2257??

[ColetteJulie]

Hi there,
I'm new to literotica. I would appreciate it if authors or readers could fill me in on what exactly is banned by the 2257 law. I know bestiality is illegal in the States, is it however illegal to post a bestiality story on the Dutch forum or the German forum in English?

What else except incest is considered taboo?

Is it illegal to post on necrophilia?

Thanks for taking the time to read this, all feedback appreciated.

Collette

 

[Hypoxia]

Welcome. I'm not sure what a 2257 Law is. But I *can* tell you LIT's prohibitions:

1) No underage sex. Nobody under 18 in a sexual situation, including voyeurism, thinking about explicit sex, or being thought about explicitly. No sexual situations if the person APPEARS under 18; a 2000-year-old who looks 12 is not allowed.

2) No bestiality with natural animals. Unicorns, werewolves, IQ-enhanced apes, human-animal mind swaps -- those are all okay. But don't fuck natural dogs, hens, or horses.

3) No snuff. Don't kill anyone for sexual pleasure. Kill them for jealousy or revenge instead. Laurel (LIT's owner and sole editor) also doesn't like self-mutilation. I had a hard time getting a trephination story approved.

Rape, reluctance, and non-consensual sex are tricky. There's a sticky atop the Story Ideas forum detailing LIT's reluctance / non-con policy. Basically, no forced sex unless the one forced gains pleasure.

This is Laurel's site; those are Laurel's rules. Have fun!

 

[RejectReality]

The 2257 law clarifies how photographic images must be handled within U.S. jurisdiction. It details record-keeping standards, penalties, etc.

At it's core, it's meant to prevent minors from appearing in pornograpic photos or videos.

It has nothing to do with the written word, artwork, etc. It deals only with photographic or video images, and nothing else.

 

[GforGraham]

So it is like all govt laws regarding pornography, well anything, it is up for subjective interpretation. What one persons considers art another would call it porn.



and I did not mention erotica cause then I would get told off for being wrong again.

 

[ColetteJulie]

Thank you for responding.

None of you mentioned necrophilia. I checked in the taboo section and there isn't one story about necrophilia.
I come from a horror and gore background so I know all the nasty stuff that really happens because gore isn't erotic to anyone but a necrophiiliac. As you all know real life is represented in gore and horror, like proper rape, child molestion, slavery, mutilation etc.

I've decided to broaden ( and hopefully improve) my writing by trying my hand at erotica, but I see the two submissions I have made might be too hard core. Actually the first one is lame, I just wanted to see if it would be posted or rejected. My litmus test. Yes it was rejected.

I'm sure I can involve loving feelings and heart and erotica in a necro story. I'm going to give it a try.

Thanks all.

Merry christmas

 

[Hypoxia]

No necro on LIT? Did you examine the Erotic Horror category? It's not my thing so I'm not familiar, but browsing that area should give you an idea of what flies here. Necro would not appear in many or any Incest-Taboo stories. But that suggests an interesting setup: multiracial incestuous same-sex necrophilia, the BBC reaming his white half-brother's corpse's lubed anus. Now we only need a unicorn.

 

[ColetteJulie]

Wasn't inter racial sex taboo at one stage in just about every country. The same countries also made homosexual activity a capital crime. It would be interesting to see if any stories on Lit were written in a time frame in history. Like 1600- 1700. There were slaves everywhere and race mixing was taboo. It's easy to write in a time frame with that society's ethics in mind, but difficult to change your reader's opinion that it is taboo.

 

[Hypoxia]

Wasn't inter racial sex taboo at one stage in just about every country. The same countries also made homosexual activity a capital crime. It would be interesting to see if any stories on Lit were written in a time frame in history. Like 1600- 1700. There were slaves everywhere and race mixing was taboo. It's easy to write in a time frame with that society's ethics in mind, but difficult to change your reader's opinion that it is taboo.

On LIT, Taboo is a subset of Incest, and barely exists. Other taboos -- same-sex, interracial, crossdressing, whatever -- get their own fetish categories here. I'd expect necro in Erotic Horror.

And yes, IRL taboos evolve in time and place. Some (like interracial slave-fucking) might be 'banned' yet extremely common. A white slaveowner was unlikely to be punished for their transgressions so long as they don't go bonkers and try to *marry* the slave.

Another taboo is evolving now, with same-sex going from relationship-banned, to relationship-accepted but marriage-banned, to marriage-accepted. In recent history the same-sex taboo only covered marriage, rather like the interracial taboo. They're OK as sex objects, not partners.

And incestuous relations between consenting adults are similarly taboo in many jurisdictions. Fuck your close kin but don't marry them.

 

[m4plzure]

So it seems that I can not go with something based on the allegation of the British PM fucking the mouth of a dead pig?

 

[Hypoxia]

So it seems that I can not go with something based on the allegation of the British PM fucking the mouth of a dead pig?

If you make it an IQ-enhanced mutant or alien pig, it's OK here. But a normal pig? No way! Although if he doesn't cum in he dead pig's mouth... I think you'll have to ask Laurel about that.

Alas, many incidents in the news are not suitable for LIT. Reality breaks the rules.

 

[m4plzure]

Another taboo is evolving now, with same-sex going from relationship-banned, to relationship-accepted but marriage-banned, to marriage-accepted. In recent history the same-sex taboo only covered marriage

And Lesbianism has only recently had an Age of Consent ie it wasn't illegal for any ages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Kingdom I believe sodomy between a man and woman has only been decriminalised relatively recently (200 ish?)

All a along way from the Middle Ages and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex,_gender_and_the_Roman_Catholic_Church According to some reputable TV prog that I wathced the Church would determine when and how a couple procreated. As per the link wrong doers were punished, so Confessions must have been a struggle for the celibate bod listening to the erotic errings.

And incestuous relations between consenting adults are similarly taboo in many jurisdictions. Fuck your close kin but don't marry them.

Yep, even the European Royal families are moving away from the marriage bit )

 

[Hypoxia]

Lesbianism has only recently had an Age of Consent ie it wasn't illegal for any ages ...

The term was coined in the late 1800s -- pretty recent. Casual acceptance of women being alone together / consorting has been common in many times and places. Unless one or more are obvious bull-dykes they're seen a "good friends".

Yep, even the European Royal families are moving away from the marriage bit )

Royals have always tended to screw whatever isn't glued down, with or without marriage. But intermarriage, yeah, that seems to be declining. No more Spanish Hapsburgs, alas. They were so entertaining.

Back to bestiality: We can't go into that on LIT but one tangent to its casual acceptance was to treat some animals as humans legally, as in, dogs and pigs being tried (and executed) for murder. I seem to recall some medieval judges accepting animal 'testimony'. Things are not always as simple as we assume.

 

[Junkystuff]

some real taboos are VERY obvious - no babies, for example...

 

[HandsInTheDark]

Wasn't inter racial sex taboo at one stage in just about every country. The same countries also made homosexual activity a capital crime. It would be interesting to see if any stories on Lit were written in a time frame in history. Like 1600- 1700. There were slaves everywhere and race mixing was taboo. It's easy to write in a time frame with that society's ethics in mind, but difficult to change your reader's opinion that it is taboo.

This is a writing site. Laws of various countries as regards real acts don't matter. On this site for all intents and purposes, only Laurel's rules matter. She doesn't care about any taboos but her own; Hypoxia listed all her known ones.

Where it does get a bit weird is trying to write historical fiction. In various times and places, marriage age has been below 18. Perfectly normal, church and state sanctioned relationships between 16 and an 18 year olds in the 15th century cannot be written about here. Avoid historicals and it's all good.

 

[Hypoxia]

Where it does get a bit weird is trying to write historical fiction. In various times and places, marriage age has been below 18. Perfectly normal, church and state sanctioned relationships between 16 and an 18 year olds in the 15th century cannot be written about here.

Trick is, we can write ABOUT underage sex but we can't write THE sex. I've written a number of bits like, "She married young; her first kid popped out when she was 15." That should be sufficiently informative.

Avoid historicals and it's all good.

Avoid explicit historicals with realistically young players, yes. Hint at the action if you must. I like joking hints: "He peered through the cracked door. On his wife's bed he saw at least 3 big black men, two women, and... was that an Alsatian?" A historical might go, "Some of the half-naked forms staggering from the Imperial bedchamber looked disturbingly young." That's about as much pandering as I could stomach.

 

[SecondCircle]

So it is like all govt laws regarding pornography, well anything, it is up for subjective interpretation. What one persons considers art another would call it porn.



and I did not mention erotica cause then I would get told off for being wrong again.

Take comfort knowing that in art, you are always wrong.

And always right.

 

[Handley_Page]

Hi there,
I'm new to literotica. I would appreciate it if authors or readers could fill me in on what exactly is banned by the 2257 law. I know bestiality is illegal in the States, is it however illegal to post a bestiality story on the Dutch forum or the German forum in English?

What else except incest is considered taboo?
Is it illegal to post on necrophilia?

Thanks for taking the time to read this, all feedback appreciated.
Collette

1] First things first:
USC2257 is HERE.


2] Laurel has put up a sticky giving the dos & don'ts of Literotica.
Regard them as fixed; real solid fixed. Thou shalt not deviate - at all.

The fact that it's an 'international' site, with multiple languages is immaterial. It's a board in the USA and governed by US Law. Where one state has a different view on something, Lit takes the safest value.

There have been several attempts at getting round some rule or other.
My advice is don't bother trying; it's a waste of effort and should you really want to write some 'horrible' stuff, I think there are other sites where the rules may not be quite so well established.

Good Luck

 

[Hypoxia]

Enthusiastic authors of snuff-underage-puppy literature can start their own websites. Please..

 

[Handley_Page]

Enthusiastic authors of snuff-underage-puppy literature can start their own websites. Please..

Amen to that


See this sticky:

 

[Boxlicker101]

Hi, Collette, and welcome to Literotica and to the AH.

Probably the strongest rule is against "underage" sex. Even if a couple is married, if one of them is under 18, the story will get shot down. This is the rule, even if he story is set in a place where the age of consent is 16.

Bestiality is forbidden, but sex between a mythical creature, such as a werewolf or unicorn, and a human is alright.

Rape etc. is a bit iffy, but is all parties end up enjoying it, ir is acceptable.

Incest is one of the most popular categories here, as long as no other rules, such as underage sex, are being broken.

Necrophilia is accepted, or was the last I know. Here is the only thing I have ever written on the subject: https://www.literotica.com/s/friendly-undertaker