1960s sexual revolution
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Odd.
In the late sixties and most of the seventies into the early eighties while yes, there were some you had to date a while before you " Got Some" a large number thought that if they weren't " Balling " some Dude they just weren't happening!
Unless they were horny or it was their Ideal to start with they liked to be asked or romanced at least a little.
And there definition of romance varied greatly depending on how horny they were!
Say "No" while rubbing the guy's Dick and undoing his pants does confuse us...
In the late sixties and most of the seventies into the early eighties while yes, there were some you had to date a while before you " Got Some" a large number thought that if they weren't " Balling " some Dude they just weren't happening!
Unless they were horny or it was their Ideal to start with they liked to be asked or romanced at least a little.
And there definition of romance varied greatly depending on how horny they were!
Say "No" while rubbing the guy's Dick and undoing his pants does confuse us...
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Interesting perspectives.
I thought it was all about being able to express yourself sexually. Being able to actually bring it up, not just men, but women too. I was born in the 60's so maybe I don't have the perspective of being there, but culturally, I can see the 'sexual' significance of the 'revolution' in that context.
Is the OP's wife suggesting date rape was the status quo? I happen to think the same percentages of dirtbags roam the earth regardless of generation, and sometimes people base their views on negative experiences.
I thought it was all about being able to express yourself sexually. Being able to actually bring it up, not just men, but women too. I was born in the 60's so maybe I don't have the perspective of being there, but culturally, I can see the 'sexual' significance of the 'revolution' in that context.
Is the OP's wife suggesting date rape was the status quo? I happen to think the same percentages of dirtbags roam the earth regardless of generation, and sometimes people base their views on negative experiences.
That's not the way I remember it. And, no, I didn't inhale.
Well that's certainly the way she does.
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My ex wife has said much the same thing. She says back then fucking was the friendly thing to do
hey...
It must be the differences in our geographical locations--, because I was 15 in 1969 and I don't remember that being the situation at all.
It must be the differences in our geographical locations--, because I was 15 in 1969 and I don't remember that being the situation at all.
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As with most things, it depends on your point of view.
I assure you that there were many people for whom the 'free love' 60s didn't really exist. Religious families and strict morals have always been a way of life for some.
Of course there were the 'wild kids' who 1) had no parental supervision, 2) lived in an area with enough other 'wild kids', 3) had the time, place, and opportunity and they made the most of it.
I've never heard that the 'hippy chicks' weren't allowed to 'say no'. 'Doing your own thing' meant that you controlled you own destiny, body, behavior, etc. That said, I'm sure that there was pressure that may have bordered on non-consent.
I assure you that there were many people for whom the 'free love' 60s didn't really exist. Religious families and strict morals have always been a way of life for some.
Of course there were the 'wild kids' who 1) had no parental supervision, 2) lived in an area with enough other 'wild kids', 3) had the time, place, and opportunity and they made the most of it.
I've never heard that the 'hippy chicks' weren't allowed to 'say no'. 'Doing your own thing' meant that you controlled you own destiny, body, behavior, etc. That said, I'm sure that there was pressure that may have bordered on non-consent.
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Hey zotique,
My wife and I are now in our late sixties and fast approaching seventy and we both agree with what others have said, "It's not how we remember it." Where was she living at the time?
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Now, I was born at the end of 1970, so I may be completely out of turn speaking here.
I did not date in high school (mid 80's). While I played football and was semi-athletic, I just didn't fit into a clique, and didn't want to.
I do remember my parents being completely surprised about me not being able to date. Both of them said that when they were out of college and working (mid to late 60's), that it was just common for guys to ask girls out regardless of social status, looks, and backgrounds and that the girl could easily say no with no harm being done. They both said that young people would go out and socialize easily, meet others, and get dates. I can't speak to any sexual aspects as they didn't share and I wouldn't have really wanted to know anyway.
Any historical accounts I've read mirror what my parents said.
I don't know if it was that girls "couldn't say no", and much as society was much more open back then. The "Age of Innocence" from the 1950s was still evident as well as the experimentation with drugs and the social upheaval of the 1960s.
I did not date in high school (mid 80's). While I played football and was semi-athletic, I just didn't fit into a clique, and didn't want to.
I do remember my parents being completely surprised about me not being able to date. Both of them said that when they were out of college and working (mid to late 60's), that it was just common for guys to ask girls out regardless of social status, looks, and backgrounds and that the girl could easily say no with no harm being done. They both said that young people would go out and socialize easily, meet others, and get dates. I can't speak to any sexual aspects as they didn't share and I wouldn't have really wanted to know anyway.
Any historical accounts I've read mirror what my parents said.
I don't know if it was that girls "couldn't say no", and much as society was much more open back then. The "Age of Innocence" from the 1950s was still evident as well as the experimentation with drugs and the social upheaval of the 1960s.
It was Germany, and she says that if a girl wanted male companionship, fucking was mandatory.
It was "fuck or fuck off," plain and simple.
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Hey zotique,
I personally find this disturbing but I know very little of the German culture especially during the 1960's. I was raised near two large US military bases here in South Carolina and have met families where women from Germany had married US soldiers for the sole purpose of getting out of Germany during that time frame. So something was apparently going on.
I hope this is not haunting her as she close to our age and deserves to be at peace and well loved.
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I was 18 or older throughout most of the 1960s and active in Central London including Soho and Chelsea.
While the pill and lack of sexual diseases made it easier, and with fewer consequences, if a woman said 'yes' I didn't find that a potential partner would agree to sex easily except for the few who were trophy hunting to see just how many they could have sex with in a given time.
That was the real difference. Some women could and did become predators.
While the pill and lack of sexual diseases made it easier, and with fewer consequences, if a woman said 'yes' I didn't find that a potential partner would agree to sex easily except for the few who were trophy hunting to see just how many they could have sex with in a given time.
That was the real difference. Some women could and did become predators.
In every generation, women, (and young girls), have and have had the right to say no. But at the same time, men have the right to say no to a relationship if sex is excluded. IMO, It just depends on the person(s) and the circumstances.
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There were some "easy" women around Navy bases in the late 60's and early 70's, but I've been told that it was nothing new.
As I remember it, hippy chicks were not overly promiscuous except for the really drugged out ones, but women in general might have been more willing to have sex outside of marriage if there was a real connection. They also might have been more willing to go skinny dipping with you if you weren't an asshole, but sex was a level or two up.
I'm also a diver, but got into it way after my Navy years. I worked in an ex-CB's shop and had several friends in the EOD community in Charleston is the early 2000's, and helped with their regulators and MK16 spheres. I love the Cooper River and spearfishing out on the ledges and shipwreck hunting
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I was born in the 50's. When the skirts started getting shorter, the garter belt and stockings got replaced with pantyhose. When they first came out, girls were wearing them with no panties just the pantyhose. At the end of the 60's girls were wearing just panties under there skirts no hose and they lost the bra to but were still stingy with putting out as it was called. The real revolution was in the 70's. With the porn industry taking off girls wanted sex as much as guys did. I remember a girl I was dating wanting me to take her to see deep throat. She wanted to know what all the fuss was about.
Well I was born in 1952, was a teen in the 1960s and never had sex until 1970, and that was a one time only even with a slighter older girl in Montreal.
Just 'cause it was the 60s and early 70s didn't make everyone a hippie.
I never met any girls who were hot to trot at all. In fact the only time I really had any real experience with casual sex in my younger years was the year I was 19 and 20 when I met one older woman in LA, a girl my age in Ottawa I slept with and another older woman who picked me up hitchhiking in Ontario between Toronto and Niagara Falls.
Just 'cause it was the 60s and early 70s didn't make everyone a hippie.
I never met any girls who were hot to trot at all. In fact the only time I really had any real experience with casual sex in my younger years was the year I was 19 and 20 when I met one older woman in LA, a girl my age in Ottawa I slept with and another older woman who picked me up hitchhiking in Ontario between Toronto and Niagara Falls.
