A completely contrarian view

[great lover]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

You first bro.

Stew

 

[great lover]

You first bro.

Stew

I am already resistant bro. I am doing instacart deliveries to several people.

 

[oggbashan]

I am already resistant bro. I am doing instacart deliveries to several people.

How? There is no proof yet that anyone who has had Covid-19 is immune to getting it again.

 

[great lover]

How? There is no proof yet that anyone who has had Covid-19 is immune to getting it again.

You're mostly correct in theory. In practice, I haven't got it yet.
I am like Matt Damon's character in Contagion.

 

[oggbashan]

You're mostly correct in theory. In practice, I haven't got it yet.
I am like Matt Damon's character in Contagion.

The more exposure - the more risk. That's why doctors and nurses are dying here and in Europe (and China).

 

[Botanical11B]

How? There is no proof yet that anyone who has had Covid-19 is immune to getting it again.

In any given population some people will be naturally resistant if not immune.

Just like some people will blow this shit off like a light cold while others drown in blood, phlegm and puss.

Not everyones ability to fight off a particular disease is equal, it never has been and there is no reason to think the Wuhan virus is any different, some will be more susceptible than others.

 

[great lover]

In any given population some people will be naturally resistant if not immune.

Just like some people will blow this shit off like a light cold while others drown in blood, phlegm and puss.

Not everyones ability to fight off a particular disease is equal, it never has been and there is no reason to think the Wuhan virus is any different, some will be more susceptible than others.

You're exactly right! Some people have peanut allergies and eating 2 peanuts will send them to anaphylactic shock.

 

[Botanical11B]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

That's what is going to happen already.

We're just dragging it out in the hopes that by not blowing out our resources (doctors, hospital beds, meds, machines etc) we'll be able to save more folks.

 

[oggbashan]

The only way to find out if you have immunity - is to catch it.

If you are NOT immune - you could die.

 

[HisArpy]

The only way to find out if you have immunity - is to catch it.

If you are NOT immune - you could die.

Correction; if you catch it and you're not immune, there's a 1.8% chance you could die.

 

[oggbashan]

Correction; if you catch it and you're not immune, there's a 1.8% chance you could die.

Or different if you have underlying health issues. My chance of survival is much worse than that.

That 1.8 % could be very different if the health service is overhwelmed and you cannot be treated.

 

[HisArpy]

Or different if you have underlying health issues. My chance of survival is much worse than that.

That 1.8 % could be very different if the health service is overhwelmed and you cannot be treated.

Changing the level of medical intervention doesn't correlate to current projections based on the actual numbers that have been crunched so far.

IOW, if you change the variables, then the sum will naturally be a different result.

 

[RobDownSouth]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

Your "business as usual" approach will overwhelm medical facilities.
Couple that with incompetent leadership in the federal government you have the possibility of hundreds of thousands of deaths, many of which could have been prevented by simply social distancing.

 

[dp4shelly]

We will all get it...

In any given population some people will be naturally resistant if not immune.

Just like some people will blow this shit off like a light cold while others drown in blood, phlegm and puss.

Not everyones ability to fight off a particular disease is equal, it never has been and there is no reason to think the Wuhan virus is any different, some will be more susceptible than others.

The China Virus spreads so fast and so easily that in time we will all get it unless they develop a vaccine. If after having it once we develop a natural immunity then we would be safe from this particular strain. It is the fact the basically nobody has an immunity to this virus that is creating the problem. It roars through society like a fire roaring through kindling. It burns until it runs out of fuel. The problem is that if everybody is sick within a short window of time the medical resources can not keep up. Social distancing slows it down but does not stop the flame.

Very vivid description of the death process form this virus: "Just like some people will blow this shit off like a light cold while others drown in blood, phlegm and puss." Harsh but true.

 

[HisArpy]

Your "business as usual" approach will overwhelm medical facilities.
Couple that with incompetent leadership in the federal government you have the possibility of hundreds of thousands of deaths, many of which could have been prevented by simply social distancing.

dudly, that's what he said. Without the political bash fest you included.

All he's advocating is a "survival of the fittest" approach. Of course no one knows if they're one of "the fittest" or even if anyone is, but that's not a consideration in implementing the contrarian viewpoint now is it?

 

[Orchidea73]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

If you cut your hand would you medicate it? If you are sick, would you go to hospital?

 

[HisArpy]

If you cut your hand would you medicate it? If you are sick, would you go to hospital?

Not necessarily.

 

[oggbashan]

Changing the level of medical intervention doesn't correlate to current projections based on the actual numbers that have been crunched so far.

IOW, if you change the variables, then the sum will naturally be a different result.

And the variables are many unknowns...

Being prepared is good. Prepared for what scenario? We don't know what is coming.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What if we stop the quarantine and just let businesses continue as usual?

What is the worse that could happen? Some of us will survive the virus, others will die. Isn't that how nature works?

The death rate is about 2% with medical intervention. However, without medical intervention it will be much higher. Something like 10% of patients in New York have been sick enough to require hospitalization. If COVID-19 spreads unchecked in the U.S., there won't be enough hospital beds to handle that flood, let alone enough ventilators.

So say half of Americans get it in the next six months, and 10% of them die because they can't be hospitalized. That's 15 million deaths. Bigger than the Holocaust. Bigger than Stalin's mass murders.

Business will NOT continue as usual if that happens. Lockdown is how we get back to business as usual as quickly as possible.

 

[HisArpy]

And the variables are many unknowns...

Being prepared is good. Prepared for what scenario? We don't know what is coming.

The variables are becoming more constant as more data becomes available. At 1 time we thought that the mortality rate was over 3%. Now we're getting more confident that it's probably around half of that. It may go lower but that's what we're preparing for.

 

[spacekowboy]

More callousness and dumbfuckery in here, I see.

 

[HisArpy]

The death rate is about 2% with medical intervention. However, without medical intervention it will be much higher. Something like 10% of patients in New York have been sick enough to require hospitalization. If COVID-19 spreads unchecked in the U.S., there won't be enough hospital beds to handle that flood, let alone enough ventilators.

So say half of Americans get it in the next six months, and 10% of them die because they can't be hospitalized. That's 15 million deaths. Bigger than the Holocaust. Bigger than Stalin's mass murders.

Business will NOT continue as usual if that happens. Lockdown is how we get back to business as usual as quickly as possible.

Which is the conventional view, not the contrarian one the OP posted. No one is saying that the contrarian view is the correct path to take. Only that it's there.

 

[HisArpy]

More callousness and dumbfuckery in here, I see.

You should have stayed away then. Or not contributed.

 

[ChauvanistPig]

More callousness and dumbfuckery in here, I see.

100% of these numbnut fucks will spread this virus further and cause more problems for us all.

No need for any of you numbnuts to quote or reply to me, I don't respond to numbnut fucks.