Disappointed……That was Jive

[BeaMine]

i have no idea if you did or did not get express permission to use a certain poster's picture... but that person has left the site. I don't need to substantiate anything to you, since all i am doing is deducting 'from the information in these few threads' and i trust neci's judgement judgement without question after 14 years of watching her post and moderate at times.

I don’t know who neci is but I don’t appreciate random allegations.

 

[butters]

Since you're quoting me on that last one, I only do use words for AI. Yes I downloaded a personal photograph that I created, and no I didn't use it. That doesn't mean in the future I won't try to alter something that I've created via photograph and alter it. For now it's only been words to create the AI images. RT

how do you think the AI gathers images to use?

 

[butters]

I don’t know who neci is but I don’t appreciate random allegations.

look, i'm simply trying to give you some insight into the workings of this site, which offers you the ability to put your words and art out there for more eyes than it would get if you didn't. It's a free site and you can ask for change but not demand it. In the past, the site owners have even put things out there for our feedback regarding changes but, ultimately, the decisions are all theirs and there are a million other sites out there.

it IS frustrating when you feel you don't get appropriate feedback. but quite what you expect mods or members to do beyond what we already have is a mystery.

i do have one suggestion, though: whether it's here or any other site, do a little reading first and see who the mods are, who to contact if issues arise, take a good read of the rules both for the site as a whole and the differences between individual forums and, perhaps most importantly, know who the site owners are!

 

[RoperTrace]

how do you think the AI gathers images to use?

Please explain it to me, how do you think it works? AI artists are already selling their 'art' for huge sums of money, and lesser amounts depending on the quality and subject matter. AI for art is already in the public domain, and will only expand exponentially from here-on.

Serious question, do you see or think some government agency will outlaw the use of AI for artistic creations? By that I mean painting, digital art, music, sculpture, fashion design, architectural design, plastic surgery, etc, etc?
(edit): I can't believe I forgot the written or spoken word. I have played a little with an AI writing a short story, it was hilariously off-course, but still an interesting start.

 

[Prudence_Art]

anywhere you see posts breaking the forum rules report them

a lot of people complain about seeing stuff that breaks the rules but never report them to bring it to the notice of mods, who often have jobs in the meat world or other responsibilities. They don't get paid and are here only as much as they choose to be. They are people and, like in all walks of life, some will be more diligent than others... but nothing will ever get done about posts that don't get reported unless a mod happens to see them themselves.

being technically shite or amateurish have never been reasons people cannot post stuff. that goes across the boards, from poetry to politics.

just to clarify i am not saying amateurish art works should be removed, i believe in art as free expression....self proclaimed artists stand or fall on their reception from the viewer....the a.i thread thats been removed had a. lot of high quality material and creators were quite open about how they wrote and refine their prompts, writing prompts is a lot like writing fiction and lots of time and effort goes into the finished piece.., for better or worse a.i art is getting popular and even noted fine artists from the mainstream ore experimenting with it....

 

[butters]

just to clarify i am not saying amateurish art works should be removed, i believe in art as free expression....self proclaimed artists stand or fall on their reception from the viewer....the a.i thread thats been removed had a. lot of high quality material and creators were quite open about how they wrote and refine their prompts, writing prompts is a lot like writing fiction and lots of time and effort goes into the finished piece.., for better or worse a.i art is getting popular and even noted fine artists from the mainstream ore experimenting with it....

i understand the art of refining; that select manipulation of words in order to create images is not unlike writing poetry, except with poets the images will be created in the minds rather than in a 2-D visual format. The more skillful, the better the results for either. AI art is a whole new ballgame which, i have no doubt, can produce some amazing pieces.

Having said that, artists not working in that medium and sites/members concerned with the equivalent of plagiarism might have valid concerns. I just looked at your thread on the art side of things and would like some clarification about your post 17 which you explain is rendered from someone else's creation, as a piece of 'found' art that you then managed to convert into something more aesthetic. It's a very muddied, fluid issue right now.

of course there will be uncredited artwork/images floating around the web; the ethics of using them is muddied but might be something litigated on in the future along the lines of 'already in the public forum' and creators whose names cannot be traced.

 

[AncientAviator]

Inmates are running the asylum

 

[butters]

just as an additional point, in poetry there's a genre: found poetry

it's basically snippets, a line or a few words, that were created by someone else and then cobbled (or artfully stitched together) to produce a poem way above and beyond those few individual words from each source. But it's vital to credit every source and acknowledge them. There's an acceptable limit to what kind of word 'recycling' is allowed from each individual piece... otherwise it steps into the realms of plagiarism, quite rightly.

 

[butters]

Inmates are running the asylum

yet you choose to remain and insult the site owners. smooth moves, alt

 

[AncientAviator]

yet you choose to remain and insult the site owners. smooth moves, alt

KMA

 

[BeaMine]

So, we have an action but no guideline. We can infer some things but…..

 

[BeaMine]

People can grab images all day long and post them here with watermarks and websites plainly visible but people are worried that AI will sample similar images when creating its own……

 

[Prudence_Art]

@butters ...that piece started life as a very ugly low definition image that made the subject look ridiculous and at the time i was trying to change ugly images into something more vivid, positive and empowering, the original was manipulated in photoshop, to hopefully produce a thing of beauty. i think some would say this is piracy but i have no problem with stealing off exploiters of vulnerable women.

 

[AncientAviator]

yet you choose to remain and insult the site owners. smooth moves, alt

I'm going to stick around just to piss you off you hypocritical clown. You spend a lot of time here. Your life must suck.

 

[Sparky74]

Genuinely can't believe what a total overreaction there has been to AI imagery.

It really is laughable.

 

[butters]

@butters ...that piece started life as a very ugly low definition image that made the subject look ridiculous and at the time i was trying to change ugly images into something more vivid, positive and empowering, the original was manipulated in photoshop, to hopefully produce a thing of beauty. i think some would say this is piracy but i have no problem with stealing off exploiters of vulnerable women.

so you know the source? are you sure the person in the image wasn't taking a really bad selfie or posting it themselves as art? grey areas.

while i agree with your despising of such exploiters, the laws on theft are the laws on theft though i doubt you'd have to deal with it over the use of that particular image.
some might use a similar excuse to take fully-copyrighted images of (off the top of my head) mentally unwell celebrities photographed in inauspicious circumstances by "journalists" and alter them without permission to use them in the first place... plus a whole other host of potential scenarios. Things skating past now might not in five years time; in 10 they might be entirely no-go areas or pass muster depending entirely on common use and court cases.

 

[AncientAviator]

so you know the source? are you sure the person in the image wasn't taking a really bad selfie or posting it themselves as art? grey areas.

while i agree with your despising of such exploiters, the laws on theft are the laws on theft though i doubt you'd have to deal with it over the use of that particular image.
some might use a similar excuse to take fully-copyrighted images of (off the top of my head) mentally unwell celebrities photographed in inauspicious circumstances by "journalists" and alter them without permission to use them in the first place... plus a whole other host of potential scenarios. Things skating past now might not in five years time; in 10 they might be entirely no-go areas or pass muster depending entirely on common use and court cases.

^ mentally unwell

 

[Prudence_Art]

so you know the source? are you sure the person in the image wasn't taking a really bad selfie or posting it themselves as art? grey areas.

pretty certain it wasnt either of those

while i agree with your despising of such exploiters, the laws on theft are the laws on theft though i doubt you'd have to deal with it over the use of that particular image.
some might use a similar excuse to take fully-copyrighted images of (off the top of my head) mentally unwell celebrities photographed in inauspicious circumstances by "journalists" and alter them without permission to use them in the first place... plus a whole other host of potential scenarios. Things skating past now might not in five years time; in 10 they might be entirely no-go areas or pass muster depending entirely on common use and court cases.

someone might do that, not me though.

 

[BeaMine]

I’m hungry

 

[Sparky74]

What do you fancy?

 

[BeaMine]

 

[BeaMine]

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/ai-porn.1587369/post-96902905

 

[Sparky74]

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/ai-porn.1587369/post-96902905

Lovely

 

[BeaMine]

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/curiouschattycouple-ai-pics-thread.1588471/

 

[BeaMine]

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/you-ai.1591137/