1000+ views

[Senna Jawa]

Today one of my poems scored over a thousand views, 1002 to be precise, 78 days since it was posted. It was scoring about 12.85 views per day--nothing outstanding but not too bad.

 

[Senna Jawa]

sorry

Sorry to post that trivia item twice. The system played a trick on me.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Today one of my poems scored over a thousand views, 1002 to be precise, 78 days since it was posted. It was scoring about 12.85 views per day

The poem is not resting on its Laura )). The day is not over yet while it has scored additional 16 views for a total of 1018. This pushed the daily average a shade above 13. But after midnight it will most likely go down below 13 (to just under 12.9 since there will be another day to account for). It has a good chance to get into the Literotica 100 most viewed poems within a hundred to a hundred and twenty days or so but who knows. Most likely it won't ever do much better than that.

 

[karmadog]

Congratulations!

That is, I think, a huge number of views. I have no poems that are even up to 300.

 

[smithpeter]

congratulations SJ,
My most "read" poem has 859 clicks.
Interesting to note that it has 2 votes.
A Dream Of Never Leaving
Keep on poeming.

 

[Angeline]

I Concur

That's a huge number of views, Senna. Dispos-A-Girl, which is an extremely popular poem at Lit (I get more feedback on it than all my other poems added together), has 792 views. What's your secret ?

 

[Rybka]

K+ Hits

Congratulations, S.J. What is the title of this poem so I can go and give it another "hit".


My most hit poem has 440 reads, but only 3 votes.

I don't quite understand how some poems can get more than 3000 hits in less than four months. Sounds like somebody reads the same poem quite a few times a day.



Regards, Rybka

 

[Senna Jawa]

watching the view scores as a simple entertainment

KD, Sm, Angeline and Rybka, thank you for congrats. I see that my poem is not slowing down with now 1038 views 13.14 views per day). Frankly, there is not much to congratulate, it's a triviality. The "secrets" are well known (well known to KM, Judo and others).

Here and now is a good time to make a disclaimer:

  I did nothing for the sake of getting
  higher scores, nothing direct.

Indeed, one can do perhaps only(?) seven things to get a high view score, and only two for sure, possibly three of them are truly essential (points 2. 3. below for sure, point 6.--most likely):

1. post your poem as early as possible (if U post a poem ten days earlier than U get ten dayfuls of views more; I am however lazy and am posting less and less; eventually I will run out of poems since I don't write anymore, very little--I used to write many poems a day for weeks). Obviously, this is a trivial issue since one month diff makes little diff -- anywhere from 150 to 1000 views for poems which are read often, thus percentage wise after a year it will not amount to too much.
2. Placement on the Literotica listing. When a title starts with "A" or still better with a character which precedes "A" then these poems are read more often. The most read non-audio Literotica poem has a titale which starts with a blank ' A Moment'. This is why it is listed even before the '"Loving You..."' which starts with a double apostrophe character ". (My poems, with three exceptions, were written before I joined Literotica. I didn't adjust titles. A poem's title is its integral part and should not be changed for trivial reasons). If the poem lists on Literotica were displayed from an alphabetically rotating place then this superficial issue would cease to exist. As it is, the second best place after the alphabetic top of the list is a place near the end but not to closely to it. If U click the selection   "z"   the erotic poetry list, then U will be greeted by a title which starts with "You..." followed by titles which start with "you...". This will change of course. But for a longer time my poem
   
                   your lips
   
   is accidentally there hence it is read more often then most of my poems, as attested by it's number of views: 156 since May 25 (or just under 2.2 views per day).
   
   In view of the effect of the alphabetic position of a title on the views score it is somewhat mysterious why of the two most often viewed Judo's poems:
   
     A is for Anal -- 1530 views since 2002-02-05
   
     I Want To Lick You While You Scream -- 1507 views since 2002-02-28
   
   it is the one with the title starting with "I" which scores more per day: 9.6 versus 8.55 for the other one, and the "I..." poem will most likely overtake the "A..." poem. I would guess that the "I..." poem is popular in the lesbian circles (men r doomed). At this time Judo's two poems occupy place 93 & 97 on the Literotica most read poems.
   
   There are still greater mysteries on the list anyway.
3. Attractiveness of the title -- this is a relative thing. One would think many of the titles on the Literotica most read poems repulsive to a general audience, or naive, but they are attractive to the Literotica audience. The titles of my two most read poems are not repulsive nor naive while still attractive:
   
     'round the bed and under the walls -- 1038 views
   
     19-th hole -- 874 views
   
   Both are placed near the beginning of the erotic poems list but this poem:
   
   * * * -- 364 views
   
   is placed on the list between the two, and it was posted three and two days respectively before the other two. Most likely it is its unassuming title which makes it less read than the other two. And still, due to its position it is, as of today, my third most read poem.
4. KarmaDog mentioned participation on this forum as one of the factors. It is but minimal I'd guess, it can add perhaps about five to thirty views. A drop in the bucket. (I used to participate here but for other reasons ).
5. Posting many poems may have an effect. Occasionally I see that some readers read several of my poems in a row. Thus one poem helps another. Not much but some. Over a hundred of my submissions are already posted hence it helps a bit (but only six were viewed more than 200 times, and thirty three a hundred or more times. Well, poems pass mark 100 routinely).
6. Posting erotic stories should attract some of the readers also to your poetry. I didn't post any, so I am only guessing. It's a good guess since erotic stories are more popular than poetry.
7. An attractive nick might help. Senna Jawa or Rybka is nothing. But &nbsp JUDO   with its UPPER CASE is super.
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   Now, why "The Virgin" was viewed 5081 times? (It's on 11th place). I have no idea!

 

[Senna Jawa]

Correction!!!

(but only six were viewed more than 200 times, and thirty three a hundred or more times. Well, poems pass mark 100 routinely).

I miscalculated! Only 29 of my poems scored a 100 or more views as of now. I am oh sooo terrrrribly sorrrry for my hoooonest mistake.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Re: Correction!!!

I miscalculated! Only 29 of my poems scored a 100 or more views as of now. I am oh sooo terrrrribly sorrrry for my hoooonest mistake.

It took Literotica's readers almost 6 days to justify my error. Now indeed, I can say that 33 of my submissions have scored a hundred or more views.

I was tired that other day. Otherwise I would make my prediction much more conservative too. The way I stated it, it is chancy.

(Also, my prediction about Judo's I-poem overcoming her A-poem most likely will not happen. The I-poem almost caught up with the A-poem, only to see the A-poem surge clearly ahead of it. It looks like the "A-position versus I-position" factor on the list of Literotica poems is decisive).

Regards,

 

[Rybka]

I am finding that "erotic" far out scores "non-erotic" vis a vi the number of hits.

It is also interesting that "junk" i.e. "toss off poems" seem to get a lot more votes than more serious efforts.


Regards, Rybka

 

[Senna Jawa]

I am finding that "erotic" far out scores "non-erotic" vis a vi the number of hits.

KarmaDog or Judo or both were of the same opinion. Thus all four of us agree (KD+J+R+SJ). In addition to this democratic way of deciding this issue we may look for a correlation. I am sure it's there.

When a poem is not on the new poems list then indeed, I would think that the erotic poetry list is viewed way more often than non-erotic. (Thus we may look separately for the non-erotic champs ).

And when a poem is on the new poems list than the poems with erotic titles (or outright sexual/pornographic) again score more hits, I would think.

On the other hand I suspect that the titles which leave some room to readers' imagination also seem to be attractive.

It is also interesting that "junk" i.e. "toss off poems" seem to get a lot more votes than more serious efforts.

Well, see my classification (in a different thread) of poems with respect to their popularity . And still, I'd say that there is no correlation (rather than negative) between the artistic value of a poem and the number of hits. By the same token, there is also none between the voting score and the artistic value of a poem.

Regards,

 

[Senna Jawa]

another 1000+

My second poem has crossed the treshold of 1000 views. It teased me for a couple of days at 999 before it has lept to 1024. My third poem has scored only 442 view so far, thus for a long time I won't bother you again with my trivia.

Regards,

 

[Senna Jawa]

Re: another 1000+

My second poem has crossed the treshold of 1000 views. It teased me for a couple of days at 999 before it has lept to 1024. My third poem has scored only 442 view so far, thus for a long time I won't bother you again with my trivia.

Regards,

It's time to do so . My third poem has exactly 1000 reads as of yesterday.

 

[WickedEve]

I hate to brag but I will. Some of my poems have 20 to 30 hits after a year.

 

[Senna Jawa]

I hate to brag but I will. Some of my poems have 20 to 30 hits after a year.

Do you mean per day or total? It is strange that I didn't see you on the top reads list, so it must be total. Strange indeed.

Eve, brag to your heart desire!

I look at the poems on the top reads list and in general like on some creatures under an evolution. For a longer time the conditions are stable and you may predict somewhat the fate of these creatures-poems. Then something happens and it is a disaster for some poems while it is a fresh chance for the new creatures-poems. That's what happened recentlyu with the illustrated poems. This new kind of species has arised and shot quickly to the top, leaving the old, classical specie in its dust, kicking many of them into oblivion, out of the top reads list.

For instance, SP "always" had the highest number of poetry posts, but until recently was not present (am I wrong?) on the "Most Read: Poetry" list. But now his four poems posted on

  09/24   10/01   10/01   09/06

are placed

  14   28   39   83

and at this time have collected:

  7661   5295   4571   2760

Actually, the last of the mentioned four poems is "classical". Its high score is, in a great part, due to the first ascii of its title, which is the double quote ". This illustrates the difference between a title being attractive for poetic reasons, and such a title would be:

            ready? whispered

or

            ready? - whispered

and a Literotica-attractive title, where the attractiveness is gained by an eye sore:

            "ready?" whispered

where the eye sore is in the form of the double quotes. SP's poem and Judo's poem posted on 12/03 (!!! ) will overcome, within a couple of days, my "leading" poem. Judo's poem is placed 85, with 2692 reads, SP's as mentioned above, 83 with 2760, and mine is still placed 80, with 2857 reads. But mine was posted back in May. It still has an average of over 10 reads per day but it has slowed down significantly.

I see also Angeline on the "Most Reads: Poetry" list. It is hard to
believe that she has appeared on this one only recently, and that
Eve is not there at all.

My second poem, with its 2091 reads as of now is gaining on the 100th poem but at such a snail pace that most likely it will never make it. It would under stable condition, since it would overun some of the older poems. But with the "revolutionary" events it hardly has a chance.

It's fun to watch all this numbers and evolution. I would have more fun if I wasn't lazy, if I wrote me some perl programs to assist the trivia observations.

Hey, "Shadow Theater" is already approved. Let me check on the New Poems list. They are not there yet. Any moment

 

[WickedEve]

Most of my poems have very low votes and reads. I was kidding about 30 reads for an entire year but a few aren't much better than that.

 

[PAUL C]

one view is enough

give me one view, and one piece of feedback from somebody who enjoyed it then my happiness is complete.

or constructive criticisim.

or hate mail.

a response.

any response.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

I bet that if I had a link to My Hot Wet Tight Pussy with 'illustrated poetry' written in front in my signature and decided to take a day off poetry to roam the general board, I could have 5000 views in less than a week

 

[OT]

I bet that if I had a link to My Hot Wet Tight Pussy with 'illustrated poetry' written in front in my signature and decided to take a day off poetry to roam the general board, I could have 5000 views in less than a week

Sheesh Lauren,

Just exactly how did you think all those other poets got so many reads?

(although the image of some, stomping around the General Board with provocative poem titles strapped to their backs, is just... well either very frightening, or very funny.)

 

[Senna Jawa]

I bet that if I had a link to My Hot Wet Tight Pussy with 'illustrated poetry' written in front in my signature and decided to take a day off poetry to roam the general board, I could have 5000 views in less than a week

"A Hot Wet Tight Pussy--Mine!" would be still better because it starts with "A". And If you can sneak in with a title which precedes "A" then you can really take off. The title policy on Literotica is defective. Very irregular, unpredictable. Unfortunately some of my poems became the victims, when their important component, the title, got messed up. For instance, in the case of haiku we do not write five-seven-five but 5-7-5. I had an extra short haiku which had 1-2-4 distribution of syllables, and I titled my post accordingly:

            1-2-4 haiku,

which was an attractive title, honest, informative, memorable,artistically meaningful and justified, harmonious. It came back as:

        One-Two-Four Haiku

Ugh! Horrible! An awful title!

   

And it is just one example. BTW, One-Two-Four Haiku was posted on Sept 2 (153 days ago), and scored 90 reads, while "a boob-ku" was [posted on October 17 (108 days ago) and scored 420 reads. It means less than .6 reads per day versus close to 4 reads per day--nearly 6 and two thirds times advantage on the "a boob-ku" side. If the haiku title were   1-2-4 haiku,   it would score already over 200 reads easily (it is a conservative estimate).

Lauren, roaming the general board to get attention to a poem has never occurred to me. A great idea but I will pass on it. You guys go ahead, and let me know about it, so that I can watch the effect Are there any precedences?

 

[WickedEve]

I bet that if I had a link to My Hot Wet Tight Pussy with 'illustrated poetry' written in front in my signature and decided to take a day off poetry to roam the general board, I could have 5000 views in less than a week

You have a pic of that?! Where? lol Elda was thinking of doing an illustration for her "Ass Open for Business" poem.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Most of my poems have very low votes and reads. I was kidding about 30 reads for an entire year but a few aren't much better than that.

What is your secret? Eve, I am really curious. Each of my poems posted in May, June or July (of 2002) has over 100 reads, and those posted in August have all over 80 reads. Majority of these poems scored way over 100 reads. And I think that I am quite typical. So, what do you do Eve, to avoid public attention?

 

[WickedEve]

What is your secret? Eve, I am really curious. Each of my poems posted in May, June or July (of 2002) has over 100 reads, and those posted in August have all over 80 reads. Majority of these poems scored way over 100 reads. And I think that I am quite typical. So, what do you do Eve, to avoid public attention?

I work damn hard at it, SJ. I lurk in the shadows like a creature that's never written a poem before. I start most of my titles with a "z." I use boring titles like "Z Spot Run" "Z Most Boring Poem in the World" and my infamous "Z."

 

[Cordelia]

Interesting...

I have never really looked (or cared) to see the ratings and the reads my poems were getting. When I did today (because of this thread), I noticed mine weren't getting read much. Of the 12 I have posted, only 4 have over 100 reads, and I have been posting poetry since June 2002.

I really don't promote my poetry anywhere but on this forum, and even then, I am shy about self-promotion.

I am curious, though. Why is it important to any poets how many reads there are? Or what the rating is? I have rarely looked at my scores, and usually only when I post poems and my submissions page is displayed.

I post poetry for various reasons (none of which is to see how it is rated or how many times they are read). I expect some people to like it and some to hate it and some are indifferent. I love getting feedback either way. I don't post my poems as though there is a contest. Why is the number of reads even shown? Or is it just a measure of the popularity of poems in general? (My stories have well over 15,000 reads.)

I really want to know.

Anxiously curious,




Cordelia