Hugs and random non-sex chat aka Our Court aka Hoes and Bros who empower each other

[TXRafe]

I'm very sorry my silly joke set off such unhappiness.

Rafe, I don't want to speak for Mia, but the thing that I noticed that could be interpreted as misogynistic was when you went from teasing about me offering to give a blowjob and you being "willing" to submit. That implies that women are here to perform blowjobs, and you get to decide whether you "submit" to one. It is a complete twisting of anything that has to do with submission in the context of D/s relationships.

I responded with further jokes because I believe you didn't intend offense. But Mia is right - it's important for you to understand why it was offensive. And it seems you DO want to understand, which is a good thing. My tendency to laugh things off isn't always best, and sometimes doesn't really reflect how I'm feeling.

I hope peace can return to our little world. It's a good discussion to have, because we can't have peace if we don't understand the other people in our world.

i wanted to send this in a pm, but here is fine too. in no way was what i was joking about meant to be interpreted as misogynistic...there was meant to be no implication that a womans place is on her knees performing any act. a womans place is where ever she f$%%ing pleases. that your life experience with men forces me to have to clarify that is unfortunate and sad, though i am sure it is the experience of most women. that is simply not me. again, for me, the person performing the act is in the dominant position, the person receiving the act is in the submission position. i appreciate you speaking up if i did make you feel uncomfortable or if you did take it that way. fuck any man or person who has treated you in a way that even makes it an option in your mind based on what i said and or was trying to say. always feel free to speak your mind to anyone, im not giving you permission, you dont need my f$%^ing permission. as far as getting to "decide" whether or not i "submit" to something, damn right i get to decide, so do you, so does everyone else. that you would be upset about that again points to the bigger issue that while i am empathetic towards, i am not a part of and will not be made to feel a part of, thus all this blabbering. i really do think im done now. thank you ladies, i think youve given everyone a lot to think about, but i hope that you and anyone else that reads this understands EXACTLY what it is i am and have been saying.

 

[DeeDeeX2]

So, are there any Dodgers fans out there?

 

[Boat1]

So, are there any Dodgers fans out there?

Deleted my fatfinger mistake.... Had you on my mind, wondering about the resupply journey...

 

[DeeDeeX2]

Deleted my fatfinger mistake.... Had you on my mind, wondering about the resupply journey...

Good work @Boat1 . You saved yourself just before my wrathful reply about Yankees fans.

 

[Boat1]

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Good work @Boat1 . You saved yourself just before my wrathful reply about Yankees fans.

Lol... I was thinking about you, on your journey, had just read a post of Holly's....
2+2=5.... and THIS is the result of a 1:12 sleep:awake ratio!

 

[Boat1]

I will renew my interest in sports, when and only when, they hire me "The Hangman" and the politicians to provide the halftime "entertainment!"

So, are there any Dodgers fans out there?

 

[HollyS]

Well, it's Friday night at last! (Sorry, WhiskeyJack)

It was a bit of a stressful day in the Court, and your Alchemist is ready for some stress relief - I want to dance!

So here's the first song. Please add yours if you feel inclined!

 

[HollyS]

One more for the court, though I get the feeling the DJs playing to an empty room!

 

[Boat1]

One more for the court, though I get the feeling the DJs playing to an empty room!

I'm thinking that @Dirtygirlndeer might dance to that one with you, Holly! She LOVES Her some Santana!

 

[Boat1]

I'm thinking that @Dirtygirlndeer might dance to that one with you, Holly! She LOVES Her some Santana!

Sorry I can't contribute any music right now, but this WiFi is severely jacked up out here.....

 

[HollyS]

Sorry I can't contribute any music right now, but this WiFi is severely jacked up out here.....

No worries, Boat! I'm about to log off in a bit, anyway. Got some dancing to do.

Have a good night!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'm not much in a dancing mood. I'm more in a lay back, relax, and sip on some whisky with my feet in front of the fireplace kind of mood. Something nice and slow to cap off the night.

 

[MiaBabe23]

i wanted to send this in a pm, but here is fine too. in no way was what i was joking about meant to be interpreted as misogynistic...there was meant to be no implication that a womans place is on her knees performing any act. a womans place is where ever she f$%%ing pleases. that your life experience with men forces me to have to clarify that is unfortunate and sad, though i am sure it is the experience of most women. that is simply not me. again, for me, the person performing the act is in the dominant position, the person receiving the act is in the submission position. i appreciate you speaking up if i did make you feel uncomfortable or if you did take it that way. fuck any man or person who has treated you in a way that even makes it an option in your mind based on what i said and or was trying to say. always feel free to speak your mind to anyone, im not giving you permission, you dont need my f$%^ing permission. as far as getting to "decide" whether or not i "submit" to something, damn right i get to decide, so do you, so does everyone else. that you would be upset about that again points to the bigger issue that while i am empathetic towards, i am not a part of and will not be made to feel a part of, thus all this blabbering. i really do think im done now. thank you ladies, i think youve given everyone a lot to think about, but i hope that you and anyone else that reads this understands EXACTLY what it is i am and have been saying.

Hi!
If this needs to continue, I’m gonna label this chat closed and stay away

This started as a non-sex chat thread precisely to try to avoid the insults, tensions and unpleasantness like misogynistic jokes that can happen elsewhere, and to avoid the unease that then comes with thinking, oh, shall I respond, shall I pretend it’s okay hearing this for the nth time, and then responding to the ‘not-offended-but…’ responses that follow

You said quite rightly you wanted to move on, but the thread is getting cluttered by it again

Yes, I don’t have to read it
But yes, I still dislike that it’s this big a deal for you to acknowledge that teasing that women want to submit, but getting irritated if we tease back by saying you want to do the same, is exactly the kinda thing I created this thread to avoid

Can we move on? Please?

 

[DeeDeeX2]

Hi!
If this needs to continue, I’m gonna label this chat closed and stay away

This started as a non-sex chat thread precisely to try to avoid the insults, tensions and unpleasantness like misogynistic jokes that can happen elsewhere, and to avoid the unease that then comes with thinking, oh, shall I respond, shall I pretend it’s okay hearing this for the nth time, and then responding to the ‘not-offended-but…’ responses that follow

You said quite rightly you wanted to move on, but the thread is getting cluttered by it again

Yes, I don’t have to read it
But yes, I still dislike that it’s this big a deal for you to acknowledge that teasing that women want to submit, but getting irritated if we tease back by saying you want to do the same, is exactly the kinda thing I created this thread to avoid

Can we move on? Please?

I agree 100% with Mia on this.

We could instead talk about that boring World Series game last night with the ho-hum ending.

 

[MiaBabe23]

As a kid in the 70s, I could take the copper core (modern) quarter to town and buy a full size bottled Coke and a full size Snickers bar (.15 and ,10 respectively) and at 3% sales tax, the store owner was kind enough to "round down" on the penny.
What would that cost me today? 4 bucks and 10% tax...
Inflation is a silent, sanctioned thief.

It's what funds an out of control Govt.

But inflation makes debt repayments costlier, reduces the value of land and capital, so doesn’t help government funding…

 

[MiaBabe23]

I agree 100% with Mia on this.

We could instead talk about that boring World Series game last night with the ho-hum ending.

But I stopped caring about that months ago because the Red Sox were eliminated!!

 

[DeeDeeX2]

But I stopped caring about that months ago because the Red Sox were eliminated!!

Last night's game will go down in history books as one of the top 5 baseball games ever played.

 

[MiaBabe23]

I'm very sorry my silly joke set off such unhappiness.

Rafe, I don't want to speak for Mia, but the thing that I noticed that could be interpreted as misogynistic was when you went from teasing about me offering to give a blowjob and you being "willing" to submit. That implies that women are here to perform blowjobs, and you get to decide whether you "submit" to one. It is a complete twisting of anything that has to do with submission in the context of D/s relationships.

I responded with further jokes because I believe you didn't intend offense. But Mia is right - it's important for you to understand why it was offensive. And it seems you DO want to understand, which is a good thing. My tendency to laugh things off isn't always best, and sometimes doesn't really reflect how I'm feeling.

I hope peace can return to our little world. It's a good discussion to have, because we can't have peace if we don't understand the other people in our world.

Holly, it would be absurd to suggest your joke was to blame; it wasn’t
As to your other points. You’re a good hearted and patient person, and always see the best in people

 

[Dirtygirlndeer]

I'm thinking that @Dirtygirlndeer might dance to that one with you, Holly! She LOVES Her some Santana!

I would definitely be dancing to this one!

 

[Boat1]

TTh

I agree 100% with Mia on this.

We could instead talk about that boring World Series game last night with the ho-hum ending.

There's a World Series going on?

 

[Boat1]

True, but given precious metals etc are finite and dwindling, I wonder if it could be a problem?
But admittedly fiat money can be more inflationary than other types - but I’m not convinced that’s happened?

I recently saw a screenshot of an online "Inflation Calculator" similar to a mortgage calculator.
$1 million, held in 1996, today, has the purchasing power of just a hair over $500k.

 

[MiaBabe23]

Last night's game will go down in history books as one of the top 5 baseball games ever played.

I’m not sure I would recognize the difference…!

 

[Boat1]

But inflation makes debt repayments costlier, reduces the value of land and capital, so doesn’t help government funding…

It Treasury Bills (T-Bonds) that facilitates spending $$ they don't have... Specifically called "Monetizing the debt."

 

[MiaBabe23]

It Treasury Bills (T-Bonds) that facilitates spending $$ they don't have... Specifically called "Monetizing the debt."

Probably missing something, but I’m not sure how that responds to my point about governments not benefiting from inflation?

 

[Boat1]

Probably missing something, but I’m not sure how that responds to my point about governments not benefiting from inflation?

Yes Ma'am, I should've clarified that better. Govts. Create debt, but they really don't HAVE debt... They simply place the debt onto us, our kids, and grandkids...
Think of it as "Blame Shifting" on a massive scale, in dollars.