Student bondage club makes comeback at ISU

Cheyenne

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By STACI HUPP
Register Staff Writer
10/01/2003
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Ames, Ia. - Jayme Howard spends his days at computer science class. At night, the Iowa State University freshman learns how to tie up and spank partners.

He gets his nighttime lessons from Cuffs, a campus club that teaches students about bondage and other sexual fetishes.

The club, after dissolving last year, is trying to make a comeback at ISU. Today, Cuffs leaders plan to ask the ISU student senate for $100 from the student fee fund, mostly to pay for promotion.

"It's always been interesting to me," said Howard, 18, who got involved in Cuffs after he met the club's president. "I'm learning more."

A Christian family advocate said Tuesday that the group shows a need for lessons in morality among ISU students.

"This is an alarm bell," said Chuck Hurley, president of the Iowa Family Policy Center in Pleasant Hill. Hurley says rape is vastly underreported on college campuses.

"I think for the university to condone this act in the light of the rape problem is like throwing gasoline on a destructive fire. It's just going to make it worse," he said.

The highlight of a Cuffs meeting this week was the film "Secretary," about an attorney and his assistant who find a common bond in masochism, or inflicting physical pain for pleasure.

Howard and a dozen other students watched it in a small room at the ISU Memorial Union. Instead of popcorn, they snacked on "S&M's": a mix of Skittles and M&M's candies.

Leaders hope membership will more than double for the next meeting, a how-to session that could involve paddles, leather, ropes and a fur-covered "flogger."

Clothes stay on at meetings, said Duane Long Jr., an ISU senior who is Cuffs' president and primary instructor.

"It's almost clinical," said Long, who also talks to ISU human sexuality classes. "You can show people without it being sexual."

ISU's 27,000 students will pay about $8.6 million in mandatory fees this year. About $1.5 million will go to campus clubs.

University officials and the Iowa Board of Regents don't monitor spending on student clubs.

"I have a high level of confidence in the ability of students to deal with these types of matters," said Regent Bob Downer of Iowa City. "It does strike me that this is a matter that is of a sufficiently unusual nature. It should be ascertained that there is no unlawful activity."

If Cuffs receives student money, it wouldn't be the first time. An ISU senior organized Cuffs in 2000. Long then was the group's treasurer.

Student senators initially denied the group money because they said some club meetings were closed to sexually inexperienced student members. The club opened meetings to all students and won $33 for the following year.

Student senators were divided over the club's worth to a college campus, said David Boike, who oversees the senate's books.

"Some people thought they actually provided a legitimate service and served the university community well and deserved money for it," said Boike, a senior from Dike.

Cuffs was the target of jokes, ridicule and letters to the student newspaper in its first year.

The fanfare on campus has died since, aside from the Cuffs posters that disappear within a day of their distribution across campus.

"To me, that's kind of what college is about, to be liberal and to do what they want to do," said Adam Bosman, an ISU sophomore from Madrid. "I think any club has the right to be here. It's not any different from the Hackey Sack Club and the Gay and Lesbian Alliance."

Cuffs dissolved last year when Long became too busy to organize meetings.

Cuffs already had qualified for more than $1,500 of student money, most of which would have been used to pay the members' admission costs to a leadership conference.

Long gave it all back, and the group lost its free office space in the Memorial Union.

The club also gets some money from dues, which pay for guest lecturers and field trips to home-improvement stores, where members have looked at rope, clamps and wooden dowels.

The club isn't all about sex talk, Long said. At least twice a year, guest lecturers have talked about preventing sexual assault and sexually transmitted diseases, he said.

Student senators, who decide who gets the club money and how much, are expected to give Cuffs an answer within a month.

Hurley urged student leaders to deny club financing.

"While the argument is made that this is consensual . . . sadism is disrespectful and masochism is self-disrespectful," Hurley said. "To fund something that is degrading or sexually violent can only lead to heartache."

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4780927/22390514.html
 
Cheyenne said:


"While the argument is made that this is consensual . . . sadism is disrespectful and masochism is self-disrespectful," Hurley said. "To fund something that is degrading or sexually violent can only lead to heartache."


Every once in awhile I read something in the real world that reminds me Lit isn't like the real world.

Sexual activity that is accepted here at Lit by most people, even if they aren't interested in it themselves, is often not so accepted outside of Lit. An obvious statement, I know. But I forget sometimes.
 
Perhaps I should have posted this on the bdsm board!
 
I'm not sure Cym would support such a club if it were made up of the blind leading the blind. Although that can't really be determined from the article. But how many college kids can be experts at that age?
 
Any club that endorses the mixing of Skittles and M&M's must be disbanded!!! Those 2 candies do not mix! lol
 
SleepingWarrior said:
Any club that endorses the mixing of Skittles and M&M's must be disbanded!!! Those 2 candies do not mix! lol

omg, are you me?
 
Cheyenne said:

A Christian family advocate said Tuesday that the group shows a need for lessons in morality among ISU students.

"This is an alarm bell," said Chuck Hurley, president of the Iowa Family Policy Center in Pleasant Hill. Hurley says rape is vastly underreported on college campuses.

"I think for the university to condone this act in the light of the rape problem is like throwing gasoline on a destructive fire. It's just going to make it worse," he said.

Am I the only one who noticed that the article associated an increase in rape problems with allowing a bdsm club on campus?
None of the bdsm people here have a comment? :confused:
 
Hey. It's diversity. Adds to the educational experience. Hell, it's the holy grail of Western Knowlege now...

As long as they don't try to form a white's-only bondage club or one that has black subs and white doms, they should be celebrated for raising up the level of education at ISU.

:D
 
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Cheyenne said:
Am I the only one who noticed that the article associated an increase in rape problems with allowing a bdsm club on campus?
None of the bdsm people here have a comment? :confused:

They're fit to be tied.

Probably can't get to the keyboard at this very moment...
 
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Fawkin'Injun said:
They're fit to be tied.

Probably can't get to the keyboard at this very moment...

LMAO!

:kiss:
 
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Cheyenne said:
Am I the only one who noticed that the article associated an increase in rape problems with allowing a bdsm club on campus?
None of the bdsm people here have a comment? :confused:

Actually I did as well. The ironic thing is that BDSM preaches the importance of consent and clear communication. Chances are that the kids in that club will probably be some of the only kids to hear about issues of consent from the school.

If they are concerned about the rape problem, perhaps they should focus their attention on increasing awareness of issues of consent and date rape instead of focusing on keeping a BDSM club out of the school.

Interesting article Chey.
 
Secretary? The bdsm movie where no one is killed? What's up with that?
 
I read yesterday that you have to walk 100 yards to work off 1 M&M.
 
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zipman7 said:
Actually I did as well. The ironic thing is that BDSM preaches the importance of consent and clear communication. Chances are that the kids in that club will probably be some of the only kids to hear about issues of consent from the school.

If they are concerned about the rape problem, perhaps they should focus their attention on increasing awareness of issues of consent and date rape instead of focusing on keeping a BDSM club out of the school.

Interesting article Chey.

Thanks. And that's more like what I was expecting to read as comments here.
 
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Cheyenne said:
Am I the only one who noticed that the article associated an increase in rape problems with allowing a bdsm club on campus?
None of the bdsm people here have a comment? :confused:
This is in part an example of what I was talking about in my thread about sexual prejudice. I have often noticed that the disparity between Lit. and the real world, indeed when I first came here I couldn't believe the people here were real (women who liked anal sex? who wrote porn??!? :eek: ).

But I have also noticed the prejudice here too - just to a much smaller degree.
 
They didn't have that club when I went to school there. At least, I don't think they did.
 
makes me laugh to be honest. i would argue that actually, chey, a lot of them will be feeling old enough and have read enough - via lit?!- to know about bdsm in its various forms - few of them are likely to be as naive as i was about such things.

the biggest factor i picked up on was the clean cut christian 'this is bad' feeling about it coupled with the riiculous notion that it lead to rape. not all rape is rape in the violent sadsistic way - some 'rapes' are even where people have changed their mind following an event... hate to say it but it's true.
 
I don't know what I think or believe about this, but this is something to consider. They are required to let anyone in that wants in. That is very very different from the BDSM community as a whole. Many experience people within the BDSM community are very skeptical of people - you have to prove yourself in some way. This selectiveness is necessary because of fear that one may abuse the information they learn.

When you have to accept everyone, you are teaching people, even those you don't feel comfortable teaching or feel they are doing it for the wrong reasons, about potentially harmful sexual activity.

I think that's where the idea of a college club has flaws.
 
I think its a good thing. If they want to get together and teach others about BDSM then let them. As long as no one's getting hurt against thier will what's the problem? But then, that's just me.
Not sure if they should be getting money from the school's club fund. On one hand they're an organization out to teach and learn. On the other paw they're a sexualy oriented group and most people are going to throw a fit over that. Probably point out how the glee club and christian atheletics guild could use the money better.
Personally, I think it would be cool and would probably join if I were going to that school.
Variety is the spice of life.
 
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