20 years ago
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It's sad yes, but I often think if he were still alive do you think he would have the same respect that he recieves now?
I mean come on Yoko was pretty bad, she took him down road's that he wouldn't have taken if he'd stayed with Chynthia.
Anyway I will have a minutes silence for him and play some old music of his.
R.I.P John.
I mean come on Yoko was pretty bad, she took him down road's that he wouldn't have taken if he'd stayed with Chynthia.
Anyway I will have a minutes silence for him and play some old music of his.
R.I.P John.
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I was 3. I have no memories of the event either. But, I do have the "John Lennon Collection" CD of his solo stuff. Excellent work there!
I was 3. I have no memories of the event either. But, I do have the "John Lennon Collection" CD of his solo stuff. Excellent work there!
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The fucking guy has a gun, its full of bullets Yoko Ono was standing right fucking in front of him and he empties it into one of the greatest artists of a generation.
Yoko fuckin aiaiaiaiyeeeyeeyee Ono, standing RIGHT THERE. No wonder he got off on the insanity defence.
Yoko fuckin aiaiaiaiyeeeyeeyee Ono, standing RIGHT THERE. No wonder he got off on the insanity defence.
I remember that day.I was working the night shift then.When I got out of work,I heard the news on the radio as I was driving home.
After I got home I went down in my basement and turned the stereo on,and listened to the special that was on the radio station.
I was very shocked,and stunned.And if I remember right,I think I even cryed a little bit.The man was a fucking genius when it came to music.
As I write this post I have on "John Lennons Collection" CD.
"All we are saying,is give peace a chance!"
After I got home I went down in my basement and turned the stereo on,and listened to the special that was on the radio station.
I was very shocked,and stunned.And if I remember right,I think I even cryed a little bit.The man was a fucking genius when it came to music.
As I write this post I have on "John Lennons Collection" CD.
"All we are saying,is give peace a chance!"
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Even though I consider myself.....
A caring sentimental guy........ usually I don't overtly demonstrate the emotion of sadness or grief - don't know why, maybe a tough guy thing - don't know.
And 20 years ago I'd been familiar with loss - loved ones, family, friends etc.. My attitude? Life went on, they were in a better place, good luck to their souls, yeah I'll miss them - done.
And I pretty much act that way today about death and grief.
But........
That day, when I first heard the news of John's death - I lost it (at least for me) and continued to "feel pain" for days, even weeks afterward. Didn't know the guy of course. So why? Why did I, why do I still, feel this way about a person who I did not know, was not a relative - a virtual non-person in my life - why?
I feel that way because, quite simply - it is what he "represented to me." Who knows what he was really like? Not me. But that reality doesn't matter - to me. The only thing that does matter to me is what John was in my mind. And in my mind, "he is one of only a couple, maybe three, musicians/song-writers, who have ever actually made a statement, that the world listened to."
And I my mind - that is my dream - John was living my dream. John is the basis for all my life fantasies. Making simple music that means something, music that moves hearts to action.
And the true irony, in my case - I really can't explain to you, but you should know this, in an extremely off-beat way - I am tied to the gunman - John's killer. Fuck, how freaky is that?
How stupid is that - my hero of hero's - gunned down by some idiot mad man that I'm distantly associated with. Fuck!
The memories return. Shit!
A caring sentimental guy........ usually I don't overtly demonstrate the emotion of sadness or grief - don't know why, maybe a tough guy thing - don't know.
And 20 years ago I'd been familiar with loss - loved ones, family, friends etc.. My attitude? Life went on, they were in a better place, good luck to their souls, yeah I'll miss them - done.
And I pretty much act that way today about death and grief.
But........
That day, when I first heard the news of John's death - I lost it (at least for me) and continued to "feel pain" for days, even weeks afterward. Didn't know the guy of course. So why? Why did I, why do I still, feel this way about a person who I did not know, was not a relative - a virtual non-person in my life - why?
I feel that way because, quite simply - it is what he "represented to me." Who knows what he was really like? Not me. But that reality doesn't matter - to me. The only thing that does matter to me is what John was in my mind. And in my mind, "he is one of only a couple, maybe three, musicians/song-writers, who have ever actually made a statement, that the world listened to."
And I my mind - that is my dream - John was living my dream. John is the basis for all my life fantasies. Making simple music that means something, music that moves hearts to action.
And the true irony, in my case - I really can't explain to you, but you should know this, in an extremely off-beat way - I am tied to the gunman - John's killer. Fuck, how freaky is that?
How stupid is that - my hero of hero's - gunned down by some idiot mad man that I'm distantly associated with. Fuck!
The memories return. Shit!
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I was 21 when John died & had grown up loving John Lennon. His death was devastating to my whole circle of friends, we felt like he knew us. He seemed to be a voice of reason in the middle of insanity. I know it isn't cool to like Yoko, but I do respect her in some ways. Cynthia was a dowdy little hausfrau type, no way would John's music have evolved & grown if he had stayed with her. Double Fantasy is not the greatest of his work, but I do think Yoko challenged him in ways that most women couldn't. I still wonder where his music would have gone next.
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A small asside.......
I now live on the East Side of Manhattan - I lived on the West Side for a couple of years, loved it and still have friends over there and visit often. To get there I walk across Central Park, right through the middle of Strawberry Fields.
There is a larger marker in the middle of the side-walk there, marble - all it says is "Imagine."
There are usually flowers, roses mostly and often candles burning around the word. Most of the time, there are folks sitting around - often playing guitar or singing something. There are folks doing Tai Chi and TM on the grass. I witnessed a couple getting married on that spot this past spring.
A super peaceful little spot that you should visit when you come to New York.
The Dakota is right across the street from Strawberry Fields. The door where John was murdered is only 50yards from the park entrance. I don't like the tourists morbidly taking pictures of the murder spot. I mean, what for? They should go over and take pictures in Strawberry Fields, a much more pleasant place to remember such a great man.
People on the West Side still talk about John and his being such a regular type of guy. He would ride his bike up and down Amsterdam Ave and wave at people. He shopped for himself, mostly buying six-packs of beer at the deli on 72nd street.
I wish I had met him.
I now live on the East Side of Manhattan - I lived on the West Side for a couple of years, loved it and still have friends over there and visit often. To get there I walk across Central Park, right through the middle of Strawberry Fields.
There is a larger marker in the middle of the side-walk there, marble - all it says is "Imagine."
There are usually flowers, roses mostly and often candles burning around the word. Most of the time, there are folks sitting around - often playing guitar or singing something. There are folks doing Tai Chi and TM on the grass. I witnessed a couple getting married on that spot this past spring.
A super peaceful little spot that you should visit when you come to New York.
The Dakota is right across the street from Strawberry Fields. The door where John was murdered is only 50yards from the park entrance. I don't like the tourists morbidly taking pictures of the murder spot. I mean, what for? They should go over and take pictures in Strawberry Fields, a much more pleasant place to remember such a great man.
People on the West Side still talk about John and his being such a regular type of guy. He would ride his bike up and down Amsterdam Ave and wave at people. He shopped for himself, mostly buying six-packs of beer at the deli on 72nd street.
I wish I had met him.
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Juliangel
Since I see no answer to the question you posed... let me say this; At 11 how aware were you of news events, music events ect.... What were you into? It is not surprising to me that Lennon's death could pass unnoticed by a young girl.
I sometimes think I have grown callus over the years, having lived through JFK, Robert and Martin Luther King not to mention some very close friends and both parents, deaths. However it is now in later years that I feel the loss of someone like John Lennon.
I do not deify the man... he was "a man" but he was a special man. It is ours to wonder, what music was left unmade....
Since I see no answer to the question you posed... let me say this; At 11 how aware were you of news events, music events ect.... What were you into? It is not surprising to me that Lennon's death could pass unnoticed by a young girl.
I sometimes think I have grown callus over the years, having lived through JFK, Robert and Martin Luther King not to mention some very close friends and both parents, deaths. However it is now in later years that I feel the loss of someone like John Lennon.
I do not deify the man... he was "a man" but he was a special man. It is ours to wonder, what music was left unmade....
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Sparky, if I ever get to NYC, the first place I want to visit is Strawberry Fields. "Imagine" is one of the songs that has made me feel a bit better on some of the bad days. People are always attracted by the morbid aspect of something like this.I know, because I live through it every day. One reason I didn't do the talk show circuit after Justin died is that no one wanted to talk about his life. 17 years of living as opposed to the 15 minutes the shootings took, which should be remembered?
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I was only 8 months old when John Lennon was killed but that doesnt mean his music isnt influential to me. I remember my senior year in high school "Imagine" was only 6 votes shy of becoming our class song!!
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It was 20 Years Ago Today ....
My alarm clock woke me with the morning news as usual ...
what? i thought i heard him say something about John Lennon ... ???? did i hear that right ... it can't be true ... i thought i heard him say that John Lennon is dead.
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R.I.P. John Lennon
My alarm clock woke me with the morning news as usual ...
what? i thought i heard him say something about John Lennon ... ???? did i hear that right ... it can't be true ... i thought i heard him say that John Lennon is dead.
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R.I.P. John Lennon
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20 years ago, on a gray and dismal rainy day, I was at the Dakota to mourn the loss of a great artist who words and music greatly influcened my life and the person that I have become. I still remember that day like it was yesterday, a huge outpouring of love and grief, but none of the hate expressed towards the person who did this act. (unfortunately the only hatefull acts that I saw were by the NYC PD upon the crowd, i.e. I saw one take some guys tape player and smash it).
I had the opportunity to see John as real person pushing Sean around the park in the baby carriage, and exchanged a hello and a wave.
When I think of that night I listen to "Empty Garden" by Elton John, I think that song says it all.
BLUES
People asking questions lost in confusion
Well I tell them theres no problem only solutions
Well they shake thier heads and look at me as if I've lost my mind
I had the opportunity to see John as real person pushing Sean around the park in the baby carriage, and exchanged a hello and a wave.
When I think of that night I listen to "Empty Garden" by Elton John, I think that song says it all.
BLUES
People asking questions lost in confusion
Well I tell them theres no problem only solutions
Well they shake thier heads and look at me as if I've lost my mind
