Why Biden Will Win

[adrina]

 

[ll74]

I hope he does.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Do people bother watching the 100s of youtube videos you keep posting?

 

[AlexBailey]

The only way Biden could win is if enough voters realize senility is less of a threat to the United States than fascism.

 

[ll74]

Btw - he talks a lot about polls and models. Aren't those wrong?

Also - if you don't use either, aren't you just going off of what they feel?

 

[adrina]

Btw - he talks a lot about polls and models. Aren't those wrong?

Also - if you don't use either, aren't you just going off of what they feel?

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Allan Lichtman's work or the 13 keys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

I know you like podcasts, so here is one from two days ago featuring him. (Disclaimer - I am not familiar with the host and only listened to the beginning to make sure it was a discussion about the 13 keys.)

 

[ll74]

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Allan Lichtman's work or the 13 keys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keys_to_the_White_House

I know you like podcasts, so here is one from two days ago featuring him. (Disclaimer - I am not familiar with the host and only listened to the beginning to make sure it was a discussion about the 13 keys.)

Thank you. I would appreciate this in my podcast thread as well, if you wouldn't mind.


My gripe is that without polls, you rely on voting trends based on data that fluctuates more than polling.

I have no issue including his data into polling data, but I refuse to ignore polling data.

 

[adrina]

Thank you. I would appreciate this in my podcast thread as well, if you wouldn't mind.


My gripe is that without polls, you rely on voting trends based on data that fluctuates more than polling.

I have no issue including his data into polling data, but I refuse to ignore polling data.

Took me a bit to find it but I did.

Thing is though if polls aren't accurate - and they have been wildly and broadly incorrect - then they aren't able to be used as data. At least not reliable and actionable data.

I would encourage you to look at more than just the polls. Especially given their history over the past decade. Additionally... we are in July. The election is in November. Polling this early is historically not a good predictor.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The only way Biden could win is if enough voters realize senility is less of a threat to the United States than fascism.

Biden being senile is a right-wing lie . It's not true.

 

[ll74]

Took me a bit to find it but I did.

Thing is though if polls aren't accurate - and they have been wildly and broadly incorrect - then they aren't able to be used as data. At least not reliable and actionable data.

I would encourage you to look at more than just the polls. Especially given their history over the past decade. Additionally... we are in July. The election is in November. Polling this early is historically not a good predictor.

I look at more than polls. I don't ignore, like .any on the left seem to do, that people are concerned about Biden's age.

And yes,.Trump is old too, but the thing I listen to most is that the left seems to regard 45 as a threat to democracy. If this is the case, why would any of you tell me that the VALID concern about Biden's age is not something to consider and ALSO why I should NOT consider an alternative?


Fucking
PICK
A
LANE

Or stfu with your bullshit about Trump

I have and you fuckers need to stop telling me otherwise.

 

[dmallord]

Okay. My lane runs straight to the November election–I'm ridin' with Biden. Not the felon or January 6th insurrection instigator.

BTW, Trump has so much bull that we'll have enough fertilizer for every farmer in America by November when he loses.

 

[adrina]

I look at more than polls. I don't ignore, like .any on the left seem to do, that people are concerned about Biden's age.

And yes,.Trump is old too, but the thing I listen to most is that the left seems to regard 45 as a threat to democracy. If this is the case, why would any of you tell me that the VALID concern about Biden's age is not something to consider and ALSO why I should NOT consider an alternative?


Fucking
PICK
A
LANE

Or stfu with your bullshit about Trump

I have and you fuckers need to stop telling me otherwise.

I am in and have always been in the Biden lane.

I think going with another candidate is election suicide.

I think the reaction to that stupid debate is overblown.

People are less concerned about Biden's age than they are Trump's threat to our country.

I'll never "STFU" about Trump. As long as he is the candidate then Trump will always be part of the conversation. I personally don't think Biden is losing senile or suffering from dementia. I do think that Trump is suffering from dementia and I'll say it as often as I want to whenever I want to. If you don't like it, tough beans.

The biggest threat to Biden is the (mostly Trump supporting) media feeding frenzy and this incessant picking at him. We need a party civil war like we need a fucking whole in the head. Logistically there is no Plan B. There is no logistical path to another candidate. Instead we'll end up with no candidate running against Trump in many states. That's where we are headed with this stupid argument. It's too goddamn late to have the willies.

 

[adrina]

I look at more than polls. I don't ignore, like .any on the left seem to do, that people are concerned about Biden's age.

And yes,.Trump is old too, but the thing I listen to most is that the left seems to regard 45 as a threat to democracy. If this is the case, why would any of you tell me that the VALID concern about Biden's age is not something to consider and ALSO why I should NOT consider an alternative?


Fucking
PICK
A
LANE

Or stfu with your bullshit about Trump

I have and you fuckers need to stop telling me otherwise.

And you're fucking welcome for finding your pod thread and posting to it.

 

[subdudeme13]

I really really hope Biden wins.

 

[adrina]

I asked if you would...you not wanting to contribute information is not my issue. My thread is not about my position or yours....it's about providing information. You refusing to do so is about you, not me.

You making your beef with me is personal. I have no beef with you or anyone else here outside of providing objective information to voters. Whining does nothing, being partisan does nothing.....telling people to vote and giving them information is what I want.

Apparently no one taught you manners. Here's a refresher, when you ask someone to do something and they do it, the common response is "thank you" or at least an acknowledgement.

I am not sure why you said I don't want to contribute information. As I posted in it.

Another manners lesson: this is where you would apologize.

You are the one whining in my opinion.

 

[ll74]

Apparently no one taught you manners. Here's a refresher, when you ask someone to do something and they do it, the common response is "thank you" or at least an acknowledgement.

I am not sure why you said I don't want to contribute information. As I posted in it.

Another manners lesson: this is where you would apologize.

You are the one whining in my opinion.

Sorry, you did. I missed that.. sorry. I'll delete my post.

 

[YDB95]

Do people bother watching the 100s of youtube videos you keep posting?

I watch them when I have time, albeit not this one because I'm already familiar with Prof. Lichtman.

 

[adrina]

Sorry, you did. I missed that.. sorry. I'll delete my post.

Thank you. No problem.

 

[Lazaran]

.
Polls are shit - as has been explained.

And yet:

"Some people" insist on using polls / shit as an ingredient in their “elections outcomes Chile' recipe. with the expectation that the next batch will yield a result that isn’t "off" (tainted by polls / shit.)

"Some people" are crazy…and stubborn…and dumb.

 

[subdudeme13]

I look at more than polls. I don't ignore, like .any on the left seem to do, that people are concerned about Biden's age.

And yes,.Trump is old too, but the thing I listen to most is that the left seems to regard 45 as a threat to democracy. If this is the case, why would any of you tell me that the VALID concern about Biden's age is not something to consider and ALSO why I should NOT consider an alternative?


Fucking
PICK
A
LANE

Or stfu with your bullshit about Trump

I have and you fuckers need to stop telling me otherwise.

Trump is not fit to be President. On a scale of 1 to 10 he is a zero. He called our fallen service men suckers and losers. He said John McCain is not a hero "In his mind"! No, Cadet Bone Spurs should not be able to scrub the floors in the White House.
Biden has the wisdom that comes with age and knows how to get things done and move the country along.

 

[jaF0]

There is only one poll that matters.

 

[ll74]

Trump is not fit to be President. On a scale of 1 to 10 he is a zero. He called our fallen service men suckers and losers. He said John McCain is not a hero "In his mind"! No, Cadet Bone Spurs should not be able to scrub the floors in the White House.
Biden has the wisdom that comes with age and knows how to get things done and move the country along.

I've never said Trump is fit to be President.

 

[subdudeme13]

I watch them when I have time, albeit not this one because I'm already familiar with Prof. Lichtman.

I watched some Bob Newhart videos.

 

[subdudeme13]

I've never said Trump is fit to be President.

Great!

 

[ll74]

Great!

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