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False binary. Climate change is mostly natural, but the human part of it is enough to cost lives and money in drowned cities, failed crops, and generally battered infrastructure.
Ignoring Climate Change is Stupid!
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False binary. Climate change is mostly natural, but the human part of it is enough to cost lives and money in drowned cities, failed crops, and generally battered infrastructure.
No, you're just a presumptuous asshole....same as ever.
5000....that's an awfully small system, subsidized or manufactured by slaves and with a total disregard for the environment.
And even then, that's quite a chunk of change for most wage slaves to get together up-front.
Your feelings aside, the grid is still the most affordable way to power your average home, especially in suburban/urban environments, for the less than affluent folks.
Especially folks who don't live in a ultra sunny environment.
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When I got my first panels it was $8.00 a watt, my last array I paid $1.50 a watt. Everything now is dirt cheap. I even switched over my secondary bank inverter to pure sine, same as the main bank. I don't even want to say how much the price difference ( savings) was between 2006 and 2018....
Oh and I am NORTH of Minnesota...
The human part of it is more than enough, although in fairness to you, humans are pare of nature so......
I would also add that after cities drown, crops fail, STATES BURN, and infrastructure gets battered, economies can be crushed and people can get pretty desperate.
Desperate people sometimes do desperate things; like rioting, looting, and killing.
Cause and effect.
Kinda like 400 years of racist oppression can lead desperate people to riot, loot, and kill.
Cause and effect.
1.50 a watt?? That's insane....you must mean kwH, which is still bad, I pay 11.3 cents.
Also Canada almost certainly subsidized it somehow....an average middle class 3/2 2000 sq ft working/middle class house setup still cost as much as a mid sized SUV. Something the vast majority of people have to finance.
And still....you don't draw a whole lot of power do you??
Sure as shit isn't powering 40,000 watts pulling about 200 amps for 12 hrs a day, gay-Ron-Tee that. It would cost deep six figures to put a solar farm together here in MN that could power that shit.
One can argue that renewables are a viable option under certain circumstances....some 1200 sqft shit shack in the deserts of the SW where it's sunny 363 days a year?? Sure. If you have the money that's a great idea.
You can't however argue that they are cheaper or even cleaner than nuclear at a scale that can power everyone's residential, commercial, agricultural and industrial needs at a sane price. Not without looking like an ignorant fool anyhow.
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WHile people are ignoring Climate Change, it is happening and has real consequences!
Antarctica’s glacier-damming ice shelves at risk
Goodbye Miami!
trumptards don't do science.
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"Sane price" is the key term here. There is a short term price, and then there is a long term price. You can steal from future generations to cop a cheap price in the short term, or you can carefully consider what is sustainable in the long term.
The people who think in extremes and denigrate the adoption of renewable energy as some sort of return to cave cultures are doing a great disservice to future generations. For example, when people develop their own home energy systems, they quickly learn how much energy is simply wasted through thoughtlessness and gluttony.
Every little bit of renewable energy and demand-side conservation helps. The "ignorant fools" are the ones who take pride in gluttony and in denying the human contribution to climate change.
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The climate changes throughout World history with huge consequences to life, civilizations, and the environment. The idea however, that we can do anything about it, or that we caused it, is a fairy tale. This narrative is nothing more than a scheme to acquire power by a social elite determined to dictate the economic and social environment the people of the World will live under. It is a plan for social control writ large and an attack on your liberty. Follow the money.
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Did you notice that a Canadian was arrested at the border who tried to assassinate our President with an envelope full of Ricin?
Yea, that's what I thought.....get back to me when you have at least a BASIC understanding of any science discipline.
Nah I missed that, he's got leftist unhinged on a global scale....it's glorious.
I hope they stay triggered long enough to get him re-elected.
What was the last greenhouse period called in Earth's History?
What was it's period (time) and cause?
Today's greenhouse period? What time scale and what are the possible causes?
I can provide numerous examples of how human activity causes atmospheric warming so be for warned.
What was it's period (time) and cause?
Today's greenhouse period? What time scale and what are the possible causes?
I can provide numerous examples of how human activity causes atmospheric warming so be for warned.
Nuclear is the most sustainable.....practical and environmentally safe option we have right now.
And the cheapest both short and long term.
It won't be stealing from future generations......that's what a 200 TRILLION dollar "Green New Deal" would be.
How so? The renewables are NOT CAPABLE of powering 1st world life.
That's an individual ting.
I don't need my own green home energy systems, I had a working class Korean father who informed me each and every time I got lit up for leaving lights on, doors open or touched the thermostat exactly why he was putting a belt across and a boot up my ass.
30 years later, I'm married to a Jewish woman who also was informed as to why she was getting her ass kicked for wasting electricity as a child.
We don't let our kids get away with that shit either....if they don't turn their shit off they lose it....if they don't shut the fuckin' door? Heavy objects get thrown at them...because STUPID should hurt.
I doubt their kids will be wasteful little fuckers either, as they will almost certainly grow up to partner up with other competent adults with whom to breed. No solar power needed....just some basic family values, like not being gluttonous wasteful fucks.
Helps what??
Green energy companies....that's it.
It is a deadly sin......
They aren't any worse than the people who overhype it to make a buck or grab for power.
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Yea, that's what I thought.....get back to me when you have at least a BASIC understanding of any science discipline.
Nah I missed that, he's got leftist unhinged on a global scale....it's glorious.
I hope they stay triggered long enough to get him re-elected.
Get a look at the butch bitch:
https://i.imgur.com/UUnMwbml.jpg
Typical wild eyed rabid man hating leftist.
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How many science degrees do you have??
As many as donald trump. The difference is I listen to people who know stuff that I don't. I am smart enough to not listen to people that have a track record of bullshitting.
It is funny what one runs across when there login drops off. Like idiotic trolls such as bottomboy above....
Like this, I post that in 2006 I paid $8.00 a watt for my panels in 2006 and $1.50 a watt in 2018. Bottomboy reads this...
No Bottomboy, I paid $8.00 a watt, solar panels are sold by the WATT. So in 2006 I paid $800.00 for a 100 watt solar panel. In 2018 I paid 150.00 for the same 100 watt solar panel.
Now I have no fucking clue what the idiot is talking about below..it has nothing to do with being off grid, and owning your own renewable energy system...
If he means did the Government subsidise my system...no they did not. It cost me a total of just over 15K. 10 k back in 2006 and since then I added in a new 3600 AH battery bank, pure sine inverter, and 1000 watts more of panels. That was the other 5K.
I use about 10-15 kilowatts a day. Depends on what your doing, however I do not have 1 ghost load in the entire system. Everything is on power bars. Lights are all LED, and appliances are all low power consumption energy star. Well the microwave isn't but it was a gift.
Ok so a little lesson in ohm's theory for you bottomboy. E=IxR, P=ExI.
200 A x 240 V= 48,000 watts PER HOUR....not 40,000 watts in 12 hrs, fuck you are stupid.... BTW you would need a battery bank of 24,000 AH to do that, cost of the bank is $24,320.00 +$3,200.00 for the cores. Inverter would set you back about 15K, solar panels about 120K. That assumes you are going to use that system to deliver 200 amps. Highly unlikely...for sure an idiot like you never would.
Yep you sure can argue, you never win, but you like to argue....
BTW this just shows how fucking stupid you really are about how a renewable system works.... maybe do some reading and you will realise how fucked up that last little titbit I quoted was....*chuckles*
14.4 Billion dollars for the Darlington nuclear plant. It Generates 11,104 MW.
That works out to a purchase cost of $1,296.82 w. I paid $8.00 a watt, hmmmm
so your a grad student working on a PH.D...not in electronics, that is for fucking sure....
Now, back to ignore...I'll remember to log in next time I clean out my cookies, so I won't have to witness first hand the stupidity that is BottomBoy.....now if the rest of you would put his sorry worthless ass on ignore, I'd never have to see those stupid words of his, quoted ever again.
363 days in a year...go figure....
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An example/model of climate change...since Mr Stinky Tofu with two degrees needs a shot at answering even a basic science question.
Do large cities produce heat Islands that inturn, create distinct and measurable weather patterns due to this capture and release of heat?
Are cities man-made?
Are weather patterns consistent/predictable and measurable across any city of comparable size with regard to this heat Island affect?
Do large cities produce heat Islands that inturn, create distinct and measurable weather patterns due to this capture and release of heat?
Are cities man-made?
Are weather patterns consistent/predictable and measurable across any city of comparable size with regard to this heat Island affect?
just FYI
the climate has always changed
Ronald Reagan commissioned a group of the world's leading scientist to investigate climate change (yes before Al Gore invented global warming) and the group of scientists went to both poles and cored ice as deep as possible which they determined was about 100,000 years worth
they sliced up the ice and analyzed it and determined that the shifts in earth conditions were consistently erratic and that temperature changes were consistently random over 100,000 years
what is something that everyone SHOULD be concerned about is the content of CO2 in the atmosphere.....if you want to be an alarmist and worry about something.....that is a good one to focus on. the fact is that the CO2 content in the air we breathe has increased exponentially and consistently over the past 20 years at a rate that is simply unsustainable......assuming we all want to keep breathing.....as with most things - it is helpful to understand what is actually going on and what is important versus the rhetoric and politically slanted BS
if carbon emissions are not curtailed and are allowed to increase at the current rate, the level of water on earth will be irrelevant
hence the elitists wanting to reduce the earth's population to about 750,000.....which would definitely solve the problem......for them
the climate has always changed
Ronald Reagan commissioned a group of the world's leading scientist to investigate climate change (yes before Al Gore invented global warming) and the group of scientists went to both poles and cored ice as deep as possible which they determined was about 100,000 years worth
they sliced up the ice and analyzed it and determined that the shifts in earth conditions were consistently erratic and that temperature changes were consistently random over 100,000 years
what is something that everyone SHOULD be concerned about is the content of CO2 in the atmosphere.....if you want to be an alarmist and worry about something.....that is a good one to focus on. the fact is that the CO2 content in the air we breathe has increased exponentially and consistently over the past 20 years at a rate that is simply unsustainable......assuming we all want to keep breathing.....as with most things - it is helpful to understand what is actually going on and what is important versus the rhetoric and politically slanted BS
if carbon emissions are not curtailed and are allowed to increase at the current rate, the level of water on earth will be irrelevant
hence the elitists wanting to reduce the earth's population to about 750,000.....which would definitely solve the problem......for them
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And oil refineries and combustion engines are made with kitten smiles and unicorn fluff.
Let's see, the batteries are lead/acid. Mostly made now from recycled old sulphate batteries.
The solar panels from aluminum ( recycled) glass ( recycled) the silica comes from sand.
The inverters and charge controllers are made from electronic components. Mine are now solid state, switched mosfets. Less mining for the electronic components than goes into your common everyday IPhone.
So once again Ziggins you spout out bullshit, about a subject you obviously know nothing about...
