Suicide...lets talk: why do people do this?

Fala

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Arrived to the office today to learn that one of our employees had taken his life over the weekend. There was no indication on Thursday (last day he worked) that anything at all was wrong.

He missed work over the weekend and our manager called him this morning to ask what was up....the call was answered by a very distraught mother who had found him the day before.

He had worked for us just over a year....very good empoyee...never any problems.

I just don't understand why people do this. He was only 24. I want to cry.
 
One of my guy friends in high school shot himself in the head on Halloween of our senior year...no one saw it coming and no one ever understood why he did it. And we'll never know.

As bad as I feel for him because of the pain he must've been in to do something like that, I can't help but think of how selfish it was. He left a lot of unanswered questions...and a lot of devastated people.
 
LeahLo519 said:
One of my guy friends in high school shot himself in the head on Halloween of our senior year...no one saw it coming and no one ever understood why he did it. And we'll never know.

As bad as I feel for him because of the pain he must've been in to do something like that, I can't help but think of how selfish it was. He left a lot of unanswered questions...and a lot of devastated people.

Exactly. Selfish because they care only about themselves and cowards because they can't face lifes hardships. I have no sympathy for suicides. The families, yes. The ones who kill themselves, no.
 
Having dealt with major depression for a long time now and having been suicidal I can tell you the last thing they think about is being selfish. Most just want the emotional pain to end and see no other way out.
I'm sure sometimes there are no signs but a lot of time the signs go un-noticed and sometimes they are hidden very well.
 
It's not selfish, they aren't thinking clearly. I know two people that committed suicide and they were the most unselfish people I've ever knew but their depression got the best of them. I will not judge them because I did not go through what they went through or feel what they felt.
 
KRCummings said:
Exactly. Selfish because they care only about themselves and cowards because they can't face lifes hardships. I have no sympathy for suicides. The families, yes. The ones who kill themselves, no.


Try it sometime and see how well you cope when your chemical imbalance overides your normal thought patterns.
 
Darwinism...

And yes, I've had people close to me pull that shit.....

It's the absolute in self criticism.. :D
 
hydrex said:
Having dealt with major depression for a long time now and having been suicidal I can tell you the last thing they think about is being selfish. Most just want the emotional pain to end and see no other way out.
I'm sure sometimes there are no signs but a lot of time the signs go un-noticed and sometimes they are hidden very well.

I didn't say they are being intentionally selfish but the act is. Complete disregard for other peoples feelings.
I was an EMT and saw my share of suicides. In every single case it was very obvious that the person did not consider anyone but themselves and their pain.
I'm outta this thread now though. I tend to piss people off on this subject because I have strong feelings about it.
No offense meant to anyone here of course, just my opinion.
 
When life and living doesn't matter any more, it becomes easy to think that checking out is a logical step.
 
hydrex said:
Try it sometime and see how well you cope when your chemical imbalance overides your normal thought patterns.

I do have depression. I see a doctor and take my meds.
 
The question is.....

"If you found out you had a terminal disease, would you choose a quicker, natural death over slowing it down over months/years with meds?"

There's a fine line between suicide because of weakness, and allowing your death instead of fighting the inevitable and burdening your kin..

:D
 
Another thing I've realized is that people who go as far as to kill themselves have a really fucked up mentality (obviously) but it goes farther than just being unhappy or "sad". People who kill themselves are so caught up in what is probably pointless despair that they don't stop and think about anything except for how miserable they are...they don't think about their families and they don't think about the future because if they did, they'd know that there is no such place as rock bottom...and no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse...therefore there really isn't a good enough reason to be that depressed...

I dunno, maybe my logic is fucked.
 
hydrex said:
Try it sometime and see how well you cope when your chemical imbalance overides your normal thought patterns.

Hey Hydrex...is there a sign for us tho? Why don't those who have reached these depths of depression tell us...let us know somehow. Or do they just not want to? We are all mourning here for our friend/employee. We are devastated. Not to mention....his family.
 
KRCummings said:
I didn't say they are being intentionally selfish but the act is. Complete disregard for other peoples feelings.
I was an EMT and saw my share of suicides. In every single case it was very obvious that the person did not consider anyone but themselves and their pain.
I'm outta this thread now though. I tend to piss people off on this subject because I have strong feelings about it.
No offense meant to anyone here of course, just my opinion.


It's a bit offensive but I know that you don't mean to be mean. I guess it's not something any of us will understand since none of us have comitted suicide. But I do not think it is selfish or cowardly, maybe I'm just biased and I don't want to think that about them, who knows.
 
Lost Cause said:
The question is.....

"If you found out you had a terminal disease, would you choose a quicker, natural death over slowing it down over months/years with meds?"

There's a fine line between suicide because of weakness, and allowing your death instead of fighting the inevitable and burdening your kin..

:D

Yeah, I know I said I was leaving this thread but I gotta answer this one.

For me the answer is to live to the end because I don't belive in suicide for any reason. However, for the sake of argument I'd say it would depend on the quality of life for those months or years. If I could be treated and live reasonably well then I'd do it. If it meant the whole time in a bed being cared for by others then assisted suicide might be the way to go.
I understand people in cetain circumstances like those. I don't condone it but I understand it.
 
Fala said:
Hey Hydrex...is there a sign for us tho? Why don't those who have reached these depths of depression tell us...let us know somehow. Or do they just not want to? We are all mourning here for our friend/employee. We are devastated. Not to mention....his family.

I think there are always signs but people don't tend to look for them. Hindsights 20/20 and I'm sure his family and close friends could pin point certain things now that would make them see that he was depressed but sometimes people are so caught up in their own world that they don't pay that much attention to the small things going on with their loved ones.
 
There are lots of reasons...

Sometimes it's weakness sometimes it's self-centerness, sometimes it's shallowness.....

but sometimes...it's because unfortunately for some, being dead is better than being alive.
 
Bohemian Blue said:
There are lots of reasons...

Sometimes it's weakness sometimes it's self-centerness, sometimes it's shallowness.....

but sometimes...it's because unfortunately for some, being dead is better than being alive.

What he said
 
oh please every single one of you should pull the plug , except kelly, she has a great cunt, i'd do her even if she was dead.
 
adajh588 said:
I think there are always signs but people don't tend to look for them. Hindsights 20/20 and I'm sure his family and close friends could pin point certain things now that would make them see that he was depressed but sometimes people are so caught up in their own world that they don't pay that much attention to the small things going on with their loved ones.

sadly so :(
 
Fala said:
Hey Hydrex...is there a sign for us tho? Why don't those who have reached these depths of depression tell us...let us know somehow. Or do they just not want to? We are all mourning here for our friend/employee. We are devastated. Not to mention....his family.

Staying home a lot, not talking to people, not smiling, no interaction with others or limited interaction.

Drinking, smoking, sometimes just about anything that cuts them off from others. The problem is a lot of depressed people hide it well because they don't want to be a burden.

One thing is for sure when you get to a level of depression and you try or succeed in commiting suicide you're not in your right mind.

I never wanted to bother others with my problems and I felt it was worthless to try to get help. I felt like life was over and it wouldn't get any better.
 
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