Carry On.

[stxjimmy]

This is a lie.

Trump stood at the podium and told people to protest PEACEFULLY. There was no intended violence and Trump chose to challenge the election results in court as is right and proper. On Jan 20th he vacated the WH as he was required to without needing to be forced to leave.

That's not fascism. It's proclaiming that the election was rigged and you don't trust the result. It's telling your supporters to PEACEFULLY tell the Congress to wait and investigate the claims being made about election fraud. It's using the courts rather than relying on self-help.

You know what WAS fascism? The FBI planting operatives to spur false flag violence on the part of the people just so they could claim an insurrection was happening. And you fell for it because you've been brainwashed by those very same people.

Which, once again, makes YOU the fascist because you support the use of force to get your way.

To use a military analogy this is no hill to die on. Your determination to maintain support could be seen as dogged but you are lining up on the wrong side of decency.

 

[HisArpy]

The name of the party has always been the Democratic Party. The name of the President is Joe Biden. Petulantly refusing to use either name makes you look childish.

This is incorrect. In the beginning the party name actually was "Democrat" party. The name was changed a few years later to "Democratic."

As for childish, look in the mirror to see the other participant in the "is too - is not" level of debate going on here.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^This insurrection propaganda is the reason why we don't want MAGAts to be heavily armed.

It's on tape stupid. That you refuse to acknowledge reality is why you continue to say idiotic things and get called on them.

 

[HisArpy]

except....that....didn't...happen.

The FBI did not plant false flag operatives on January 6th to spur on an insurrection. That is a lie you tell yourself because you cannot accept things for what they are. Or rather, you would have had no problem calling it an insurrection of Trump and his minions had gotten away with it, but because they are facing consequences- as they should- you cling to a lie; "Oh, they planted people to stir up trouble." No they didn't. And no, the democrats and Biden did not "Steal" the election. This has been debunked over and over again but yet you choose to believe it anyway. A lie repeated ten thousand times is still a lie- whether you can accept the truth or not.

Except the FBI ADMITTED that they had operatives in the crowd. SO MANY operatives they lost count of the number.

Ray Epps is on tape attempting to incite the crowd. Out of all those arrested, his face was the best known and was first identified, yet he only recently was arrested and charged with the most minor of offenses and is out on bail. Meanwhile the others are still sitting in jail after being refused bail.

Nancy Pelosi's granddaughter, who was present in the capital and filming her mother's offices for a documentary, has admitted ON TAPE that it was a false flag operation.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This is incorrect. In the beginning the party name actually was "Democrat" party. The name was changed a few years later to "Democratic."

As for childish, look in the mirror to see the other participant in the "is too - is not" level of debate going on here.

In the beginning, the party’s name was “The Democracy” but it hasn’t been called that since Andrew Jackson was President.

 

[coati]

It's on tape stupid. That you refuse to acknowledge reality is why you continue to say idiotic things and get called on them.

I'm not the one getting "called on" in several courts around this nation.

And the courts (not a two-bit porn board ambulance chaser) will decide what's actually on tape.

 

[HisArpy]

In the beginning, the party name was “The Democracy” but it hasn’t been called that since Andrew Jackson was President.

Thus my point is that you insisting on it being the "Democractic party" is just noise. It's a label that keeps changing but the ideology doesn't.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm not the one getting "called on" in several courts around this nation.

And the courts (not a two-bit porn board ambulance chaser) will decide what's actually on tape.

It's on tape stupid. That you're unaware of it, or refuse to recognize that face, doesn't change anything.

It's on tape.

And you're stupid.

 

[coati]

Except the FBI ADMITTED that they had operatives in the crowd. SO MANY operatives they lost count of the number.

^^^Huge news flash from Pollyanna: the FBI monitors major protest movements.

 

[Bn2f]

In the beginning, the party’s name was “The Democracy” but it hasn’t been called that since Andrew Jackson was President.

Dontcha love when paper covers rock, ovaries kick testicles?

 

[HisArpy]

^^^Huge news flash from Pollyanna: the FBI monitors major protest movements.

Kind of like they "monitored" that attempt to kidnap Michigan's governor Whitmer?

You see, no matter how much you lie to yourself, in the real world you're still stupid.

 

[Bn2f]

^^^^^^^
The rollercoaster ride.
I get dizzy.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Thus my point is that you insisting on it being the "Democractic party" is just noise. It's a label that keeps changing but the ideology doesn't.

It doesn’t “keep changing”. It’s been called exactly the same thing for almost 200 years—much longer than the Republican Party has been in existence.

 

[coati]

^^^^^^^
The rollercoaster ride.
I get dizzy.

And these paranoid conspiracy nuts are currently holding a sniper scope seminar on another Lit thread.

 

[Rightguide]

Do you not understand that a party of democrats is the democrat party?

It's NOT the party of democratics. If it was then the D's wouldn't be demoCRATs they'd be democraTICs.

I know this is difficult for you and the rest of your brain dead ilk, but words have specific meanings. Thinking that some words mean something other than what they mean doesn't change that fact.

In line with her love of bike riding her brain moves at about the same speed.

 

[Rightguide]

Fascists gained power when the existing governments refused to do necessary work. That is why there is so much fear of fascism now. The fascist label is also thrown so frequently because it's an easy label to throw, evoking cartoon images of villains in jackboots. But the US looks unlikely to move any farther towards totalitarianism. We had enough of that crap with the covid lockdowns.

Especially when so many who do throw it have no clue want a real fascist is.

 

[Rightguide]

Not at all, counselor. Calling the Democratic Party Democrat is a pejorative term, a slur at this point.

I have to agree the term "Democrat" is a pejorative term especially in the state I live in, but to have you admit it brings a smile.

Your comment here clearly lacks perspective and context. your hero spent months dog whistling, signaling and whipping his alt right wing nuts into a frenzy and then unleashed them when he ”stood at the podium and told them to protest PEACEFULLY (wink wink).” Zip ties, gallows, pepper spray, hang Pence, tactical gear, people injured and dead…any of that ring a bell or will you chalk it up to a few bad apples

When did Trump wink at the crowd? Like a lot of other comments you made that up.

lol, peacefully telling supporters to peacefully tell congress to wait by breaking in the capitol building and running amuck while legislators run in fear for their lives

You made that up as well, Trump didn't tell anyone to break into the Capitol, Ray Epps did though.

Trump did far more than simply challenge the election results in court and you of all people should understand that.

Like what in particular? Did he do more or less that Al Gore did in 2000? If so how?

Got any at all credible evidence? Emphasis on credible.

The verbatim transcript of Trump's speech is credible evidence he did not incite an insurrection.

Have you heard trump’s stump talk on what he plans to do if he gets elected?

Yes, he plans to go after those who broke the law trying to subvert his presidency, as he should.

 

[HisArpy]

It doesn’t “keep changing”. It’s been called exactly the same thing for almost 200 years—much longer than the Republican Party has been in existence.

When the party was created in 1844 it wasn't the "democratic" party. The name was changed later. (You can google it but the info keeps changing on almost a weekly basis. Almost like someone is trying to rewrite history.)

You say that this is "much longer" than the Republican party has been around yet the R's created their party in 1854, only a decarde later. Which isn't "much longer" as you claim. So, you're engaging in a bit of revisionist history yourself.

Then there's this:

Slate article on "Democrat" vis a vis "Democratic" and who said what and when

I find it interesting that even a few Democrats used the term back in the early days yet you take umbrage at it. Perhaps it's because you don't like being misnamed as much as "deplorables" don't like being misnamed as such? If so, then D's only themselves to blame.

 

[jomar]

I have to agree the term "Democrat" is a pejorative term especially in the state I live in, but to have you admit it brings a smile.

No surprise there

When did Trump wink at the crowd? Like a lot of other comments you made that up.

You’re serious aren’t you. Well no, he didn’t literally wink. Him saying “peacefully” was the wink after spending months winding up his proud boys and oath keeper types. And IIRC he said peacefully march to the capitol building, which is a whole different thing than what happens after they get there.

You made that up as well, Trump didn't tell anyone to break into the Capitol, Ray Epps did though.

See above

Like what in particular? Did he do more or less that Al Gore did in 2000? If so how?

Well, I don’t recall Gore calling a Secretary of State and twisting his arm like a godfather to find votes. And I don’t recall Gore having a posse of lawyers spouting crazy shit that they couldn’t even get in court because it was so ludicrous.

The verbatim transcript of Trump's speech is credible evidence he did not incite an insurrection.

Again, you have to look at the larger picture of events, not just a small piece. You got any thoughts on why it took trump so long to tell the mob to leave the capitol building and go home?

Yes, he plans to go after those who broke the law trying to subvert his presidency, as he should.

Who and what laws were broken. Your guy also wants to use the military against civilian citizens.

 

[Rightguide]

When the party was created in 1844 it wasn't the "democratic" party. The name was changed later. (You can google it but the info keeps changing on almost a weekly basis. Almost like someone is trying to rewrite history.)

You say that this is "much longer" than the Republican party has been around yet the R's created their party in 1854, only a decarde later. Which isn't "much longer" as you claim. So, you're engaging in a bit of revisionist history yourself.

Then there's this:

Slate article on "Democrat" vis a vis "Democratic" and who said what and when

I find it interesting that even a few Democrats used the term back in the early days yet you take umbrage at it. Perhaps it's because you don't like being misnamed as much as "deplorables" don't like being misnamed as such? If so, then D's only themselves to blame.

They insist on "democratic" to mask the totalitarianism the party really represents.

 

[ll74]

They insist on "democratic" to mask the totalitarianism the party really represents.

It's actually the name of the party.

You're actually the one insisting on not addressing it properly, admittedly as a middle finger.

 

[jaF0]

Are we still braiding each other's back hair over party names?

 

[Rightguide]

You’re serious aren’t you. Well no, he didn’t literally wink. Him saying “peacefully” was the wink after spending months winding up his proud boys and oath keeper types. And IIRC he said peacefully march to the capitol building, which is a whole different thing than what happens after they get there.

You added the wink to fortify your unprovable belief, not to express the actual truth.

Well, I don’t recall Gore calling a Secretary of State and twisting his arm like a godfather to find votes. And I don’t recall Gore having a posse of lawyers spouting crazy shit that they couldn’t even get in court because it was so ludicrous.

That's your problem you don't recall what happened. That election went all the way to the SCOTUS.

Again, you have to look at the larger picture of events, not just a small piece. You got any thoughts on why it took trump so long to tell the mob to leave the capitol building and go home?

The larger picture of events was just released by the new Speaker of the House, all 44,000 hours of it on video. The hours the J6 Committee insisted on hiding from you. It's you the democrats wanted to force to seeing only what they wanted you to see and here. You have any thoughts on why Pelosi and Bowser delayed the deployment of the National Guard authorized by Trump?

Who and what laws were broken. Your guy also wants to use the military against civilian citizens.

The Insurrection Act allows the use of federal troops to quell riots and insurrections, The law acts as an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The Act states:

"Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

The law has been used dozens of time since its inception. Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, George H.W. Bush all invoked the Act, Bush was the last to use it when he sent 4500 Marines into Los Angeles to suppress the Rodney King riots. Incidentally in 1967 LBJ sent 2,000 army paratroopers were sent to Detroit with tanks and armored cars, killing forty-three people and arresting 7,000 people.

 

[Rightguide]

It's actually the name of the party.

You're actually the one insisting on not addressing it properly, admittedly as a middle finger.

No different than any number of monikers some have tagged Republicans with.

 

[ll74]

No different than any number of monikers some have tagged Republicans with.

They've tagged 45's supporters with.a monicker. That's irrelevant to you trying to justify the same bullshit as if it's different or better. You literally admitted to it being incorrect on purpose.