurt anybody! I just want to speak out what i thought.
Sorry again and thanks much for your reply !
Hope others will understand.I won't delete and edit anything i posted here.

Thanks everyone.
God bless you dear Cloudy and others.
OYM

 

[Guest]

Well, you did ask for corrections,and they were given. I have no idea what "guy" you're referring to. You claimed to be an English major, and simply someone let you know that you did not present yourself that way. Of course communication is important, but most authors have a certain respect for the language, and so expect to see it treated well.

By the way, I did not say you wrote the letter to show how happy you are, but simply that there was nothing wrong with you doing so if it made you happy.

Now, as for your English, as I see, people tried to help. If there was to be no tolerance of learning, people would have said "Go away with that broken English!", but that isn't what was done. How do you expect to improve if you insult people when they take the time to offer corrections?

Well said, Cerise.

This reminds me of people asking for honest critique in the story feedback forum and then flaming the reviewer when they get their wish.

 

[oooyeahmmm]

Well, you did ask for corrections,and they were given. I have no idea what "guy" you're referring to. You claimed to be an English major, and simply someone let you know that you did not present yourself that way. Of course communication is important, but most authors have a certain respect for the language, and so expect to see it treated well.

By the way, I did not say you wrote the letter to show how happy you are, but simply that there was nothing wrong with you doing so if it made you happy.

Now, as for your English, as I see, people tried to help. If there was to be no tolerance of learning, people would have said "Go away with that broken English!", but that isn't what was done. How do you expect to improve if you insult people when they take the time to offer corrections?

Dear CeriseNoire,
Sorry again, i realized some sentence i wrote may hurt the one. Thank all the person who try to help me . I apologize for that.
Thank you for your reply which i appreciate so much.

I don't know how to say ,but just bless all you guys from another Country.
OYM

 

[gauchecritic]

I think you should cut the guy some slack here. It's not like he has a greek or latinate language from which to translate, which makes the job that much more difficult I would imagine.

Saying what you feel when you have intimate knowledge of the language is a far different thing from cultural translation of a foreign tongue. I think maybe ooyeah was actually being as polite as necessary in his own language which didn't translate all that well.

And cloudy? tut tut to you and a smacked wrist. What do we know you for? Speaking your mind that's what. Maybe he came across as insulting but give him credit for trying at least.

 

[cloudy]

I think you should cut the guy some slack here. It's not like he has a greek or latinate language from which to translate, which makes the job that much more difficult I would imagine.

Saying what you feel when you have intimate knowledge of the language is a far different thing from cultural translation of a foreign tongue. I think maybe ooyeah was actually being as polite as necessary in his own language which didn't translate all that well.

And cloudy? tut tut to you and a smacked wrist. What do we know you for? Speaking your mind that's what. Maybe he came across as insulting but give him credit for trying at least.

I did, in my first post. Then he wanted to bring my children into it, and all bets were off.

 

[unpredictablebijou]

I did, in my first post. Then he wanted to bring my children into it, and all bets were off.

Actually I got the impression that that was mostly addressed to Adi, but it was rude anyway. Or, more precisely, it came across as rude. I think that's an important distinction in an e-mail context.

Does seem like there's at least an attempt to be apologetic and diplomatic. My new stepmother is from Thailand and struggles similarly both with tact and grammar. It gets better...

However, OYM:
if you are freshly learning English it's very important that you diligently use proper grammar and spelling at all times, at least until you are fluent and have impeccable habits. Only after that should you allow yourself to use unconventional spellings and abbreviations and the like.

And to other folks in this thread, I'll mention gently that the description of this particular board is something about "got a question or comment for your favorite author? Post it in here!" That would lead an inexperienced newbie to believe that this board is for talking to authors about their work.

Silly newbies. But I'm close enough to being one myself to know how easy it is to break all the unwritten rules when you first start posting; one gets all excited, all overenthusiastic. One jumps into stuff too early, or shares an unpopular opinion by mistake, or doesn't quite have a handle on how quickly things can get intense in here. I could've used some gentle coaching early on (probably still could).

In any group of monkeys, there are standard primate dynamics. It's true in here, as everywhere, that someone well-known can put up a post or a thread that no one has an issue with, while someone freshly arrived would get bitch-slapped for the same behavior. Not so long ago, I nearly gave up and left because I hadn't quite figured that out fast enough.

Around my house one of the mottoes is "assume positive intent." If, in fact, it is a goal to attract and keep new contributors to this forum, (and honestly, I'm not assuming that that is an actual goal here) then immense patience and education will often be called for.

I am, unfortunately, accused of being guileless and overly optimistic.

sign me, with all appropriate friendly smiley faces and that sort of thing,
pollyanna

 

[flavortang]

This is an awesome thread and I hope it never ends. I can dare to dream...

 

[unpredictablebijou]

This is an awesome thread and I hope it never ends. I can dare to dream...

see, I can never tell if you're being serious...

 

[flavortang]

see, I can never tell if you're being serious...

That's kind of the point...

 

[unpredictablebijou]

That's kind of the point...

fine then. I'm bumping it. You have only yourself to blame, mr. sarcasm.

 

[Guest]

see, I can never tell if you're being serious...

I asked him the same thing once.

He prides himself on not taking anything seriously, he said. Even to the point of agreeing with outrageous political claims on threads just for the hell of it.

So - take anything he says with a truckload of salt?