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1. Payton Manning is the most overrated player in pro football history.
2. Tiki Barber is not a Hall of Famer.
I'll take Manning first.
For the past 5-6 years, the various football pundits at ESPN and columnists around the country have been sucking Manning's flaccid cock, saying things like "he's doing things we've never seen any qb do."-Stuart Scott in ESPN The Magazine
Like what. Throw for more tds in a single season then any other qb?
Big fucking deal. With the restrictions placed on defensive players as far as interacting with receivers, if a qb doesn't throw for at least 30 td's a year he shouldn't be in the NFL, much less starting. And it's not Manning did what Marino did which was obliterate the old record. Manning only broke the record by 1 td pass and that came in the second half of the final regular season game.
"Yeah, but Manning calls his own plays."
No, he doesn't. He gets the play from the sideline over the reciever in his headset just like every other qb in the league. The difference is that Manning then spends 20 seconds at the line of scrimmage shouting out bullshit and gesticulating widely pretending he's calling audibles.
The last qb who truly called all his own plays was Johnny Unitas and he never went through all of the antics that Manning does.
Manning showed Unitas and his family no repect when Unitas died, by kowtowing to league officials and not wearing black hightops in tribute. Manning later said he didn't want to risk a fine.
What cowardly selfish bullshit. He has more money then some small countries and even if he was fined the team would end up paying it for him. One good thing was that the Ravens qb at the time said "Fuck the NFL" and proudly wore black hightops in tribute and said he didn't give a shit about being fined.
But the last few years all of the talk has been about how Manning is the best qb in the NFL, with Tom Brady only being brought into the discussion in order to diss Brady.
Y'know, I'd always understood it that the biggest measure of whether you were the best in the NFL was how many NFL championships/Super Bowls you'd won. Individual achievements come in a close second, but they're second.
So, how many championships has Manning won?
None.
Fuck, he's never won a championship at any level of football.
When he was at Tennessee he got his cock sliced off and served to him on a plate by Florida every season. Tennesse only won a national championship after he'd graduated.
And since he's been in the NFL how many times has he been to the Super Bowl?
None.
He's never even come close, his Colts have gotten their asses kicked every year either in the AFC championship game or in the divisional playoffs.
Yet the sportswriters/broadcasters still bleat and shriek that Manning is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Right.
And those same writers and broadcasters give Patriots qb Tom Brady NO respect, with many saying that he is a marginal Hall of Famer at best. This despite leading the Patriots to 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 years and winning two Super Bowl MVP's.
Quick, how many players have been the mvp of 2 or more Super Bowls?
4. Bart Starr Super Bowls I & II, Terry Bradshaw XIII & XIV, Joe Montana XVI, XIX, XXIV and Tom Brady XXXVI & XXXVIII.
Yet Brady never gets mentioned as one of the best qbs in NFL history, let alone the best qb currently playing the game.
Manning is possibly the best at one thing, which is being the biggest choke artists in NFL history, though it could be argued that Jim Kelly has that title.
Tiki Barber.
Where the fuck did all of this talk about Barber being a surefire Hall of Famer come from?
I heard nothing of the sort until this year, and that was only after rumors of his impending retirement started swirling around, as well as rumors that he and teammate Michael Strahan were semi-closeted fags and butt buddies.
Here are his career stats.
Singularly unimpressive.
Given all of the rule changes that have given an unfair advantage to offenses for nearly 10 years, I'd say that Barber would have to put up fairly mindboggling numbers for at least another five seasons before consideration could even begin for his being placed on the HoF ballot, let alone getting elected.
One of the keys for being a HoFer is that you are the dominant/top/best player at your position while you were playing.
Barber has never been the dominant running back in the league and I'd argue that he isn't even as good as former Ginats running back Otis "OJ Anderson, who at least has a Super Bowl championship and is a Super Bowl MVP, which he, Anderson, didn't deserve.
I guess it's yet another in the endless series of NY Media assholes hyping someone WAY out of proportion.
Thoughts/comments/rant of your own? Have at.
2. Tiki Barber is not a Hall of Famer.
I'll take Manning first.
For the past 5-6 years, the various football pundits at ESPN and columnists around the country have been sucking Manning's flaccid cock, saying things like "he's doing things we've never seen any qb do."-Stuart Scott in ESPN The Magazine
Like what. Throw for more tds in a single season then any other qb?
Big fucking deal. With the restrictions placed on defensive players as far as interacting with receivers, if a qb doesn't throw for at least 30 td's a year he shouldn't be in the NFL, much less starting. And it's not Manning did what Marino did which was obliterate the old record. Manning only broke the record by 1 td pass and that came in the second half of the final regular season game.
"Yeah, but Manning calls his own plays."
No, he doesn't. He gets the play from the sideline over the reciever in his headset just like every other qb in the league. The difference is that Manning then spends 20 seconds at the line of scrimmage shouting out bullshit and gesticulating widely pretending he's calling audibles.
The last qb who truly called all his own plays was Johnny Unitas and he never went through all of the antics that Manning does.
Manning showed Unitas and his family no repect when Unitas died, by kowtowing to league officials and not wearing black hightops in tribute. Manning later said he didn't want to risk a fine.
What cowardly selfish bullshit. He has more money then some small countries and even if he was fined the team would end up paying it for him. One good thing was that the Ravens qb at the time said "Fuck the NFL" and proudly wore black hightops in tribute and said he didn't give a shit about being fined.
But the last few years all of the talk has been about how Manning is the best qb in the NFL, with Tom Brady only being brought into the discussion in order to diss Brady.
Y'know, I'd always understood it that the biggest measure of whether you were the best in the NFL was how many NFL championships/Super Bowls you'd won. Individual achievements come in a close second, but they're second.
So, how many championships has Manning won?
None.
Fuck, he's never won a championship at any level of football.
When he was at Tennessee he got his cock sliced off and served to him on a plate by Florida every season. Tennesse only won a national championship after he'd graduated.
And since he's been in the NFL how many times has he been to the Super Bowl?
None.
He's never even come close, his Colts have gotten their asses kicked every year either in the AFC championship game or in the divisional playoffs.
Yet the sportswriters/broadcasters still bleat and shriek that Manning is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Right.
And those same writers and broadcasters give Patriots qb Tom Brady NO respect, with many saying that he is a marginal Hall of Famer at best. This despite leading the Patriots to 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 years and winning two Super Bowl MVP's.
Quick, how many players have been the mvp of 2 or more Super Bowls?
4. Bart Starr Super Bowls I & II, Terry Bradshaw XIII & XIV, Joe Montana XVI, XIX, XXIV and Tom Brady XXXVI & XXXVIII.
Yet Brady never gets mentioned as one of the best qbs in NFL history, let alone the best qb currently playing the game.
Manning is possibly the best at one thing, which is being the biggest choke artists in NFL history, though it could be argued that Jim Kelly has that title.
Tiki Barber.
Where the fuck did all of this talk about Barber being a surefire Hall of Famer come from?
I heard nothing of the sort until this year, and that was only after rumors of his impending retirement started swirling around, as well as rumors that he and teammate Michael Strahan were semi-closeted fags and butt buddies.
Here are his career stats.
Singularly unimpressive.
Given all of the rule changes that have given an unfair advantage to offenses for nearly 10 years, I'd say that Barber would have to put up fairly mindboggling numbers for at least another five seasons before consideration could even begin for his being placed on the HoF ballot, let alone getting elected.
One of the keys for being a HoFer is that you are the dominant/top/best player at your position while you were playing.
Barber has never been the dominant running back in the league and I'd argue that he isn't even as good as former Ginats running back Otis "OJ Anderson, who at least has a Super Bowl championship and is a Super Bowl MVP, which he, Anderson, didn't deserve.
I guess it's yet another in the endless series of NY Media assholes hyping someone WAY out of proportion.
Thoughts/comments/rant of your own? Have at.