project 2025... brown shirts and black boots

It would seem that Jones and Fuentes would know enough to know what the plan was on playing dumb about Project 2025 until after Trump is elected.
They also know Trump well enough to know he's not smart enough to be that strategic. If he says he's backing off, he probably really is.
 
They also know Trump well enough to know he's not smart enough to be that strategic. If he says he's backing off, he probably really is.
Naw, I think if he gets elected, he'll let the dogs out on Project 2025. He doesn't have to do more than sign papers.
 
Naw, I think if he gets elected, he'll let the dogs out on Project 2025. He doesn't have to do more than sign papers.
Probably. But that's neither here nor there with respect to the point I'm making. (You do, though, bring up an important related point: what Trump says right now doesn't really have any bearing on what he'll actually do if he gets the chance.)
 
Probably. But that's neither here nor there with respect to the point I'm making. (You do, though, bring up an important related point: what Trump says right now doesn't really have any bearing on what he'll actually do if he gets the chance.)
"If he says he's backing off, he probably really is," is quite contrary to what I believe and what I have posted, and you quote what I've posted, so I responded to that. I don't really know what different point you were making.

If Trump gets elected, I do, in fact, believe that Plan 2025, and worse, will be pursued by his administration--and that he'll let that happen.
 
"If he says he's backing off, he probably really is," is quite contrary to what I believe and what I have posted, and you quote what I've posted, so I responded to that. I don't really know what different point you were making.

If Trump gets elected, I do, in fact, believe that Plan 2025, and worse, will be pursued by his administration--and that he'll let that happen.
My point is that I don't believe Trump is being strategic here. Trump doesn't plan, he reacts. What we're seeing right now is a reaction to the reality that Plan 2025 is getting a (well deserved) bad rap and he knows it. That has nothing to do with what he'll do if elected, since for now it's all about getting elected. So I agree with you regarding what will happen if he gets back in office. But I don't think he's lying about backing off right now - I think he really is backing off. But he'll have forgotten all about that by January.
 
My point is that I don't believe Trump is being strategic here. Trump doesn't plan, he reacts. What we're seeing right now is a reaction to the reality that Plan 2025 is getting a (well deserved) bad rap and he knows it. That has nothing to do with what he'll do if elected, since for now it's all about getting elected. So I agree with you regarding what will happen if he gets back in office. But I don't think he's lying about backing off right now - I think he really is backing off. But he'll have forgotten all about that by January.
Convicted felon Donald J. Trump is in this race solely for himself. He reflexively rejects anything he personally did not come up with (or take credit for). Notice how he spent his four years in office tearing down (or attempting to tear down) anything and everything that Barack Obama created. Some things convicted felon Donald J. Trump was extremely successful at doing (tearing down Obama's virus early warning system, which caused the botched Covid response of 2020) and some things he failed spectacularly at ("repeal and replace" Obamacare).

The Right Wing fascistas want to have an authoritarian policy guide in place in the event that convicted felon Donald J. Trump is installed by the Supreme Court, and some of the platforms in Project 2025 are toxic even to the small but growing segment of Republicans who publicly embrace the swastika. At a feral level, convicted felon Donald J. Trump recognizes this, he understands that abortion in particular is fucking radioactive. His Christian Zealot contingent don't understand, if you're going to criminalize abortion, why can you not "punish the whore" as well?
 
My point is that I don't believe Trump is being strategic here. Trump doesn't plan, he reacts. What we're seeing right now is a reaction to the reality that Plan 2025 is getting a (well deserved) bad rap and he knows it. That has nothing to do with what he'll do if elected, since for now it's all about getting elected. So I agree with you regarding what will happen if he gets back in office. But I don't think he's lying about backing off right now - I think he really is backing off. But he'll have forgotten all about that by January.
He's doing here what he's seen work for him. He's lying about backing policy he'll be fine with letting his funders try to implement if he gets into office. He's in conman "go fund me" mode, not tactical vs. strategic.
 
Yup! Disarm Israel
If that was our point you win
It’s not
But? Nice try deciding what we think
Where did the million souls in Rafa go??

You do get that there are Jewish people against killing innocents, right? Christians should be as well.

I don’t know who the ā€œweā€ is in this context ? Are you Palestinian?
 
I don’t know who the ā€œweā€ is in this context ? Are you Palestinian?
You are putting words of the ā€œleft wingā€ apparently.

If I was Palestinian?? I might not want the US supplying bombs to flatten populated cities.
 
You are putting words of the ā€œleft wingā€ apparently.

If I was Palestinian?? I might not want the US supplying bombs to flatten populated cities.

Yes. I implied there are elements on the left would regard disarming Israel or defunding the police as desirable policy.

Are you suggesting that’s not the case ?
 
Yes. I implied there are elements on the left would regard disarming Israel or defunding the police as desirable policy.
Name two on the left who are calling for the disarming of Israel in verifiable reasonably objective media. As for the other, I agree that there are those on the left who are being silly about defunding the police significantly, but this is in the face of a party and presidential candidate who tried and are still trying to launch a coup against the United States.
 
Yes. I implied there are elements on the left would regard disarming Israel or defunding the police as desirable policy.

Are you suggesting that’s not the case ?
Some elements I will give you

Rational people in the middle? End the killing! Certainly the weapons that making mass destruction possible for Israel

Finding the police to be more like England’s? Yes! Cops are not the best trained for a lot that they are asked to do. Rapes? It should be about psych help for the victims. We need the surveillance that they have,
 
Some elements I will give you

Rational people in the middle? End the killing! Certainly the weapons that making mass destruction possible for Israel

Finding the police to be more like England’s? Yes! Cops are not the best trained for a lot that they are asked to do. Rapes? It should be about psych help for the victims. We need the surveillance that they have,

I didn’t mention rational people in the middle. I specifically said I was referring to extremes, but you waded in anyway, representing some undefined ā€œweā€.

If ā€œweā€ includes people chanting ā€œfrom the river to the sea….ā€ - and thousands have, campuses especially - then it’s worse than disarming Israel, its calling for it to be eradicated.

You won’t get English policing until you have the uk model of policing by consent rather than enforcement, and that’s never gonna happen.
 
younger people driving the conversation on Project 2025 using social media to raise awareness amongst millions of voters, both pro and anti stances... awareness and discussion is key, though, to getting younger voters engaged enough to want to turn out in november.

The engagement itself is notable, if only because young people are expected to play a role in what could be a close election.

ā€œThe increase in content generated about Project 2025 and the metrics suggests young people are paying attention and doing their homework in the way they know how — on social media and using short-form video content to share their take,ā€ said Jiore Craig, a senior fellow for digital integrity with the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a nonprofit research organization.
In an era when public trust in mass media has fallen to historic lows, ā€œsocial media trends play an important role in an information ecosystem increasingly fractured and low on trust,ā€ Craig said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=b744ff16061f4b7c85fe8477029b929b&ei=37
 
'Great news!': Far-right Project 2025 overtakes Taylor Swift and NFL in Google searches

"As they should!" said @randallrex Wednesdayy. "Everyone needs to know about #Project2025 and the dangers it brings to all Americans besides white Christian Nationalists!"

"Great news!! I bring it up to people all the time," said @TrvlinJunkie. "The majority haven’t even heard of it. I’m sharing whatever videos I come across on it and posting the searchable Project 2025 document itself."
 
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