The Infamous Russian Dossier

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The reason this is all hitting the news big-time now is because Fusion GPS - the main player in the whole deal - has to produce its banking records (who paid exactly what, exactly when) to the US House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on Monday. Then, sometime later next week, the FBI has to start testifying to the same Committee regarding its role in this highly politicized drama.

There're two separate chapters to this story. The first began in October 2015 when Republican-partisan website the Washington Free Beacon retained Fusion GPS to do political opposition research on Republicans running for that Party's presidential nomination in the last election. The WFB was founded as a non-profit with never-Trumper Bill Kristol among its original backers; it's now a for-profit with "GOP mega-donor [and never-Trumper] Paul Singer" allegedly funding it. Singer supported Marc Rubio for the Republican nomination. After Ted Cruz dropped out of the race on May 3, with John Kasich dropping out the next day and leaving Trump as the obvious GOP nominee, the Washington Free Beacon ended its retainer with Fusion GPS.

But the second stage - The Dossier Chapter - of this story had already started writing itself a month earlier when Fusion GPS began shopping its Trump-specific research to the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, who were already aware by then that Trump was the most likely GOP nominee. The first $ payments from the Clinton campaign/DNC to Fusion GPS began in April 2016 specifically to dig up political dirt on Trump.

Hardly a month after Trump had the GOP nomination in the bag, Fusion GPS then hired Orbis Business Intelligence (a British company) to begin compiling what we now know as "the dossier", which was to focus squarely on Trump ties to Russia. This is the beginning of "Russiagate", its dossier steered by Orbis' owner and ex-MI-6 Russia desk boss Christopher Steele, a foreign agent who then compensated other foreign agents, many employed by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (spies). Within a month, Steele produced and then began shopping the dossier's main conclusion: that Trump had been compromised by Russia and was highly susceptible to blackmail by them. And thus, "Russiagate" began.

The real thing about this dossier is that, even though it was compiled in less than a month from highly dubious sources with their own unique political reasons for participating, the dossier was deemed credible enough that the Obama Justice Department, the FBI, and the so-called "intelligence" community began acting on it as the justifiable source to obtain surveillance warrants to begin spying on American citizens, with the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States of America as their main target.

Byron York of the Washington Examiner is a good reporter to follow to keep up on what's going down with this humongous story, and The Daily Caller's Chuck Ross put together this timeline today to provide a general encapsulation:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/f...lycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

The gist: Democrats employed foreign agents to intentionally produce from other foreign agents negative information about the Republican presidential nominee, and then the Democrat Obama administration ordered the full federal investigation of that Republican presidential nominee on no other evidence but the now infamous dossier compiled totally by foreign agents, containing reports from Russian foreign/enemy agents.

Isn't it ironic that the entire scam was to indict Trump for colluding with the Russians when it was Hillary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party apparatus - including the sitting Democratic President - who colluded with Russian spies to base their entire sham upon?
 
The reason this is all hitting the news big-time now is because Fusion GPS - the main player in the whole deal - has to produce its banking records (who paid exactly what, exactly when) to the US House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on Monday. Then, sometime later next week, the FBI has to start testifying to the same Committee regarding its role in this highly politicized drama.

There're two separate chapters to this story. The first began in October 2015 when Republican-partisan website the Washington Free Beacon retained Fusion GPS to do political opposition research on Republicans running for that Party's presidential nomination in the last election. The WFB was founded as a non-profit with never-Trumper Bill Kristol among its original backers; it's now a for-profit with "GOP mega-donor [and never-Trumper] Paul Singer" allegedly funding it. Singer supported Marc Rubio for the Republican nomination. After Ted Cruz dropped out of the race on May 3, with John Kasich dropping out the next day and leaving Trump as the obvious GOP nominee, the Washington Free Beacon ended its retainer with Fusion GPS.

But the second stage - The Dossier Chapter - of this story had already started writing itself a month earlier when Fusion GPS began shopping its Trump-specific research to the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, who were already aware by then that Trump was the most likely GOP nominee. The first $ payments from the Clinton campaign/DNC to Fusion GPS began in April 2016 specifically to dig up political dirt on Trump.

Hardly a month after Trump had the GOP nomination in the bag, Fusion GPS then hired Orbis Business Intelligence (a British company) to begin compiling what we now know as "the dossier", which was to focus squarely on Trump ties to Russia. This is the beginning of "Russiagate", its dossier steered by Orbis' owner and ex-MI-6 Russia desk boss Christopher Steele, a foreign agent who then compensated other foreign agents, many employed by the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (spies). Within a month, Steele produced and then began shopping the dossier's main conclusion: that Trump had been compromised by Russia and was highly susceptible to blackmail by them. And thus, "Russiagate" began.

The real thing about this dossier is that, even though it was compiled in less than a month from highly dubious sources with their own unique political reasons for participating, the dossier was deemed credible enough that the Obama Justice Department, the FBI, and the so-called "intelligence" community began acting on it as the justifiable source to obtain surveillance warrants to begin spying on American citizens, with the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States of America as their main target.

Byron York of the Washington Examiner is a good reporter to follow to keep up on what's going down with this humongous story, and The Daily Caller's Chuck Ross put together this timeline today to provide a general encapsulation:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/28/f...lycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

The gist: Democrats employed foreign agents to intentionally produce from other foreign agents negative information about the Republican presidential nominee, and then the Democrat Obama administration ordered the full federal investigation of that Republican presidential nominee on no other evidence but the now infamous dossier compiled totally by foreign agents, containing reports from Russian foreign/enemy agents.

Isn't it ironic that the entire scam was to indict Trump for colluding with the Russians when it was Hillary Clinton and the entire Democratic Party apparatus - including the sitting Democratic President - who colluded with Russian spies to base their entire sham upon?

Good synopsis, but I would add that there is no evidence of any foreign agents except Steele in this mess. Are we to believe that he has a series of emails with FSB agents from Russia? Because Russia is a place Steele has not been able to go for a long time. There's no documentary evidence that any of Steele's stories came from anywhere but his ass.
 
No, it was a rogue lawyer with no oversight who purchased the dossier. It is a lot like the Lois Lerner situation when she took matters into her own hands with no oversight. That's just government for you, its incompetent, not criminal, 'cept for Trump. He's a rapist.
 
Good synopsis, but I would add that there is no evidence of any foreign agents except Steele in this mess. Are we to believe that he has a series of emails with FSB agents from Russia? Because Russia is a place Steele has not been able to go for a long time. There's no documentary evidence that any of Steele's stories came from anywhere but his ass.

Your totally impotent synopsis, otoh, is entirely without any basis at all. You really need to convince your mind to do something about that.

How good were these sources? Consider what Steele would write in the memos he filed with Simpson: Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.” And both of these insiders, after “speaking to a trusted compatriot,” would claim that the Kremlin had spent years getting its hooks into Donald Trump.

Source E was “an ethnic Russian” and “close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald Trump.”

This individual proved to be a treasure trove of information. “Speaking in confidence to a compatriot,” the talkative Source E “admitted there was a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation between them [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership.” Then this: “The Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to the WikiLeaks platform.” And finally: “In return the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltic and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine.”

Then there was Source D, “a close associate of Trump who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow,” and Source F, “a female staffer” at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton hotel, who was co-opted into the network by an Orbis “ethnic Russian operative” working hand in hand with the loquacious Trump insider, Source E.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele
 
And let's not forget, aside from the Democrats conspiring with Russians to subvert our election process, Comey, Lynch, Obama, may have knowingly taken this false dossier to a federal judge for FISA warrants to attack the constitutional rights of their political opponents and upset the election results. Jeff Sessions needs to go and find out what Michael Mukasey is doing these days and appoint him Special Prosecutor in this case with wide authorities over the federal bureaucracy including the DOJ, FBI, and the Intel community.
 
You cannot criminalize the administration for doing its due diligence especially since Trump insisted on surrounding himself with people who worked closely with the oligarchs of the Putin Mafia.
 
Good synopsis, but I would add that there is no evidence of any foreign agents except Steele in this mess. Are we to believe that he has a series of emails with FSB agents from Russia? Because Russia is a place Steele has not been able to go for a long time. There's no documentary evidence that any of Steele's stories came from anywhere but his ass.

That would be my guess. I assume that he wanted to be the next John Lecarre but a wise publisher took a look at his scribblings and told him he had no future as a writer.

You ever met a pathological liar who delights in telling the biggest, least believable whopper? He had to be giggling that they were paying him for what he had to say.
 
Your totally impotent synopsis, otoh, is entirely without any basis at all. You really need to convince your mind to do something about that.

It is not credible that top officials were so cheerfully chatty about such an operation, if true, about a possible POTUS.
 
You cannot criminalize the administration for doing its due diligence especially since Trump insisted on surrounding himself with people who worked closely with the oligarchs of the Putin Mafia.

Stop it. There is no evidence of Trump collusion with Russians. There is no precedent for the use of national intelligence assets against a political opponent in the history of US presidential politics before Obama either. If any official knowingly presents phony evidence to a federal judge in order to obtain a warrant, especially a FISA warrant, he exposes himself to a whole new raft of federal statute violations.:D
 
Except for the parts of the dossier that have been proven to be true.

*nods*
You have a curiously low bar for "proof" of anything involving Trump and a curiously high bar for proven allegations about Clinton.

There is no dispute, just for example, that The Clinton Foundation and her husband was paid millions by actual Russians while she was involved with making decisions that mattered financially to those same Russians and strategically favored the Russian government. *not concerned*
 
Disclaimer:

The last time I voted was 2000.

The USA PATRIOT Act enacted in 2001 cemented that fact.

On December 7, 2005, I seceded politically from the United Socialist State of America, and have lived self-exiled in the very badlands of the TexMex desert since May of 2008.

I cherish my INDEPENDENT, OBJECTIVE observer status steered directly by my personal principle that individual liberty for all is the ONLY politic worth living and dying for.

Every individual who votes automatically resigns any possibility of being an objective observer in any way, as they overtly reveal their political subjectivity by who/what they vote for.
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-campaign-platform-rnc-jd-gordon-2017-9

The Trump campaign's national-security policy representative for the Republican National Convention said Friday that he gave campaign colleagues the chance to "intervene" when an amendment to the GOP's draft policy on Ukraine was introduced in Cleveland last July.

The original amendment, which proposed that the GOP commit to sending "lethal weapons" to the Ukrainian army to fend off Russian aggression, was ultimately altered to say "provide appropriate assistance" before it was included in the party's official platform.

GOP delegate Diana Denman, the author of the original amendment, told Business Insider earlier this year that national-security policy representative J.D. Gordon and another Trump campaign representative "jumped up and tore over to get behind the three co-chairmen" of the GOP's national-security subcommittee when the amendment was read out loud.
 
Your totally impotent synopsis, otoh, is entirely without any basis at all. You really need to convince your mind to do something about that.




How good were these sources? Consider what Steele would write in the memos he filed with Simpson: Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.” And both of these insiders, after “speaking to a trusted compatriot,” would claim that the Kremlin had spent years getting its hooks into Donald Trump.

Source E was “an ethnic Russian” and “close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald Trump.”

This individual proved to be a treasure trove of information. “Speaking in confidence to a compatriot,” the talkative Source E “admitted there was a well-developed conspiracy of cooperation between them [the Trump campaign] and the Russian leadership.” Then this: “The Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to the WikiLeaks platform.” And finally: “In return the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defense commitments in the Baltic and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine.”

Then there was Source D, “a close associate of Trump who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow,” and Source F, “a female staffer” at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton hotel, who was co-opted into the network by an Orbis “ethnic Russian operative” working hand in hand with the loquacious Trump insider, Source E.


And then you prove my point.
 
And then you prove my point.

Really? Here's your point again:

there is no evidence of any foreign agents except Steele in this mess.

I then provide "evidence" of whom Steele states his foreign agent sources were, directly dismissing your totally erroneous claim that such "evidence" does not exist.

You understand that you (or anyone else) believing the "evidence" is true or not is an entirely different "point" than the concretely presented evidence itself, right?
 
Really? Here's your point again:



I then provide "evidence" of whom Steele states his foreign agent sources were, directly dismissing your totally erroneous claim that such "evidence" does not exist.

You understand that you (or anyone else) believing the "evidence" is true or not is an entirely different "point" than the concretely presented evidence itself, right?

No, you provide a fabulous tale of vaguely described anonymous sources. This is even less well supported than Saddam's "weapons of mass destruction," and we know how that turned out. This is the same kind of bullshit- unsupported accusations so that the credulous can believe what they want to believe.
 
Whatever it takes to depose 'Rump and all his minions. I don't care who else goes with them.

'Rump must be forced to live out his days in complete shame.
 
No, you provide a fabulous tale of vaguely described anonymous sources. This is even less well supported than Saddam's "weapons of mass destruction," and we know how that turned out. This is the same kind of bullshit- unsupported accusations so that the credulous can believe what they want to believe.

Except that foreign agent Steele definitively provides his exact foreign agent sources. Again: whether you, I or anyone else "believes" him is an entirely different "point".

And you maintaining that there's no truth to the "evidence", when you have no way of knowing that or not, simply shows the inanity of your own fallacy projection.

You're about as objective as a unicorn fart.
 
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