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jeffreysub

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I'm just currious to know if anyone besides myself like to cutt themselves? You know take a nice sharp blade and slash into their flesh, glorifying in the pleasure of despair. Feeling the blood wash down your arms and legs knowing that to feel the pain like you've never felt before and far more intimate than what another can possably give?

Your body the vehicle to wherever you want to go...

Just wondering if anyone here feels the same as me.
 
All other issues that I may have with you aside, this is typically a sign of mental illness. I'm not saying this to be mean or anything, but really - cutting is often a sign of depression and/or other mental instability.... a way for the cutter to create physically the pain that they feel emotionally. Doing it because you are craving it from someone else (being a masochist, as I believe you to be, this could be why you do it), is one thing, but in general, it's not a good thing.
 
Whats your point? We're all mentally ill to one extent or another, whose to say what is illness and why limit such things in categorys. Why not expand the mind and explore how much pain we're capable of inflicting upon ourselves and how far we're capable of going. Pain and pleasure aren't so seperate as we'd like to think.

I believe inflicting wounds upon ourselves is hardly a bad thing but rather can be a blessing. It allows one to explore ourselves and understand why we exist in the world.
 
My point is that it often leads to suicide, and as much of a pain as you have been thus far towards me and mine, no one deserves to be left adrift like that.
 
I would never do something so dumb as kill myself. Not when life is so fun. :D

Besides I've had girlfriends in my life who've also self mutilated and hey nothing wrong with them and they got mad at me for doing it before which I just simply said, "Gee let me see your arms again." boy did that shut them up.

Not everyone who does this wants to kill themselves and it doesn't always lead to suicide.
 
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This subject has actually been discussed. I am not sure how to find things, what with the changes, but I'm sure it's in the library thread. Look under 'cutting'.
 
jeffreysub said:
Not everyone who does this wants to kill themselves and it doesn't always lead to suicide.
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Please pay attention to what I said ... I said it "often" leads to suicide, and statistically, it does.

There are also the people who do this and accidentally kill themselves, like the younger sister of one of my gradeschool friends - she used to take aspirin a lot to make the blood flow better and longer ... she ended up overdosing on it one night and died from it. Or the student at one of the state universities in Indiana who lost enough blood - little bits at a time of course - to go into shock and died before they could get her volume back up. Without someone there as a safety - someone who knows what he or she is doing, I would have to say that it's a very bad idea. If something should happen and you cut too deep, or at the wrong angle, or not quite where you had intended ... you could bleed to death, and it's easier than you would think.
 
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Cutting releases seratonin into your system. Seratonin uptake is a common treatment for depression.

I am not suggesting that all cutters are depressed.
I am suggesting that some depressed people find solace in cutting.

There are others who post here with a history of cutting. Maybe they can join in the thread.

Always, whether harm/pain inducing activities is BDSM related or not, be safe!

:rose:
 
Personally, I'd rather not see this discussed here. Self injury - cutting is only one form - is not related to BDSM. It's unhealthy, it's a sign of other issues, and it's not sexual.

jeffreysub said:
Whats your point? We're all mentally ill to one extent or another, whose to say what is illness and why limit such things in categorys.
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Yeah yeah, we're all mentally ill. But an interest in BDSM is no longer considered a mental illness, and SI is a symptom of mental illness. Any such bullshit about "expanding the mind" is just looking for an excuse to practice something that is an indication of help being needed.
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I believe inflicting wounds upon ourselves is hardly a bad thing but rather can be a blessing. It allows one to explore ourselves and understand why we exist in the world.
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No way. Blessing, my ass. People die as a result of SI. You're not exploring yourself by cutting, you're harming the earthly vessel in which your consciousness resides. If you want to explore yourself, try taking up meditation or journaling.

And just so it's clear where I'm coming from, I have SI in my past as well. I'm not a cutter - too obvious, and the first time I tried it I got a free handcuffed ride in the back of a police car straight to the local mental emergency unit. I have never been triggered by images or text about SI, but I acknowledge that once you start it's hard to permanently break away. I still think about doing it when I need to escape or feel release. I haven't done it in a long time now, and there are no scars or other permanent effects from my SI.

So that's why I don't think it should be discussed here: because self injury is not BDSM-related. Sure, I could just stay away from this thread and not have to know about it, but I do feel strongly about this so I'll probably be back to argue the point.
 
Etoile said:
Personally, I'd rather not see this discussed here. Self injury - cutting is only one form - is not related to BDSM. It's unhealthy, it's a sign of other issues, and it's not sexual.


Yeah yeah, we're all mentally ill. But an interest in BDSM is no longer considered a mental illness, and SI is a symptom of mental illness. Any such bullshit about "expanding the mind" is just looking for an excuse to practice something that is an indication of help being needed.

No way. Blessing, my ass. People die as a result of SI. You're not exploring yourself by cutting, you're harming the earthly vessel in which your consciousness resides. If you want to explore yourself, try taking up meditation or journaling.

And just so it's clear where I'm coming from, I have SI in my past as well. I'm not a cutter - too obvious, and the first time I tried it I got a free handcuffed ride in the back of a police car straight to the local mental emergency unit. I have never been triggered by images or text about SI, but I acknowledge that once you start it's hard to permanently break away. I still think about doing it when I need to escape or feel release. I haven't done it in a long time now, and there are no scars or other permanent effects from my SI.

So that's why I don't think it should be discussed here: because self injury is not BDSM-related. Sure, I could just stay away from this thread and not have to know about it, but I do feel strongly about this so I'll probably be back to argue the point.
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I think it may be loosely related to BDSM...there are a whole lot of masochist/endorphin junkies who SI. There just may be a connection in more then one way and i for one would be interested to see in how many ways. BTW SI is not a mental illness, or at least i've never seen anything in writing that says its a mental illness. Its a way of coping for ppl who dont know any other way to release their feelings. Just my 2 cents...back to lurking. :rose:
 
Kajira Callista said:
BTW SI is not a mental illness, or at least i've never seen anything in writing that says its a mental illness. Its a way of coping for ppl who dont know any other way to release their feelings.
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SI is a symptom of mental illness, most frequently depression or anxiety disorder. It's one way of coping, yes, but so is therapy and so is medication - both of which are generally considered less harmful than SI.
 
Etoile said:
SI is a symptom of mental illness, most frequently depression or anxiety disorder. It's one way of coping, yes, but so is therapy and so is medication - both of which are generally considered less harmful than SI.
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Now see...actually to me that is questionable... but im gonna leave it at that til i see how the thread progresses.
 
Kajira Callista said:
Now see...actually to me that is questionable... but im gonna leave it at that til i see how the thread progresses.
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Aw, I'm curious - what would you say? Which part is questionable - that SI is a symptom of mental illness (or instability) or that therapy and medication are ways of coping? Or that therapy and medication are less harmful than SI? C'mon KC, don't leave me hangin'! :)
 
Etoile said:
Personally, I'd rather not see this discussed here. Self injury - cutting is only one form - is not related to BDSM. It's unhealthy, it's a sign of other issues, and it's not sexual.


Yeah yeah, we're all mentally ill. But an interest in BDSM is no longer considered a mental illness, and SI is a symptom of mental illness. Any such bullshit about "expanding the mind" is just looking for an excuse to practice something that is an indication of help being needed.

No way. Blessing, my ass. People die as a result of SI. You're not exploring yourself by cutting, you're harming the earthly vessel in which your consciousness resides. If you want to explore yourself, try taking up meditation or journaling.

And just so it's clear where I'm coming from, I have SI in my past as well. I'm not a cutter - too obvious, and the first time I tried it I got a free handcuffed ride in the back of a police car straight to the local mental emergency unit. I have never been triggered by images or text about SI, but I acknowledge that once you start it's hard to permanently break away. I still think about doing it when I need to escape or feel release. I haven't done it in a long time now, and there are no scars or other permanent effects from my SI.

So that's why I don't think it should be discussed here: because self injury is not BDSM-related. Sure, I could just stay away from this thread and not have to know about it, but I do feel strongly about this so I'll probably be back to argue the point.
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Great post Etoile. I do not know enough about SI to comment one way or the other, though from what I have been exposed to and read about it is related to issues of stress/anxiety and depression. I am a masochist, but I do not get a BDSM type thrill from inflicting pain on myself.....seems to miss the whole point of where my head is. I envy those who can use pain from their own hands to fulfil that need as it must make for some release in an otherwise frustrating situation.

Catalina :rose:
 
catalina_francisco said:
Great post Etoile. I do not know enough about SI to comment one way or the other, though from what I have been exposed to and read about it is related to issues of stress/anxiety and depression. I am a masochist, but I do not get a BDSM type thrill from inflicting pain on myself.....seems to miss the whole point of where my head is. I envy those who can use pain from their own hands to fulfil that need as it must make for some release in an otherwise frustrating situation.

Catalina :rose:
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For me, cutting was never about a thrill... it doesn't excite me or arouse me the way that receiving pain from another's hands can.

It's a physical manifestation of the internal pain I feel.. a way to release the buildup of stress and frustration that I am incapable of showing in any other way. It's not pleasurable.. it hurts, but afterwards, I feel better... like releasing pressure slowly from a bottle of pop so it doesn't explode instead.

It can be harmful. It can be a sign of mental illness, or in my case, lack of ability to cope internally with pressure in life. It can be dangerous. But so is driving a car, or crossing the street, or any one of a thousand things people take for granted every day.

Telling people who cut that they're all mentally ill or trying to commit suicide or are terribly depressed is generalizing to a very huge extreme, and unproductive, in my opinion... though I'm not pointing a finger at anyone here, so don't anyone go getting their panties in a wad. :D
 
sunfox said:
It's a physical manifestation of the internal pain I feel.. a way to release the buildup of stress and frustration that I am incapable of showing in any other way.
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Yes, I agree. For me it has also been a way to allow myself to hurt...that is, if I'm hurting for emotional reasons that feels "invalid" so I have to hurt myself physically so I have a "good" reason to hurt.

As I said, I don't do this much anymore. But it's always around.
 
sunfox said:
Telling people who cut that they're all mentally ill or trying to commit suicide or are terribly depressed is generalizing to a very huge extreme, and unproductive, in my opinion... though I'm not pointing a finger at anyone here, so don't anyone go getting their panties in a wad. :D
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I do just want to point out that I didn't say that all who do it are mentally ill, simply that it is typically a sign/symptom of mental illness (like sneezing is a symptom of a cold, but not everone who sneezes has a cold). However, statistically, it is a much much more common thing for someone who is mentally ill/unstable to do, than someone who doesn't have problems. I also know that just saying "hey, you may have a problem" isn't really productive, but it's not productive to just ignore it either.
 
I'd have to disagree with several people who call it a form of mental illness. Many psycologists believe they know EVERYTHING while the fact of the matter is that they know jack shit. Every psycologist whose ever talked to me either brings up pointless things like my childhood or goes on about depression. It's quite funny actually people seem to get off being inflicted with pain that others give them but get upset if they find out if someone does it to themselves. Is it perhaps equalivant to masterbation, they believed that was once a sign of mental illness you know.

I personally like women giving me pain, cutting me, beating me, torturing while I am helplessly in her grasp.

However sometimes inflicting it on the self is fun as well, I fail to see whats wrong with this. BTW homosexuality, lesbianism is also considered a mental illness by some professionals. Maybe some people need medication for that as well.
 
so long as you keep it safe then it's fine, jeffery, but as was mentioned it can get dangerous easily. Also keep in mind, as has been said SEVERAL times, SI can be a SIGN that the person MAY be mentally ill, and by no means does it mean they are mentally ill just because they SI, you really need to start listening more closely. It should also be said that knives are either tools or weapons, depending on the design, not toys.
 
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i think a point that you may have missed is that Cutting or other forms of SI are quite often very different from forms of BDSM. BDSM is often derived from pain...not from injury (hence it's BDSM not BDSMI). permanent injuries can often result from SI cases. SI's are often derived from the injuries themselves. you speak of "gloring in the pleasure of despair". if you just want that...go watch Casablanca
 
jeffreysub said:
Every psycologist whose ever talked to me either brings up pointless things like my childhood or goes on about depression.
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Jeffrey I want you to show this sentence to four people that you trust and care about you and tell me what they say.
 
jeffreysub said:
I'd have to disagree with several people who call it a form of mental illness. Many psycologists believe they know EVERYTHING while the fact of the matter is that they know jack shit. Every psycologist whose ever talked to me either brings up pointless things like my childhood or goes on about depression. It's quite funny actually people seem to get off being inflicted with pain that others give them but get upset if they find out if someone does it to themselves. Is it perhaps equalivant to masterbation, they believed that was once a sign of mental illness you know.

I personally like women giving me pain, cutting me, beating me, torturing while I am helplessly in her grasp.

However sometimes inflicting it on the self is fun as well, I fail to see whats wrong with this. BTW homosexuality, lesbianism is also considered a mental illness by some professionals. Maybe some people need medication for that as well.
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My word, Jeffrey. Chill out. No one is attacking you. Geez.
 
jeffreysub said:
I'd have to disagree with several people who call it a form of mental illness. Many psycologists believe they know EVERYTHING while the fact of the matter is that they know jack shit. Every psycologist whose ever talked to me either brings up pointless things like my childhood or goes on about depression. It's quite funny actually people seem to get off being inflicted with pain that others give them but get upset if they find out if someone does it to themselves. Is it perhaps equalivant to masterbation, they believed that was once a sign of mental illness you know.

I personally like women giving me pain, cutting me, beating me, torturing while I am helplessly in her grasp.

However sometimes inflicting it on the self is fun as well, I fail to see whats wrong with this. BTW homosexuality, lesbianism is also considered a mental illness by some professionals. Maybe some people need medication for that as well.
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I can't imagine why therapy and meds don't work for you, seeing as you are so dismissive.

I know a lot of people who have done SI, none of them seem to think it's a great thing, it's just a thing. Yeah, it's annoying when the overeager professional thinks that a cut is going to lead to suicide -- that's not always the case, but no one I know was adamant that this was great and good and a really good long term coping strategy, and they'd tell anyone who said so to pull their head out their ass and wake up.

I play with 2 girls who have done SI. Both of them see the SI they have done as completely separate, distinct, different, and completely UN related to the needles, beatings, and cuttings of the BDSM they have done. If they feel themselves at all in that headspace, they do not want to go there.
 
Netzach said:
I can't imagine why therapy and meds don't work for you, seeing as you are so dismissive.

I know a lot of people who have done SI, none of them seem to think it's a great thing, it's just a thing. Yeah, it's annoying when the overeager professional thinks that a cut is going to lead to suicide -- that's not always the case, but no one I know was adamant that this was great and good and a really good long term coping strategy, and they'd tell anyone who said so to pull their head out their ass and wake up.

I play with 2 girls who have done SI. Both of them see the SI they have done as completely separate, distinct, different, and completely UN related to the needles, beatings, and cuttings of the BDSM they have done. If they feel themselves at all in that headspace, they do not want to go there.
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Have you noticed their need to SI less when play is regular? Just wondering.
 
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