$6.00 per pound Federal Tax on......CHOCOLATE!

[amicus]

I am not, repeat not, giving up my beloved Cigarettes and Cigars!

This Pigouvian Federal Tax to modify behavior went over with hardly a complaint as the Federal Government takes another step towards totally controlling what a citizen eats, drinks, smokes or ingests.

I don't consume a great deal of chocolate, but the ladies do, chocoholics, they are, they even make movies about it!

Now if it were, in fact, chocolate instead of tobacco...being punitively taxed...imagine the uproar among the fairer sex...heh....


Amicus...

 

[Xelebes]

A little late for April Fools Day, don't you think?

 

[amicus]

If it were only an April Fools joke...my carton of little cigars went from $16.00 to $29.95 today, all because of Federal and State taxes to try to prevent people from smoking.

I say again, had the tax been on chocolate, a favorite of the ladies, all hell would have busted loose.

sighs....guess I can up the prices of my service yet again, let the less fortunate pay the tax, eh?

Amicus...

 

[TE999]

I find it beyond ironic that the new tax increase on tobacco products is intended to fund health care programs for low-income children, and low-income people not only consume the bulk of tobacco products, but also produce many of the children that need said health care, yet the state is dead set against smoking and is constantly hectoring the population to stop...

This is not unlike the Worm Ouroboros of mythology...endlessly consuming it's own tail. As I say, ironic...and straight out of Lewis Carroll.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

I find it beyond ironic that the new tax increase on tobacco products is intended to fund health care programs for low-income children, and low-income people not only consume the bulk of tobacco products, but also produce many of the children that need said health care, yet the state is dead set against smoking and is constantly hectoring the population to stop...

This is not unlike the Worm Ouroboros of mythology...endlessly consuming it's own tail. As I say, ironic...and straight out of Lewis Carroll.

Speaking of Lewis Carroll, this gets curiouser and curiouser:

http://www.speakout.com/activism/issue_briefs/1245b-1.html

 

[amicus]

Thank you for the link, was aware of that, but still others may not be...as you said...curious but ickening...



ami

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

There are even a few busybodies in the US and otherwhere who are propsing an excise tax on candy and other things that they consider unhealthful. I mean really proposing such a terrible idea. If they can require seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, why not?

 

[amicus]

Not that many on this forum will pay heed...but once a government acquires the power to act without regard to the rule of law, they can and have, do anything.

I can well imagine that when socialized medicine really takes root, all 'cosmetic' surgeries will be outlawed...and when there is no more free, United States to travel to....then what?

Sometimes I wish I did not see it all happening...but it is...and my children and grandchildren will be faced with tyranny...they will never forgive me, but I tried, I really did.

Amicus...

 

[TE999]

There are even a few busybodies in the US and otherwhere who are propsing an excise tax on candy and other things that they consider unhealthful. I mean really proposing such a terrible idea. If they can require seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, why not?

Leave us not forget the (proposed?) taxes on fast food chains...we can't have low-income folks eating in an unhealthy manner...and you better build plenty of fast food outlets in poor neighborhoods to be providing equal access...but we're going to change the zoning laws to prohibit fast food restaurants in low-income areas because the people are fat from eating there...

The Worm chomps on.

 

[amicus]

Ah, what a perfect socialist world it will be, ah just can't wait....

ami

 

[amicus]

Hey Cloudy!!! You out there? I wanna order a case of smokes from the Reservation, you up for it?

(I'm serious)

ami

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Leave us not forget the (proposed?) taxes on fast food chains...we can't have low-income folks eating in an unhealthy manner...and you better build plenty of fast food outlets in poor neighborhoods to be providing equal access...but we're going to change the zoning laws to prohibit fast food restaurants in low-income areas because the people are fat from eating there...

The Worm chomps on.

I don't see that much difference between tobacco and other things that are said to be bad for you. There are differences but the nanny state will focus on the similarities. How long will it be before there is an excise tax on red meat and coffee and bacon and candy and ice cream and other delicious and fattening things? The taxes on cigarettes and alcohol are already huge and fattening foods and other fun things will be the next target of those who are opposed to people enjoying themselves.

Do you think it can't happen? There are people trying to put punitive excise taxes on gasoline for non-commercial use in order to keep people from driving and make them walk or take public transportation. We have carpool lanes to keep people from driving alone and using gasoline. The power to tax is the power to control.

 

[Guest]

Hey Cloudy!!! You out there? I wanna order a case of smokes from the Reservation, you up for it?

(I'm serious)

ami

PM Zoot.

He gets his online, I believe he said, at a markedly reduced rate.

 

[slyc_willie]

PM Zoot.

He gets his online, I believe he said, at a markedly reduced rate.

You know, I should try that. Damn things are running close to six bucks a pack around here. If I can't find them cheaper, I may just have to quit.

 

[Carnevil9]

The irony is that these taxes will come back to bite the Feds in the ass. If they succeed in taxing people out of smoking, the average lifespan will increase significantly, and then the Social Security fund will be DEPLETED even faster!......Carney

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Tax Pledge Up In Smoke

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D979POSG0&show_article=1

Obama promised no new taxes for poor people. Read the article.

The Florida Legislature, which is Republican dominated, plans to add another $1 of tax to smokes.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

We raise the taxes on smokes while we pay farmers to grow tobacco.

Its all bullshit.

Every government that ever existed is a fraud perpetrated by rascals to get your money to pay for their sweet life.

 

[amicus]

JBJ, et al....mentioned on another thread, talking with my youngest daughter, my, 'baby girl', now all grown up and on her own...I was still frothing a little over the tax increase on my smokes and it didn't take long for a discussion to, ahm, erupt.

Like most of every younger generation, due in part, to youthful arrogance that they know better and can fix the world, and in part to the liberal indoctrination in the education and media world, like most, she is convinced that the 'government' is just helping people with social security, medicare, public education and even the Pigouvian tax on luxury items and my goddamned cigarettes. "You shouldn't smoke anyway, dad..." "Yeah and you shouldn't gobble candy, ya twit!"

Most people, according to the studies, remain of the left persuasion until they grow up and mature, somewhere between about 35-40 years of age. Well, crap, I don't have that long to wait for this one to reach the age of reason.

I couldn't even explain the evident fact that government, once it begins expanding in size and influence, never stops until the people revolt with the use of force to remove the bastards.

You might expect a darling daughter to cut her dear old dad a little slack, but no way Jose', I am a part of that 'older generation', you know, hopelessly antiquated, dumb and stoopid and a part of the problem, not the solution.

She is like a frog in a big black kettle on a camp fire, water is nice and warm and oh, so comfy...ahem...



amicus...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

AMICUS

Kids buy all the Usual Suspect bull until they spend a few years paying tax money to support the deadbeats.

Oh! You'll love this. THE USUAL SUSPECTS AND THE HOMELESS WINOS TEAMED UP FOR A PROTEST. THEY MADE POSTERS AND WANDERED AROUND IN TRAFFIC SCREAMING AT DRIVERS BECAUSE THE BUMS ARENT MAKING MUCH MONEY PANHANDLING. THE NEWSPAPER LOVED IT. THE BUMS CURSING AND YELLING IS WHAT THE 1ST AMENDMENT IS FOR. AND THE PAPER GETS TO SCOLD THE DRIVERS FOR BEING MEAN-SPIRITED IN HARD TIMES.

 

[neonlyte]

$6.00 per pound Federal Tax on......CHOCOLATE!
I am not, repeat not, giving up my beloved Cigarettes and Cigars!
This Pigouvian Federal Tax to modify behavior went over with hardly a complaint as the Federal Government takes another step towards totally controlling what a citizen eats, drinks, smokes or ingests.
I don't consume a great deal of chocolate, but the ladies do, chocoholics, they are, they even make movies about it!
Now if it were, in fact, chocolate instead of tobacco...being punitively taxed...imagine the uproar among the fairer sex...heh....
Amicus...

Pigouvian? Pork barrel politics?
There's a sense in which pork barrels are masturbated rather than fucked (out of hand), or is that just me getting high on the crackling? Don't smoke, don't eat chocolate except as a precursor to sex, in which case it it should be within lickin' reach.

THE USUAL SUSPECTS, AND THE HOMELESS WINOS, TEAMED UP FOR A PROTEST. THEY MADE POSTERS AND WANDERED AROUND IN TRAFFIC SCREAMING AT DRIVERS BECAUSE THE BUMS AREN'T MAKING MUCH MONEY PANHANDLING. THE NEWSPAPER LOVED IT. THE BUMS CURSING AND YELLING IS WHAT THE 1ST AMENDMENT IS FOR. AND THE PAPER GETS TO SCOLD THE DRIVERS FOR BEING MEAN-SPIRITED IN HARD TIMES.

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[amicus]

Neon, reading the OP will answer your Pigouvian question...

amicus...

 

[JackLuis]

Let's face it smokers, It is time to quit!

The Pigovian Tax Man cometh and we're screwed unless we can afford to pay the excise tax. A working man can't, so he quits and another smoker is reformed.

I've tried many times to quit and still am addicted. Maybe this time I can make it.

and just my luck I was switching to chocolate!

 

[amicus]

Heh, I tried chocolate...it just made me hornierrrrr....



ami