AwkwardMD AI Rejection Help Desk

[GrantBricksly]

So, It's been over a month now since I first wrote the story/chapters that were originally rejected for AI. (It took almost a month before I got the rejection.) After getting the rejection, and looking (but not finding an editor) and coming here and getting some very good advice, I decided perhaps it was time to go back and re-write the story/chapter piece-by-piece.

This would: A: give me a Document with timestamped edits that would show/prove my edits.
and B: maybe help fix problems.

And oh my god did it help.

After a month away from it, going through and re-writing it, was like looking at it with fresh eyes...and I found SOOOOOO many mistakes....and I'm pretty sure i found a few that might just have been flagged as potential "AI" Thing like:

1: I had a grouping of three paragraphs that was repeated twice in a row. Actually I found that two different times.
2: I found a few instances where I made common AI mistakes like Having my MFC running around topless, but three paragraphs before that, I had her putting her shirt on.. AI is famous for forgetting crucial details like that. (Unfortunately so am I when I stop writing for an entire week, get super busy, and then start again.)
3: I found an entire section just completely missing from my story. And not just a minor section. But like, Halfway through a sex scene, it just stops. Things are heating up real good, and then suddenly, they are all just laying there on the bed relaxing, with nothing in between...I know I wrote the rest of the sex scene....but I don't know where it went....

Anyway...I've now fixed all of those issues, had a bunch of smaller stuff I found that i wanted to tweak, a few repetitive word choices, things like that, and now I am feeling better about it. I think I'll have my wife look it over tonight, and then submit it in the morning.

If anyone is interested in giving it once over for me, Let me know.

 

[AwkwardMD]

So, It's been over a month now since I first wrote the story/chapters that were originally rejected for AI. (It took almost a month before I got the rejection.) After getting the rejection, and looking (but not finding an editor) and coming here and getting some very good advice, I decided perhaps it was time to go back and re-write the story/chapter piece-by-piece.

This would: A: give me a Document with timestamped edits that would show/prove my edits.
and B: maybe help fix problems.

And oh my god did it help.

After a month away from it, going through and re-writing it, was like looking at it with fresh eyes...and I found SOOOOOO many mistakes....and I'm pretty sure i found a few that might just have been flagged as potential "AI" Thing like:

1: I had a grouping of three paragraphs that was repeated twice in a row. Actually I found that two different times.
2: I found a few instances where I made common AI mistakes like Having my MFC running around topless, but three paragraphs before that, I had her putting her shirt on.. AI is famous for forgetting crucial details like that. (Unfortunately so am I when I stop writing for an entire week, get super busy, and then start again.)
3: I found an entire section just completely missing from my story. And not just a minor section. But like, Halfway through a sex scene, it just stops. Things are heating up real good, and then suddenly, they are all just laying there on the bed relaxing, with nothing in between...I know I wrote the rest of the sex scene....but I don't know where it went....

Anyway...I've now fixed all of those issues, had a bunch of smaller stuff I found that i wanted to tweak, a few repetitive word choices, things like that, and now I am feeling better about it. I think I'll have my wife look it over tonight, and then submit it in the morning.

If anyone is interested in giving it once over for me, Let me know.

It sounds like you found a lot worth fixing! That's fantastic!

Good luck, and keep us posted when you resubmit it!

 

[StillStunned]

Anyway...I've now fixed all of those issues, had a bunch of smaller stuff I found that i wanted to tweak, a few repetitive word choices, things like that, and now I am feeling better about it. I think I'll have my wife look it over tonight, and then submit it in the morning.

Before you submit your story, run it through Read Aloud or another text-to-speech program. Don't zone out, but watch the highlight jump from word to word. It forces you to see what's on the page, not what you think you wrote. It's great for spotting typos and clumsy phrasing, but it's also good for showing inconsistencies and incomplete sections.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Before you submit your story, run it through Read Aloud or another text-to-speech program. Don't zone out, but watch the highlight jump from word to word. It forces you to see what's on the page, not what you think you wrote. It's great for spotting typos and clumsy phrasing, but it's also good for showing inconsistencies and incomplete sections.

Excellent self-editing technique

 

[StillStunned]

Excellent self-editing technique

I've been using it for my professional editing for at least seven years now. I sometimes wonder how I managed without.

 

[GrantBricksly]

Before you submit your story, run it through Read Aloud or another text-to-speech program. Don't zone out, but watch the highlight jump from word to word. It forces you to see what's on the page, not what you think you wrote. It's great for spotting typos and clumsy phrasing, but it's also good for showing inconsistencies and incomplete sections.

I'll have to remember that... But that one will have to wait a bit... Right now I have young kids in the house... and they won't be gone until Saturday. And Saturday, I leave for vacation...lol

My wife is usually pretty good at catching things like that too though. So for this one, I'll let her (and I did find one more person who is looking at it for me) but in the future, for other chapters/stories, I will definitely do that.

 

[sinfantasy]

If anyone is interested in giving it once over for me, Let me know.

First, I am not an editor and my grammar sucks. So don't, expect corrections or comments.

As for my creds, I had my review piece rejected twice for AI flag. I think I have managed to make it work on my fifth rewrite (It's still pending but given It's in Reviews and Essays, it might stay there for a while.)

I can read through your story and make general suggestions. PM me if that works for you.

 

[sinfantasy]

@GrantBricksly - I'm not an expert on the subject, but I don't think your draft as is will fly.

Let's put the plot and sexual elements aside for now. I found it difficult to follow "who is who" and "what they are up to". Also your writing is way to polished in certain sections and quite bland on immediate next. That's a big problem, not only for AI filters but also for a reader.

It's up to you if you want to take my advice or not but here is how I will go about it. First, I would scrap this draft all together and start with a notepad. I would write the bullet points on what I want to present in my story. I would make it detailed with every nuance and smaller detail I want to present. Then, I would give it some time to think over what I have listed before writing it.

Also, I would strongly recommend you follow @StillStunned's advise and use read aloud feature to listen your own writing. If it doesn't sound right to you, it wont sound right to reader's as well.

Hope this helps!

 

[AwkwardMD]

@GrantBricksly - I'm not an expert on the subject, but I don't think your draft as is will fly.

Let's put the plot and sexual elements aside for now. I found it difficult to follow "who is who" and "what they are up to". Also your writing is way to polished in certain sections and quite bland on immediate next. That's a big problem, not only for AI filters but also for a reader.

It's up to you if you want to take my advice or not but here is how I will go about it. First, I would scrap this draft all together and start with a notepad. I would write the bullet points on what I want to present in my story. I would make it detailed with every nuance and smaller detail I want to present. Then, I would give it some time to think over what I have listed before writing it.

Also, I would strongly recommend you follow @StillStunned's advise and use read aloud feature to listen your own writing. If it doesn't sound right to you, it wont sound right to reader's as well.

Hope this helps!

That is outside the scope of this thread.

 

[sinfantasy]

That is outside the scope of this thread.

Noted. Don't want to set wrong expectations with anyone else requesting help here.

 

[iwannadobadthingswithyou]

This is a theoretical question, so feel free to ignore if you think it's outside the scope of the thread.

I write directly in the editor on this website. I don't upload or copy/paste my work from anywhere else so, in case one of my stories gets flagged, there's not change history I can show as proof. Do you know if the Literotica editor can function as such? Does it store some info on how much time was spent actively writing on a story, how many times it was saved etc.?

 

[PennyThompson]

This is a theoretical question, so feel free to ignore if you think it's outside the scope of the thread.

I write directly in the editor on this website. I don't upload or copy/paste my work from anywhere else so, in case one of my stories gets flagged, there's not change history I can show as proof. Do you know if the Literotica editor can function as such? Does it store some info on how much time was spent actively writing on a story, how many times it was saved etc.?

Please oh please don't write your stories directly into the story interface

As far as we know it has no history or analytics function like you're thinking, so it would not give you any recourse if you needed to prove your writing effort.

But more importantly, there have been too many horror stories of people losing hours and hours of writing because they didn't have their text saved somewhere. The Drafts space on Lit is not designed to be a text editor. There's no auto-save function, and no guarantee that it will maintain your text over time.

Use a cloud-based editor like Google Docs or something, and then paste your story into Lit when you're ready to publish!

 

[iwannadobadthingswithyou]

Use a cloud-based editor like Google Docs or something

Ugh, I purposely avoid using word editors like Word or Google Docs. I don't know why, but I need an interface as simple as possible. One that doesn't try to format text for you, doesn't entice you with bold or italics options etc. If I didn't write in the editor on the website I would write in Notepad which would be equally useless in case I needed to prove my work.

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll try to think of a solution, maybe I can find a stripped down editor online that tracks changes.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Ugh, I purposely avoid using word editors like Word or Google Docs. I don't know why, but I need an interface as simple as possible. One that doesn't try to format text for you, doesn't entice you with bold or italics options etc. If I didn't write in the editor on the website I would write in Notepad which would be equally useless in case I needed to prove my work.

Thanks for the advice, though. I'll try to think of a solution, maybe I can find a stripped down editor online that tracks changes.

Google Docs will not attempt to seduce you with fancy formatting. The options are there, but it’s not in your face. It is my word processor of choice, FWIW.

The Lit text editor does not do what you are hoping it does.

 

[sinfantasy]

Ugh, I purposely avoid using word editors like Word or Google Docs. I don't know why, but I need an interface as simple as possible. One that doesn't try to format text for you, doesn't entice you with bold or italics options etc. If I didn't write in the editor on the website I would write in Notepad which would be equally useless in case I needed to prove my work.

A basic editor with tracking capabilities sounds like an odd combination... but I would recommend hemingwayapp for online writing. It's not basic, but I believe it should fit your requirements.

If you want an offline tool that helps you write distraction-free and has a clean interface, my personal favorite is the Scrivener App. Mind you, it's not a simple editor. It's a full-featured writing software used for writing epic-length novels. It only has a basic spell checker built in. It's quite dated, though, and will flag lingo and new words as mistakes.

Now, if you really want to track all changes, you won't find anything better than Google Docs online.

 

[ElectricBlue]

This is a theoretical question, so feel free to ignore if you think it's outside the scope of the thread.

I write directly in the editor on this website. I don't upload or copy/paste my work from anywhere else so, in case one of my stories gets flagged, there's not change history I can show as proof. Do you know if the Literotica editor can function as such? Does it store some info on how much time was spent actively writing on a story, how many times it was saved etc.?

Don't do this!!! There's no auto-save, and if the server crashes, there's your effort, lost forever. Write on your own device, using whatever software you use (I use a free Word clone, which works just fine), and only ever use the Form for what it's designed for - copy, paste, final review or quick edit, and submission.

 

[SaraLab]

In my experience, even a well known verified editor doesn't help much. And Laurel won't click on links, or download files, which means Google docs histories won't help either.

 

[AwkwardMD]

In my experience, even a well known verified editor doesn't help much. And Laurel won't click on links, or download files, which means Google docs histories won't help either.

You're so close. All the pieces are right there in this reply.

Laurel doesn't want to do that herself, but if a VE could check it out and vouch for it, personally, that's a different story.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

Hi, I was referred to this thread for help and guidance. I have a story that was rejected because of alleged AI use. I am a writer in "real life" with multiple publications and do not use AI. I do my writing in LibreOffice and the only checker I use is the very rudimentary spell checker in Libre. All my grammar checking is my own by eye, and since I don't have a ton of time to devote to this endeavor, my grammar checking and general editing isn't actually up to my usual standards, I will admit.

A summary of the rejected story is below. I also have read FrancesScott's recent thread about what triggers AI, which was interesting. Before I started making any changes, I wanted to follow up on this thread, and then I may reach out to a VE if you folks think it is needed. Many thanks for any guidance and thoughts.

SUMMARY: The story is part 4 of my thread "The A in DNA", an anal, lesbian incest story, that is sort of transitioning into a fantasy story. In this episode, the main character (a cockgirl) and her birth mother and grandmother with whom she was reunited previously in the series, discover the secret basement studio & dungeon of a grand-aunt who is controlling the family's fortunes. They are caught by the grand-aunt's daughter, and they begin plotting the take down of the controlling grand-aunt. They also discover a family prophecy that the main character appears to be at the center of. Lots of freaky sex ensues, and biological changes happen to some of the characters, including the main character.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Hi, I was referred to this thread for help and guidance. I have a story that was rejected because of alleged AI use. I am a writer in "real life" with multiple publications and do not use AI. I do my writing in LibreOffice and the only checker I use is the very rudimentary spell checker in Libre. All my grammar checking is my own by eye, and since I don't have a ton of time to devote to this endeavor, my grammar checking and general editing isn't actually up to my usual standards, I will admit.

A summary of the rejected story is below. I also have read FrancesScott's recent thread about what triggers AI, which was interesting. Before I started making any changes, I wanted to follow up on this thread, and then I may reach out to a VE if you folks think it is needed. Many thanks for any guidance and thoughts.

SUMMARY: The story is part 4 of my thread "The A in DNA", an anal, lesbian incest story, that is sort of transitioning into a fantasy story. In this episode, the main character (a cockgirl) and her birth mother and grandmother with whom she was reunited previously in the series, discover the secret basement studio & dungeon of a grand-aunt who is controlling the family's fortunes. They are caught by the grand-aunt's daughter, and they begin plotting the take down of the controlling grand-aunt. They also discover a family prophecy that the main character appears to be at the center of. Lots of freaky sex ensues, and biological changes happen to some of the characters, including the main character.

Hello!

While the information in FrancesScott's thread on the subject might be relevant to academia or the AI detection world at large, I have reason to believe that is not how it works here at Lit. For a while I tried to fight misinformation like that, but I don't have the bandwidth to gatekeep every well-meaning yet incorrect opinion on the subject.

Hence, I made my own thread.

In the opening post, I was pretty clear that the point of this thread is to help people who broke the rules without realizing that's what they were doing, or without realizing Literotica had rules on the matter at all. Rules were never announced, per se, merely added to Literotica's FAQ and then enforced. Currently, the FAQ states that the rules may continue to evolve on the fly, as AI writing is an emerging technology. It's perfectly reasonable for an author to use some writing tools they view as "assistance" only to run afoul of Laurel's system, and those are the authors I'm in a position to help.

If you know what you did wrong, I can help. If you don't, I can't. I have sympathy for "I accepted all of Grammarly's suggestions." I know what the AI detector is looking for, and I know what it means if it found it.

This is not to say that there are not conditions that could trigger a false positive, but the balance of probability suggests that "I don't know why I got rejected for AI" is more often "I got rejected for using AI, but I don't want to/can’t admit that now after pretending I didn’t at the start." The conditions to trigger a false positive are specific. Given your writing method as described above, I'd put the chances at Unlikely At Best.

That being said, I can't rule it out entirely. The possibility of a false positive still exists, so my advice to you is to try to find some way to establish your creative timeline. I'm not familiar with LibreOffice or its features, but if you can show that you wrote this story 200 words at a time, some here and some there, over a period of days, weeks, and/or months (instead of all at once, over a period of 20 minutes, generated by a prompt), that could be useful.

 

[YourDirtyLittleIssues]

Thank you. I appreciate your candor, and I also appreciate your indicating this is not the appropriate thread for my issue. My apologies, I will no longer haunt this thread.

Unlikely as it may be, and regardless of whether or not I am believed, I do not nor have I ever used AI nor any of these tools outlined above for writing purposes. I only have two versions of the story in question over two days archived on my laptop. In much of my writing I keep daily copies every day I write, but when I have been messing with erotica, I haven't. Live and learn.

So I appear to be at a dead end. I again, most sincerely, thank you for your thoughtful and considerate response.

 

[txblush]

@AwkwardMD
Hi, do you know if using Word's Editor is considered using AI?
I've been looking through the different posts and it seems to me that the sites' policy might not apply to that one, but I'd like to be sure before I submit a piece I'm working on.
Thank you.

 

[AwkwardMD]

@AwkwardMD
Hi, do you know if using Word's Editor is considered using AI?
I've been looking through the different posts and it seems to me that the sites' policy might not apply to that one, but I'd like to be sure before I submit a piece I'm working on.
Thank you.

I would say the line is fuzzier. If Word's built-in editor is suggesting typo corrections, or minor things like changing had to have, that's fine. If Word is suggesting to rewrite entire sentences, if not paragraphs, that's a problem.

 

[txblush]

I would say the line is fuzzier. If Word's built-in editor is suggesting typo corrections, or minor changing had to have, that's fine. If Word is suggesting to rewrite entire sentences, if not paragraphs, that's a problem.

Thank you. I appreciate your taking the time to reply to my question.

 

[Anjalisinha]

Hi, I can use your help
I’m a new author here.

I had posted on the LIT forum earlier, and someone kindly commented with a link to this forum post suggesting I reach out to you directly.

My story which was chapter 3rd of my on going series, was sent back by the LIT team, and the reason they provided was

“If you are allowing a grammar check program to ‘rewrite’ your words or rephrase your text, that may cross the line into AI generated text/stories (since substantial parts of the final draft may not be written by you).”

My story is completely written by me.
I only used the free version of Grammarly to catch basic typos and small grammar mistakes—nothing was rewritten or rephrased by any tool.

You above suggest this - document with change tracking enabled so Laurel
Am ready to this but my words file doesn’t show this or am mot able find it google search.

It does shows I spent 3098 hours to write the story under info section I saw while finding above

My forums post

My work