9/11 - The TV Special

[TonyG]

What are your feelings about this show being aired?

We all know that on September 11, 2001, terrorists attacked the World Trade Center. Filmmakers Jules and Gedeon Naudet were there to witness this tragedy.

They were working on a profile of a firefighter in New York City and his company, Engine 7, Ladder 1. Around 8:30 a.m. on September 11, the company received a routine call to investigate a suspected gas leak at an intersection less than a mile north of the World Trade Center. Jules went on the call. While there, he heard a roar from above and turned his camera upward, and captured the only known video of the first plane striking Tower 1.

They found themselves in lower Manhattan as the attack unfolded, and they captured unique footage from the area, including the only images from inside Tower 1, where firefighters were trying to get a handle on the dangerous situation.

On Sunday, March 10 at 9 p.m., almost six months to the day after the terror attacks, CBS will broadcast an extraordinary film, telling the story of that day from the perspective of those who survived it. The two-hour film will be hosted by actor/director Robert De Niro

 

[SINthysist]

I think it should be mandatory viewing. Lately, in the press, from politicians, and from board members I am getting the strong impression that the memory of what happened is merging into a continuation of the Korean/Viet Nam/US is evil/incompetent/sewing the seeds of it's own destruction mentality and it sickens me to no end.

It's time we end the viewing of the suffering of world-wide Islamic Fundamentalist Militant Bandits and display the suffering of Peace-loving, rebuilding our enemies, can't we all just get along, you're free to believe what you want to believe, just leave me out of it Americans.

 

[TonyG]

Your point might be vary valid about our memory needing to be re-kindled based on the amount of votes this poll has received.

 

[*bratcat*]

 

[SINthysist]

The votes that bug me

Are the ones that aren't sure about thier feelings!

 

[Weevil]

Re: The votes that bug me

Are the ones that aren't sure about thier feelings!

Well AJ, that's fine for you I suppose. I said not sure because on the one hand it doesn't bother me. I'm not going to watch it, but I wouldn't be offended by it's broadcast(We all know what happened, it doesn't get worse if we see it)

On the other hand I could see some of the Family members of Victims not enjoying the re-living of it.

So I'm not sure I'm ok with the broadcast.

 

[RawHumor]

Re: The votes that bug me

Are the ones that aren't sure about thier feelings!

Wow, I agreed with Weevil... I don't think that's ever happened before.

I do think Amereca could use a refresher on what exactly happened and who actually got attacked, BUT:

1. I'm guessing that these cameramen are making some money from this whole thing (I could be wrong) and it seems sad to profit off of something like this.

2. What Weevil said about the families having to relive the events.

3. Depending on how it's done, I just fear that there may be too much "Hollywoodization" of the whole thing - but if it's strictly done as a documentary, this point wouldn't be valid.

 

[SINthysist]

One would presuppose that the families are intelligent enough to turn the television off if the subject matter bothers them.

And I am in agreement with weevil. It doesn't bother me to see 3,000 people killed. 3,000 citizens of the world. People who were busily engaged in enjoying thier freedom.

Bothers me not one wit.

I, too, place no value on human life...

WE DESERVED IT DIDN'T WE EBW!

 

[Weevil]

WE DESERVED IT DIDN'T WE EBW!

I don't think so. Never did. You do though, which surprises me a little.

 

[SINthysist]

point by absurdity

or

how a passionate, caring liberal looks at the situation

or

just spy vs spy...

 

[Weevil]

One would presuppose that the families are intelligent enough to turn the television off if the subject matter bothers them.

And I am in agreement with weevil. It doesn't bother me to see 3,000 people killed. 3,000 citizens of the world. People who were busily engaged in enjoying thier freedom.

Bothers me not one wit.

I, too, place no value on human life...

WE DESERVED IT DIDN'T WE EBW!

As to the general theme of the post, the saddest thing is that I've proven many a time that I'm more pro-life(in the literal sense) than any Pat Robertson follower.

But watching the events of sept. 11th doesn't make those 3,000 people any more dead.

If the truth of the world bothers you then maybe you should stop living in your isolated safety and actually face the world.

 

[SINthysist]

I face the world on a daily basis. In fact thanks to 9-11, my business is better than it has been in over a decade.

But when I look at the world, all it presents me with, via the liberally-biased press is account after account of the bad things the United States does while witholding the bad which our enemy does. This undermines moral and causes questioning of what we do.

Showing things like the towers tragedy (which, I was lucky enough, or unlucky enough to see live when my spouse turned on the TV to put on PBS for our daughter. At that point only the first plane had hit...) really restores some balance to the war on terrorism and why it is important to hunt these thugs down and kill them along with thier suppliers, financiers, and enablers.

 

[Weevil]

I face the world on a daily basis. In fact thanks to 9-11, my business is better than it has been in over a decade.

But when I look at the world, all it presents me with, via the liberally-biased press is account after account of the bad things the United States does while witholding the bad which our enemy does. This undermines moral and causes questioning of what we do.

Showing things like the towers tragedy (which, I was lucky enough, or unlucky enough to see live when my spouse turned on the TV to put on PBS for our daughter. At that point only the first plane had hit...) really restores some balance to the war on terrorism and why it is important to hunt these thugs down and kill them along with thier suppliers, financiers, and enablers.

Actually AJ, as FAIR has pointed out most of the "liberal" media has been giving this war a free pass.

You see, what you see as withholding the bad that the enemy does, I would see as not reporting something that we take for granted. I know, that in the course of this war the Taliban will behave like the thugs they showed themselves to be when they ran afghanistan. The US should be, and for the most part is, better than the Taliban. So, it is more newsworthy when the USA shows it's Taliban-esque features than it is when the Taliban does.

Bush has a 90% approval rating, The big three networks are lauding every action the military makes and people who criticize the war are given the McCarthy treatment. The US doesn't need more imperative or permission to attack the people they've chosen to attack.

 

[SINthysist]

You haven't been ready you required daily dose of Dashle and lavy have you?

 

[Weevil]

You haven't been ready you required daily dose of Dashle and lavy have you?

Who the hell is Dashle?

And I don't read lav anymore. She's caught up in threads about eating pussy.

 

[SINthysist]

We must be the two most bored MF's on the planet...

 

[Weevil]

We must be the two most bored MF's on the planet...

You betcha. If I was still in the city I'd go to one of my spots. Here, I need to drive somewhere. So bored MF it is.

 

[SINthysist]

I'm going to go do some shooting when the little one wakes up. She gets a kick out of using the .22.

 

[RawHumor]

You betcha. If I was still in the city I'd go to one of my spots. Here, I need to drive somewhere. So bored MF it is.

Ahhh... you're just bored cuz I haven't asked you to flame me recently.


But wasn't this thread supposed to be about a 9/11 special or something?

 

[JennyOmanHill]

Yes, I would like to watch it

As a New Yorker, I realize that almost six months later, I have NOT yet finished my mourning. Each glimpse of ground zero brings the pain searing inside me again. I was NOT there that morning, but had worked near there for 30 years, and had celebrated at the Top of the World many times. I know very many of the victims second-handedly, including the daughter of a former co-worker of mine.

Another friend of mine was caught in a "fireball" after the first tower went down. She is still haunted; she is extremely angry; that event changed her entire personality, and she will likely be working on her "recovery" for the rest of her life.

Six months later I still pass my neighborhood fire station in midtown Manhattan where half the fighters were never recovered (among those, a cousin of a LIT member). There is still a memorial statue parked on the street depicting a firefighter in prayer and pain.

My life had been shattered months before the attack with several personal tragedies. Time trudges on, and the pain from those events has at last subsided. However, the pain I carry from the day of the attack is still there.

I believe we must face our fears and our pain. I hope to watch this show and know that I will be suffering with flashbacks of witnessing the events that day live on TV like so many others had. For me this is NOT an issue of what a country can or can not do, or should and should not do. It is far more personal to me. I need to finish my mourning. I need to work through my suffering and anguish, and yes.. my fears. I'm not quite sure if I'm really ready for it, but I want to give it a try. Starting next week, the first "temporary" memorials will be visible, especially the planned towers of light.

Ironically I'm scheduled to travel downtown this Monday, keeping an appointment that I had previously postponed twice. I know where my mind will be, but it will be my chance to try and move on.

 

[SINthysist]

Ah'm wid chew!

 

[Spinaroonie]

I hope they show the part where the CIA tries to tell Ashcroft about it, but he wouldn't meet with him. Then those agents who tried to tell him about it (over 5 months in advance) are then arrested for no good reason and only released after 9/11.

But they won't. That's too risky, that's too inflamatory- we can't DARE point out that we were warned several times...

http://infowars.com/saved pages/terrorists/CIA Cited Risk Before Attack.htm
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/913687.html
http://infowars.com/saved pages/Pri...01Sep22&node=nation/specials/attacked/archive
http://infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/us_planned_attack.htm
http://infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/india_reacts.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/629529_asp.htm?0cb=-21524124
http://www.msnbc.com/news/629529_asp.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/629406.asp

 

[Guest]

I ahve never posted on here before. I am a firefighter here in california. my department sent our urban search and rescue team there tha day it happened. i hope all that watch pay attention to the men and women that are running into and not away to save as many as they could. the fire service is truely a brotherhood/sisterhood. I was on duty and had just returned to quarters from a call. i watched as tower 1 collapsed. my heart sank as i knew how many of my fellow firefighters were in that building doing what they do every day........trying to preserve life and property. the next time you read about a sports player signing a multi million dollar contract to play a game.....remember those who do not make much and would do it for free, i did for a while, and would never change their carreer because they LOVE what they do. thanks

 

[Calamity Jane]

It doesn't bother me that the TV show is going to air. I rarely watch television anyway, and probably won't watch it. I watched the second plane hit the towers, and I watched the news 34 hours a day for a long time afterward. I still think about it almost daily.

It's ironic to me that 'most' people think that seeing something over and over makes you immune to it (such as violence on television) because it no longer seems real. Yet, this airing is supposed to 'bring it all home to us'. Whatever.

I won't watch it, I won't let my children watch it, and if my husband feels the need to watch it, that's his decision.

Syn, I'm curious about why you'd post a poll and then get pissed off at people who choose an option you disagree with.

 

[Spinaroonie]

i hope all that watch pay attention to the men and women that are running into and not away to save as many as they could.

Eyewitness: Firefighter heroism a lie

I stood next to a WABC Newscaster as she gave a live report. Most of what she said was nonsense. She claimed that rescue workers were pulling victims from the rubble. Someone must have told her to say that, because there is no way that rescue workers could even get close, much less pull victims from the rubble.


I got real close. I evaded the police and made it to the corner of Fulton Street and Broadway, next to the St. Paul's Church and only one block from what used to be the World Trade Center. Nobody, not even firemen, was closer than I was. Thousands of firemen were standing around behind me doing nothing. There was nothing that could be done.

http://www.samsloan.com/attack.htm