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RJMasters said:If you try it, please test it out on yourself first to ensure you understand its proper use and limitations. I would also love to hear any feedback from those who try it out.
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neonflux said:RJ, do you have a basic book of knots that you can recommend? I've gone to a couple of workshops and have some good books, but it would be nice just to practice and learn what all of the knots are called (please pardon if you've posted that somewhere else on the thread)...Neon
Shankara20 said:*off to get my rope away from the cats*
neonflux said:RJ, do you have a basic book of knots that you can recommend? I've gone to a couple of workshops and have some good books, but it would be nice just to practice and learn what all of the knots are called (please pardon if you've posted that somewhere else on the thread)...Neon
**sigh**RJMasters said:Never underestimate those boy scouts.![]()
I am retired from rope work, etc.RJMasters said:Hope the references help and please if you work on a particular knot and you really like it, come share it here with me so i can look into it as well.
JMohegan said:I am retired from rope work, etc.
However, next time I speak to someone who has questions about bondage, I will definitely point them in the direction of this thread.
Nice work, RJ.
JMohegan said:he made me feel beautiful."
Quite welcome, as always. Thank you, Shankara.Shankara20 said:This post just took my breath away, thank you JM.
Thank you. I bookmarked it and am practicing.RJMasters said:From that same source
Take a look at the breastplate section
http://www.realknots.com/knots/breastpl.htm
I have been working on a body harness or two that incorporates that into it. I think it will make for some great rope work.
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JMohegan said:I visited an old friend of mine last weekend. In the midst of exchanging holiday cheer, etc., we spent some time reminiscing.
Decades ago, this guy was the worldwide Wizard of Rope as far as I was concerned. A former boyscout and a guy of incredible patience and enthusiasm, who just loved to see what he could do with knots, tension vs. slack, etc.
I told him about you, RJ, and asked if he had any suggestions for additions to your collection of supplies. He said: "A full-length mirror. Not attached to a door or the wall, but one he can lift and turn sideways to show his wife just how gorgeous she is when bound. Works best in combination with sincere observations on how hot she looks as well as verbal and physical expressions of appreciation."
He then brought out an album of photographs taken of his own wife in bondage, some of which are more than two decades old and taken with a Polaroid camera. Not lewd shots and not graphic images of suffering as in Ito's drawings, but photographs of sensual elegance, similar to the one shown in this post.
Ironically, his wife was initially terrified of being restrained. Not terrified of *him*, but terrified of what the bondage represented and the way she would look and feel when "all tied up". The patience that this guy brought to bear in learning skill with the rope was doubly tested in convincing her to be the subject for his work.
I asked her how she learned to be comfortable with and eventually love erotic bondage. She smiled and said, "He treated me as his own personal Work of Art. As if I were the canvas and the rope was the paint. He made me feel needed, because after all - paint without canvas is nothing, right? He made me feel needed and appreciated, but most of all.... he made me feel beautiful."
JMohegan said:I visited an old friend of mine last weekend. In the midst of exchanging holiday cheer, etc., we spent some time reminiscing.
Decades ago, this guy was the worldwide Wizard of Rope as far as I was concerned. A former boyscout and a guy of incredible patience and enthusiasm, who just loved to see what he could do with knots, tension vs. slack, etc.
I told him about you, RJ, and asked if he had any suggestions for additions to your collection of supplies. He said: "A full-length mirror. Not attached to a door or the wall, but one he can lift and turn sideways to show his wife just how gorgeous she is when bound. Works best in combination with sincere observations on how hot she looks as well as verbal and physical expressions of appreciation."
He then brought out an album of photographs taken of his own wife in bondage, some of which are more than two decades old and taken with a Polaroid camera. Not lewd shots and not graphic images of suffering as in Ito's drawings, but photographs of sensual elegance, similar to the one shown in this post.
Ironically, his wife was initially terrified of being restrained. Not terrified of *him*, but terrified of what the bondage represented and the way she would look and feel when "all tied up". The patience that this guy brought to bear in learning skill with the rope was doubly tested in convincing her to be the subject for his work.
I asked her how she learned to be comfortable with and eventually love erotic bondage. She smiled and said, "He treated me as his own personal Work of Art. As if I were the canvas and the rope was the paint. He made me feel needed, because after all - paint without canvas is nothing, right? He made me feel needed and appreciated, but most of all.... he made me feel beautiful."
That's good to know. You're welcome.RJMasters said:Thank you for sharing this as it touched me.
JMohegan said:That's good to know. You're welcome.
RJ, a photograph posted on Shank's thread is prompting the following question. What have you read about skin that turns blue/purple from bondage?
I was taught that the blue/purple color means the ropes are too tight and should be loosened or removed immediately. From a safety perspective, pink & red are ok colors, but blue & purple are not. Have you read anything about this?
My apologies for taking so long to reply to your reply.RJMasters said:Sorry JM for taking so long to reply to this.
That is helpful information, no doubt. Thanks for posting it.RJMasters said:From Jay Wiseman's Erotic Bondage Handbook pg 224 concerning breast bondage.
Because constrictive breast bondage may inhibit venous return (the escape of blood from the tissue), the breasts may swell somewhat in size and become a bluish or redish color. This is usually harmless unless it lasts for prolonged periods of time. (the basic parameter of this book is that no bondage will be left for longer than two hours.)
Danger signs that the breast bondage has been on for too long or is too tight would be a feeling of tingling or numbness in the breasts, or the appearance of an aching, genuinely unerotic pain in them. If this pain cause the bottom to feel nauseated, it is definately time to loosen the associated bondage - and all other bondage as well.
In the photograph, the breasts don't look "bluish and red" to me. They look purple. Given the admonitions with which I was taught, I would not have paused to snap a photo in that situation. Instead, I would have removed the ropes at once.RJMasters said:Though I have not had the experience of binding breast as shown in Explaura's pic, based off of Jay's instruction, it is typical for breasts especially larger ones to swell and have some bluish and red color to them.
JMohegan said:My apologies for taking so long to reply to your reply.
I frankly forgot I had asked you about this, and was only reminded when I noticed this new thread on the board.
That is helpful information, no doubt. Thanks for posting it.
In the photograph, the breasts don't look "bluish and red" to me. They look purple. Given the admonitions with which I was taught, I would not have paused to snap a photo in that situation. Instead, I would have removed the ropes at once.
However, color in photographs can be misleading and everyone has different standards or policies when it comes to safety. I'm not wagging a finger here, just giving a different point of view.
JMohegan said:That's good to know. You're welcome.
RJ, a photograph posted on Shank's thread is prompting the following question. What have you read about skin that turns blue/purple from bondage?
I was taught that the blue/purple color means the ropes are too tight and should be loosened or removed immediately. From a safety perspective, pink & red are ok colors, but blue & purple are not. Have you read anything about this?
Ditto from me on both counts.Netzach said:Personally, I'm not into the purple choked off tit look, so I don't know much about the safety concerns therein.
Very interesting information. Thanks for posting it.Netzach said:What I learned from the rope people I work with -- the hardcore ropistas, as opposed to people into SM who use bondage.......
Netzach said:YMMV and there are safety issues present in breast bondage unique to that situation -- everyone will play to the risk level they are comfortable with. Personally, I'm not into the purple choked off tit look, so I don't know much about the safety concerns therein.
What I learned from the rope people I work with -- the hardcore ropistas, as opposed to people into SM who use bondage --- is that color means jack.
Obviously, if color change is totally outside my bottom's comfort level I'll adust it. But basically discoloration means there is some oxygen choking going on.
Unless you are leaving that tie there for multiple hours, it's not going to do damage. Numbness, likewise, indicates nothing. Uncomfortable yes, but not damaging in the timeframe of normal ties (15-45 min) The likelihood of necrosis is often extremely *exaggerated* in certain circles.
If your bottom is freaking out because something's numb and cold, or you know that's outside her comfort zone, adjust it. If you're with a serious and experienced rope freak who's on the same page, you can leave it. Unless it hurts.
What you *do* need to be completely and obsessively vigilant about is nerve damage. Nerve damage can happen in 3 seconds, it is indicated by the presence of shocking, sudden "bad pain" (even major masos who have been hurt this way in bondage report if being un fun) and it's due mainly to *bad rope placement* over the pathways of major nerves.
Places like hips, wristbones, and the divet below the bicep, the backs of the knees --these are not load bearing points or point where bondage should be really tight because of the relationship between bone and nerve.
Netzach said:Most of this is info I gleaned at events and through hands-on workshops - I'm an experiential learner - this is the crib sheet penned by the guy I learned suspension from.
http://www.bdsm-chicago.com/cram/MED_medical.html