A Day is a long time in the Poetry List

[Khul Waters]

A Day is a Long Time in the Poetry List

Below are the voting results for my poems in the course of one day, the 29th of November.

Why give them? Well there is a certain trend evident. It seems I was unlucky enough to have three people vote on all my poems and unfortunately they didn’t like my poetic efforts at all.

I wonder why they persisted in reading them all when they clearly thought little of any. For my part, if I read 3 poems by one poet and liked none, I would go read someone more suited to my tastes. However they are clearly made of sterner stuff than I and struggled through all 9 poems in a valiant but, in the end, futile attempt to find one poem they could give more than a 1 to.

The only poem of mine not to suffer their distaste fully was The Spiral of Our Love. However, it is clear that it was not from a better rating from these 3 disgruntled ‘readers’ but the 3 extra votes I got that reduced the fall there.

I hasten to add I am not a poor ego-bruised poet. I write my poems for my lover. I post them in the public arena as I think they may be enjoyed by others. Yet I am seriously pissed that 3 (?!) people allow their lives to degenerate into such negativity that they would feel it necessary to vote 9 poems down.

I have had prior suspicions of such tampering but these ‘3’ were either stupid or just damned unlucky that others did not vote on my poems and muddy their traces.

I realise there is little any of us can do to stop this. This post is just to let these 3 ‘readers’ know that they are a waste of human genes. If you can’t live life positively and with honour then why are you among us?

A disgusted Khul Waters.

29/11
Title
Rat Votes Pos’n New
ing_____________Votes
Morning Delight
AM4.02__106__25th__3
PM3.98__109__59th

My Darling Sara
AM4.05__110___7th__3
PM4.01__113__36th

Struggling Ag. Fate
AM4.11___37___1st__4
PM3.93___41__86th

The Arc of Our Love
AM4.03__104__13th__3
PM3.98__107__60th

The Enigma of Time
AM4.07___91___5th__3
PM4.01___94__37th

The Lust in Me
AM4.05___88___8th__3
PM3.99___91__54th

The Phone
AM4.07__102___4th__3
PM4.02__105__17th

Spiral /Love
AM3.95___99__70th__6
PM3.93__105__85th

Words
AM4.07__106___3rd__3
PM4.02__109__16th

 

[Guest]

Polls, polls, polls,

Khul,

Perhaps the system used here is the same on used in Florida.

I watch the polls constantly,(obviously) often there are wild swings that don't make sense. I review a poem at #1 and the next day it is dropped from 4.5 to 3.8 and fallen 20 places lower. I watch a cluster of poems by one artist dominate the polls and march in groups of 20 or more all with the same ratings. How is that possible? Most new poems can't crack the list. When they do it's only for a day or two then they plummet.

I started writing the #1 thread because I found the entire thing strange. the first week I was on this sight TJ had all top ten spots and 43 out of the top 50. How is that possible. I don't think there is a conspiracy, but I do think some artist are popular over the entire site and have a large group of people who will vote them up, or vote others down.

Hey it's a popularity contest and in no way reflects the quality of the work.

Shrug it off, if it will cheer you up I'll review one of your poems

U.P.

 

[Khul Waters]

Smiles and nods at UP

Thanks UP for the words. However, I think you misunderstand the cause of my irritated kidneys.

I guess all of us have ego and would like to be seen as the world's best writer or poet but as I said in my first post to you my ego is well under control.

I write for Sara! If others like my writing then that is a bonus. If my poems never make the list then so be it! Laughs, I might bitch about the 'poor taste' of Literotica's readership but I would not be overly concerned.

My problem is in the actions of readers who are unable to leave the voting process to chance. To be blunt the figures I gave show that 3 people, or 1 person 3 times, took the time to go to each and every one of my poems and vote it a 1.

9 poems and 7 got just 3 votes!!!! (The other two had 4 and 6 voters) All went down - how far depending on the prior total number of votes there were for each.

I have already shrugged, UP. It just dismays me at the moment that people like that are out there in the real world!!!

Smiles, anyway I will not become them! I enjoy life and its pleasures.

Thank you for the offer of a review but that is unnecessary. However, based on your sense of humour, you might get a smile from one of my stories called 'Shopping isn't supposed to BE like this! Not to be reviewed but for YOUR own pleasure. (Well I hope so.) It is me. And it is Sara. Reading it will tell you why the Vandals and Goths in here will never be more than a passing irritation to my urinary system.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=29593

laughs and shrugs

Khul Waters

 

[daughter]

Khul--

I didn't miss your point. At least I don't think so. I work with numbers and I, too, studied the patterns on the list when I first got here. I experienced the same thing you're describing, but more consistently. Whenever one of my poems hits the list, almost immediately it takes a nose dive. And the rating drop has a consistent pattern.

The fact that I have a few there now, even one on the front page is a big time improvement. I have over 20 selections, I have never had more than 25% on the list at one time. You're fairing better in that regard. *smile*

As long as a poem does not hit the list(low number of votes) the ratings remain high. Once it hits the list, '1' is almost automatic. After 10 votes, as long as I don't hit the list, I don't get hit with '1's. Once a poem falls below 3.9, voting stops almost entirely while the reads slowly increase.

Yes, I spent a tad too much time learning the pattern, but once I did, I was able to laugh instead of being pissed. I can admit my ego gets in the way sometime. This experience reminded me that doing so is silly.

Think of it this way, you're not suppose to have too much glory, and there are some good doers here to ensure your head doesn't swell. They are dilligent. I suspect they enjoy the service they provide

Peace,

daughter

 

[Khul Waters]

Listens to Daughter

Yes Daughter, I sympathise with you and, as with you, I will shrug (as UP suggested) and get on with what is important to me.

I just wonder why it is necessary??? We are talking about a section of the Literotica site where if someone gets 4000 reads they would head the All Time list!!! smiles

Are some readers truly that desperate to see certain poems / poets head the list that they must do this? Laughs, clearly the answer is yes! And, as you again point out, they may be doing us a service preventing our egos from running rampant.

Goths and Vandals! Laughs, but please don't stress over my well-being, Daughter. I am content because their stupidity is not mine. (LOL I have a whole different lot of stupidities on MY list!)

and, in your own words,

peace!

I have touched mine again. She is waiting patiently while I type this. Laughs and goes to what is important in my life.

hugs

Khul Waters

 

[Debbie]

Feedback, go with the feedback I say.
I submitted to this site and religiously watched the ebb and flow on my scores deciding in the end that feedback was more important.
Just for interests sake I have been on Lit for a little while now and these are my poems votes/views.

Poetry Submissions
A damned love from the start
5.00 1 348 Non-Erotic Poetry 09/01/01
A deep Obsession
4.44 9 956 Erotic Poetry 09/01/01
A Fantasy for him .
4.83 6 852 Erotic Poetry 09/10/01
A Romantic Interlude
3.42 12 679 Erotic Poetry 03/04/01
A Romantic Rendezvous
3.00 1 484 Erotic Poetry 08/26/01
A simple rose
3.00 4 565 Non-Erotic Poetry 05/18/01
A Wet Dream
3.22 9 811 Erotic Poetry 03/18/01
Afternoon Delight
3.83 6 326 Erotic Poetry 02/18/01
An unfaithful Lover
4.50 2 203 Erotic Poetry 09/01/01
Arousal
3.75 12 373 Erotic Poetry 02/04/01
Belief or Not Belief?
5.00 1 305 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
Darkness take my hand
5.00 3 273 Non-Erotic Poetry 05/18/01
Debbie's Christmas surprise Poem
4.40 5 200 Erotic Poetry 02/04/01
Desire
3.00 2 258 Erotic Poetry 04/08/01
Despondent
5.00 1 74 Non-Erotic Poetry 11/08/01
do you know
4.00 7 344 Non-Erotic Poetry 05/18/01
Fatigue Drives me
5.00 1 173 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
Goodbye From My Heart
5.00 1 206 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
Graphic imagery
3.00 2 162 Erotic Poetry 09/26/01
Hidden evil resides in us all
2.67 3 178 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
I'm On Fire
3.33 3 352 Erotic Poetry 03/26/01
Insomnia
4.33 3 228 Non-Erotic Poetry 08/21/01
Insomnia again rules my life
3.00 1 49 Non-Erotic Poetry 10/28/01
Instant Attraction
3.50 2 231 Erotic Poetry 03/02/01
Life? Tragedy mixed with blessing .
0.00 0 158 Non-Erotic Poetry 09/01/01
Lovers Embrace
4.40 5 223 Erotic Poetry 02/08/01
Sho
Maree, My Little French Maid
4.00 4 231 Erotic Poetry 03/03/01
Mistress
5.00 2 223 Erotic Poetry 05/18/01
My Heart it Breaks
4.50 2 233 Non-Erotic Poetry 08/21/01
My Secret Love
4.00 1 242 Erotic Poetry 03/03/01
My Secret Lover
3.17 6 257 Erotic Poetry 03/03/01
Ode to my inner being .
5.00 1 195 Non-Erotic Poetry 08/21/01
Our love is fire
3.50 2 233 Erotic Poetry 09/02/01
Primal Urge
3.33 3 183 Erotic Poetry 05/13/01
Rainbow
5.00 1 185 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
Sexual Desire
4.00 2 247 Erotic Poetry 07/05/01
Sexual Satisfaction, My own Gratification
4.20 5 234 Erotic Poetry 02/04/01
Temptation
5.00 1 204 Erotic Poetry 04/15/01
When you make love to me
4.25 4 265 Erotic Poetry 02/04/01
Who am I?
5.00 2 179 Non-Erotic Poetry 09/08/01
Writing No
4.67 3 190 Non-Erotic Poetry 07/05/01


etc


As you can see not many have reached the amount to even tally up enough votes. I think you need 10. Many people don't vote.
But as a side issue,

on the most read poems I rate

no 33 a deep obsession 954 readers
no 39 a fantasy for him 951 readers
no 40 a wet dream 811 readers
etc etc

Feedback rules I say
Go with the flow

 

[daughter]

Hi, debbie

Both your tallies and others' say what we already know: far more readers read only and we're more likely to get feedback than votes. Your read to vote ratio bears that out.

Stop in more. I miss your comments.

Peace,

daughter

 

[WriterDom]

The poetry top list is wonderful for encouraging multiple voting. I doubt that it does much for a readership or you’d see a lot more of the same poems on the most read list. The biggest factor on the most read list seems to be whether you titled your poem with a number or the letter A.

Those of us who have been around a while are way beyond caring about who is #(whatever), or how many one votes we get in a day. It is interesting to watch the scores trend downward. Very soon, there will be no poems that will survive for more than a day with a score over 4.

A big thumbs up for U.P. for actually encouraging poetry discussion. Poetry is not a battleground where we need to dig our trenches and fight, but slow walks through magical woodlands and meadows, ending at the ocean to enjoy the sun melting its soft magenta into the emerald swells, embracing the best within us all.

 

[alice]

True fans

Hey, Khul.

It seems you got good company. Tigerjen has a following that keeps her own the list and my gurl, Ms. D has following that keeps her off.

Ain't that serious like WriterD says. I like your work. I'm here to give my friend some support, and I got enough to go around.

Keep it hot.

Alice

 

[KillerMuffin]

Shit happens. Welcome to the club. *shrugs*

You get used to it.

 

[Guest]

 

[Savage Kitten]

I just *shrug* it off

I've been here and have had stuff posted here longer than most of the more popular authors and I have rarely gotten votes and I don't think that I have been anywhere (within 2 or 3 pages even) close to the top 10 list.

so.. doesn't really matter to me

I mean, I do love the feedback and I do like knowing people are reading what I submit. But, I also know everyone's tastes are not the same as mine.

Take this poem for instance Jilted Cum it has been voted on 7 times and it rated 2.43. Now, personally, I like this poem a lot. I consider it one of the best ones I have written. But, that is because it is raw. It may be too harsh for some people to handle. Especially if they are looking for romantic eroticism.

As long as they keep getting read I'll keep submitting. I may never make it to the big time and see my name flashing in the marquis like some of you *sighs* but I am still content.

Sk~

 

[Jazzy2]

Let me show you raw

SK--

Sorry, gurlfriend. I'd rate this low because the rhyme sucks all the edge out of it. The message would be RAW if you used some words with grit.

The message is cool. Learn somethin' to do besides nursery rhyme and just how do you 'jilt' cum?

jazzy2

 

[Giggles]

I didn't find Jilted Cum to be raw, but I wouldn't compare it to a nursery rhyme. Some of the people on this board seem to think that if a poem rhymes that it can't be taken seriously or that it can't be raw and gritty.

Hey, J2! Here's a "gritty" rhyme for you.

you're an asshole
sit on a jagged pole

Of course, this isn't aimed at you. Just my pathetic attempt to take the nursery out of the rhyme.

 

[Savage Kitten]

Re: Let me show you raw

Learn somethin' to do besides nursery rhyme and just how do you 'jilt' cum?

jazzy2

haha so u don't like rhyme? well that's ok.. I have a special friend who doesn't like rhyme either but I still love him!

jilt (jlt)
tr.v. jilt·ed, jilt·ing, jilts
To deceive or drop (a lover) suddenly or callously. To cast off capriciously or unfeeling, as a lover; to deceive in love.

In the poem, she deprived him of his ultimate satisifaction. He may have achieved orgasm but it was under her terms. She did her duty and nothing more.

anyway, I'll see if I can work the rhyme out of it. I'm not apologising but, sometimes I can't help but to rhyme.

 

[Giggles]

Rhyme Time

The Charge of the Light Brigade

(stanza 4)

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air,
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack & Russian
Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,
Shatter'd & sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

 

[Guest]

I didn't find Jilted Cum to be raw, but I wouldn't compare it to a nursery rhyme. Some of the people on this board seem to think that if a poem rhymes that it can't be taken seriously or that it can't be raw and gritty.

***Giggles, my use of 'nursery' wasn't to diss rhyme. 'nursery' rhymes are perceived as light, fun, cute. I don't think SK was trying to create that tone.

Rappers rhyme and they don't sound like nursery poems so lose the wedgie. My point is the contradiction between the message and the delivery.

jazzy2

 

[Giggles]

"Some of the people on this board seem to think that if a poem rhymes that it can't be taken seriously or that it can't be raw and gritty."

This is an observation I've made in the last few weeks about other posters. Some have, in their own way, suggested that some poetry is less effective when it rhymes. But that's their opinion and their right to express it.

And I was stating my opinion when I said that I didn't find sk's poem to be nursery rhymish. I don't think it came off as cute.

As for the wedgie, I'll keep mine. It excites me. It feels delightful in the crack of my ass. You should try one, J2.