I'm feeling Baroque.

Equinoxe

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I'm feeling Baroque

Also, didactic. So, I am in the mood to share some Baroque era art.

Michelangelo Amerighi da Caravaggio:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/The_Conversion_on_the_Way_to_Damasc.jpg

In The Conversion on the Way to Damascus, there is a very different concept of the interaction of the divine from that we would see in earlier depictions, there is no stately anthropomorphic deity who appears before Saul, “Why persecutest thou me?” There is just the contrast between the darkness and the light, the darkness of heathenism and the light of God.

Gian Lorenzo Bernini:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Rape_of_Proserpine.jpg

Bernini was a favourite of Pope Urban VIII and a wonderful sculptor, his works very vivid and expressive, as in the faces of Pluto and Proserpine in his Rape of Proserpine from 1622. We see the different countenances of the characters, the fear of Proserpine in her attempt to flee and the desire, even it appears joy (detail), on the face of Pluto as he takes her.

Diego Rodriguez de Silva Velázquez:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Portrait_of_Philip_IV.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Self_portrait.jpg

In his Portrait of Philip IV from 1653 we see the characteristics of the King, the famous distortions of the face, the Hapsburg lip, held to be the product of several generations of inbreeding. We see the weakness in his empty eyes, it suits Spain's decline so stark and prominent then. Yet, in Velázquez's Self-Portrait, we see the artist, stern and demanding, dark, he is distant but intriguing, his eyes piercing.

Artemisia Gentileschi:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Judith_And_Her_Maidservant.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Susanna_And_The_Elders.jpg

Both Biblical subjects, Judith and Her Maidservant and Susanna and the Elders have rather different themes, the first depicts Judith after she has slain Holofernes, as she and her maidservant escape, her hand on the maid's shoulder as if in reassurance, as they look behind them fleeing with his severed head in the basket. Susanna and the Elders is different, it's subject is more vulnerable, as she is confronted with the two men, her disgust visible – a feeling perhaps even familiar to the artist herself from her own life.

P.S. The titles of the works are links to larger versions of the images as is the word "detail."

Subsequent threads in this series can be found here:
I'm in the mood for a Renaissance
Isn't it Romantic?
Impression, soleil levant
It's quite Classical at the Academies
A Byzantine Web of Gothic Horror and Romanesque Decadence
 
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the portrait of philip is staggering. saddening, too.

very nice thread. sorry i can contribute nothing more than views.
 
CrackerjackHrt said:
the portrait of philip is staggering. saddening, too.

It is, isn't it? It's a powerful image in a sense, but not in the way that one would expect an image of a King to be powerful, not like the equestrian images of the time, not like a portrait of Louis XIV. He just looks so pathetic.

very nice thread. sorry i can contribute nothing more than views.

Do not worry about it, views are good as well.
 
Sometimes I really get in the mood for, what I consider, the heaviness of Baroque art. It just holds more ... feeling, I suppose for me.
 
I was feeling didactic a little earlier, but I took a good shit and now I'm quite spry.
 
Segovia transposed some great Baroque music to guitar. I rather enjoy it when Im in the mood, its good writing music.
 
Cleopatra said:
Sometimes I really get in the mood for, what I consider, the heaviness of Baroque art. It just holds more ... feeling, I suppose for me.

That is one of the characteristics which defines it and why it is perhaps my favourite era of Western art, it has a realism that modern art lacks, but it's not so clean as the art of the Neoclassical era or the 19th century and not so cold as Renaissance art before it.

For instance, compare the serenity of Donatello's David and the detached precision of Michelangelo's David with the motion and depth of Bernini's David.
 
eagleyez said:
Segovia transposed some great Baroque music to guitar. I rather enjoy it when Im in the mood, its good writing music.

Segovia was of course the master when it comes to the guitar; I've heard some Bach, I believe, that he recorded (also some non-Baroque work of his, Albéniz in particular, that was wonderful).
 
Equinoxe said:
Segovia was of course the master when it comes to the guitar; I've heard some Bach, I believe, that he recorded (also some non-Baroque work of his, Albéniz in particular, that was wonderful).

Yes, he did a wide range of material. His Albeniz transpositions are truly marvelous.
 
eagleyez said:
Yes, he did a wide range of material. His Albeniz transpositions are truly marvelous.

I find that pieces like Asturias (Leyenda) and Triana seem almost more suited to the guitar than to the piano for which they were written. Of course, the guitar is the quintessential Spanish instrument.
 
Equinoxe said:
It is, isn't it? It's a powerful image in a sense, but not in the way that one would expect an image of a King to be powerful, not like the equestrian images of the time, not like a portrait of Louis XIV. He just looks so pathetic.


Wasn't he always portrayed on horseback because he was so short?
 
jumpingjesus said:
I was feeling didactic a little earlier, but I took a good shit and now I'm quite spry.

Baroque in the morning... now I can hear it and see it.

The instrument commonly called a "baroque flute" came into being only in the middle of the baroque period (which, in music, was roughly 1600 to 1750).

Construction: Three or four sections; wood or ivory. Low note d'. Conical bore tapered toward the far end; cylindrical head joint. Small to medium embouchure; six finger holes and one extra tone hole with a closed-standing key, which when opened produces D# / Eb.

Range and tuning: Designed for a lower tessitura than the renaissance flute. Tuning approximates so-called "1/6 comma meantone" with more than 12 notes to the octave (enharmonic notes like G flat and F sharp having different fingerings). Easiest in keys with one or two sharps, but was sometimes expected to play with as many as five sharps or four flats.

Tone: Responsive lower range with a round and resonant sound. High notes can be pure but colorful.
 
Equinoxe said:
I find that pieces like Asturias (Leyenda) and Triana seem almost more suited to the guitar than to the piano for which they were written. Of course, the guitar is the quintessential Spanish instrument.

It truly is.

I used to haunt a Flamenco club in SF where the players blew my mind and the dancers were uber erotic in a natural and ethnic way.
 
Riles said:
Wasn't he always portrayed on horseback because he was so short?

Well, the horseback pose was very common in that period amongst the Absolutist monarchs of Europe as a symbol of power, although Louis XIV being the Absolutist monarch, every nobleman on the continent was trying to be their own little Sun King. So it would not be unusual to be in emulation of him. Furthermore, Louis XIV was not a tall man and every image of him was carefully crafted to display his power and glory including making him more physically imposing. I'm not sure that there's a clear link between the two though.
 
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gypsywitch said:
Baroque in the morning... now I can hear it and see it.

The instrument commonly called a "baroque flute" came into being only in the middle of the baroque period (which, in music, was roughly 1600 to 1750).

Construction: Three or four sections; wood or ivory. Low note d'. Conical bore tapered toward the far end; cylindrical head joint. Small to medium embouchure; six finger holes and one extra tone hole with a closed-standing key, which when opened produces D# / Eb.

Range and tuning: Designed for a lower tessitura than the renaissance flute. Tuning approximates so-called "1/6 comma meantone" with more than 12 notes to the octave (enharmonic notes like G flat and F sharp having different fingerings). Easiest in keys with one or two sharps, but was sometimes expected to play with as many as five sharps or four flats.

Tone: Responsive lower range with a round and resonant sound. High notes can be pure but colorful.

My My, arent you technical this morn.

Have a great Sonoma day.

;)
 
Another Caravaggio:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Judith_Beheading_Holofernes.jpg

Characteristically dark, even grotesque, this image of Judith Beheading Holofernes is moving and disturbing. Caught part way through the act itself, you see the sword piercing his flesh; you can see determination, but a certain trepidation on Judith's face, as the disgusted scowling maid looks on.

And another of Velázquez:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/equinoxe/Juan_de_Pareja.jpg

Another striking portrait, this one is of a black gentleman, Juan de Pareja, who was an acquaintance of the artist and an artist himself. From his dress, it is clear that he is of the middle class, which is very interesting considering his ethnic background and the nature of Spanish society at that time.
 
Equinoxe said:
Well, the horseback pose was very common in that period amongst the Absolutist monarchs of Europe as a symbol of power, although Louis XIV being the Absolutist monarch, every nobleman on the continent was trying to be their own little Sun King. Sp it would not be unusual to be in emulation of him. Furthermore, Louis XIV was not a tall man and every image of him was carefully crafted to display his power and glory including making him more physically imposing. I'm not sure that there's a clear link between the two though.



My history is a little shakey for that time, and since any formal education in this subject ended back in OAC, I bow to your obvious superior knowledge.
 
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