Disney has quit playing

[ll74]

If Disney doesn't win, there's something seriously wrong with the court system.

It's clear as fucking day that DeSantis has used his government as a personal hammer.

 

[Dribble]

If they don't then they get something even worse.

It's not rocket science. Vote for democrats and deal with not the best or don't vote and get the republicans who really really suck.

If they can't figure this out then they actually deserve the hardships their self disenfranchisement gets them.

Which is insanely fucking stupid.

Nah....only speeds the inevitable forward. You want them to vote...give them a reason to vote. Fear of your boogeyman isn't good enough

 

[Sean Renaud]

Nah....only speeds the inevitable forward. You want them to vote...give them a reason to vote. Fear of your boogeyman isn't good enough

its not a boogey man. Also Biden has not failed on every promise. That's right wing propaganda. I'll be the first to admit there are things he really fucked up on. He's made no effort that I can see to have increased the minimum wage.

 

[Lazaran]

Nah....only speeds the inevitable forward. You want them to vote...give them a reason to vote. Fear of your boogeyman isn't good enough

You are wrong.

Full stop.

Perfect is the enemy of good,

If the 2016 election didn’t inform your decision making, then there’s probably not much anyone can say to convince you otherwise.

Bernie Bro’s Hillary hate very likely gave the US and the world the corrupt orange traitor as POTUS.

That ^ was bad.

SAD!!’

 

[Dribble]

its not a boogey man. Also Biden has not failed on every promise. That's right wing propaganda. I'll be the first to admit there are things he really fucked up on. He's made no effort that I can see to have increased the minimum wage.

Whose watch was it when we lost Roe? What has he done since?

What has he done to fight climate change?

He ran in the promise of being able to work across Party lines. He is about to cave on EVERY success he has had to raise the debt limit. This is reality.

Sorry....I don't vote for failures just to avoid other failures. I vote for a Party with plan. Proactive nor reactive. And guess what....so do most sane people

 

[Dribble]

You are wrong.

Full stop.

Perfect is the enemy of good,

If the 2016 election didn’t inform your decision making, then there’s probably not much anyone can say to convince you otherwise.

Bernie Bro’s Hillary hate very likely gave the US and the world the corrupt orange traitor as POTUS.

That ^ was bad.

SAD!!’

No....what gave us Trump was a Party giving us such a shitty choice that Trump was elected. Time to stop blaming others for our failures.

 

[Dribble]

Those that keep blaming Sanders for Hillary's failure need to actually look at what the demographic data says. That is not saying there wasn't a proportion that supported Sanders that didn't vote. But THEY CAME LARGELY from States that still voted for Hillary. They had no impact on the Presidential Election. This is what the data has shown. Hate and anger won.

 

[Lazaran]

No....what gave us Trump was a Party giving us such a shitty choice that Trump was elected. Time to stop blaming others for our failures.

“The Party” didn’t give us a “shitty choice”. Hillary was as competent and qualified (more so imho) as any of her predecessors. You believed what someone told you (or what you WANTED to believe for “SOME” reason) about Hillary.

I’m guessing you didn’t vote for Hillary in 2016???

I know for a fact many Bernie Bros didn’t.

Easily enough to have swung the election imho.

I’m sure people like you are currently lapping up the “President Biden is too old and he didn’t get us EVERYTHING we wanted” narrative, which means 2024 could potentially be another example of PERFECT BEING THE ENEMY OF GOOD.

SAD!!!

 

[adrina]

It's ironic for someone to say to quit blaming others for the failures when the consumers fail to act on their own behalf.

 

[zipman]

You are wrong.

Full stop.

Perfect is the enemy of good,

If the 2016 election didn’t inform your decision making, then there’s probably not much anyone can say to convince you otherwise.

Bernie Bro’s Hillary hate very likely gave the US and the world the corrupt orange traitor as POTUS.

That ^ was bad.

SAD!!’

Hillary lost that election all on her own. Between the Deplorables comment, the email servers and her condescending attitude she blew it.

 

[adrina]

Hillary lost that election all on her own. Between the Deplorables comment, the email servers and her condescending attitude she blew it.

Not buyin' it. Trump hated on half the country all through the election and into the entirety of his presidency.

The reality is that HRC was held to standards no man in that position has ever or will ever be.

 

[zipman]

Not buyin' it. Trump hated on half the country all through the election and into the entirety of his presidency.

The reality is that HRC was held to standards no man in that position has ever or will ever be.

Hillary always struggled with the likeability factor. Like it or not it's a part of politics.

Sorry, I don't buy the "it's because she was a woman" excuse.

 

[adrina]

Hillary always struggled with the likeability factor. Like it or not it's a part of politics.

Sorry, I don't buy the "it's because she was a woman" excuse.

Actually no she didn't. But that is a common reality for women in politics - likability. And that is very much so a sexist issue. It only came into play when she dared get too big for her britches. ie the healthcare policy with Clinton's presidency and then running for president herself.

She had a very high approval rating as secretary of state. It's interesting that you somehow forgot that.

 

[Lazaran]

Hillary lost that election all on her own. Between the Deplorables comment, the email servers and her condescending attitude she blew it.

You’re fucking kidding, right???

The e-mail server was nothing. See: Colin Powell and his e-mail “workaround” as well as his advice to Hillary.

Hillary was spot on about there being two baskets of “republicans”, but she was wrong when she suggested that the basket of Deplorables was the smaller basket.

The fact that you cite “her condescending attitude” is quite revealing.

The double standard for Hillary was obvious.

“CERTAIN” people ignore that ^ for “SOME” reason.

SAD!!!

 

[jomar]

Whose watch? You can arguably blame McConnell for Roe, not Biden. Though RBG had a hand by not retiring in a timely fashion.

 

[DeluxAuto]

She had a very high approval rating as secretary of state. It's interesting that you somehow forgot that.

I liked her as a SoS but never as a President.

 

[Lazaran]

I liked her as a SoS but never as a President.

But every other deeply flawed male you ever voted for was acceptable/ palatable???

Hmmmm…..

 

[zipman]

Actually no she didn't. But that is a common reality for women in politics - likability. And that is very much so a sexist issue. It only came into play when she dared get too big for her britches. ie the healthcare policy with Clinton's presidency and then running for president herself.

She had a very high approval rating as secretary of state. It's interesting that you somehow forgot that.

Ididn't forget it at all. She was offputting to a lot of people. There were a lot of factors that played into her loss. The fact that Comey announced there were more emails in October, the fact that she didn't go back and campaign more in Wisconsin, the deplorables comment which did more for Trump than anything he said or did. But If you want to believe that she lost solely because she's a woman, that's fine.

 

[DeluxAuto]

But every other deeply flawed male you ever voted for was acceptable/ palatable???

Hmmmm…..

What?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Ididn't forget it at all. She was offputting to a lot of people. There were a lot of factors that played into her loss. The fact that Comey announced there were more emails in October, the fact that she didn't go back and campaign more in Wisconsin, the deplorables comment which did more for Trump than anything he said or did. But If you want to believe that she lost solely because she's a woman, that's fine.

The late night wine sipping undoubtedly played a role as well. She was often irritable, aloof, and appeared tired in public appearances. Even passed out a couple times. Definitely didn’t have her husband’s energy and people skills.

 

[adrina]

Ididn't forget it at all. She was offputting to a lot of people. There were a lot of factors that played into her loss. The fact that Comey announced there were more emails in October, the fact that she didn't go back and campaign more in Wisconsin, the deplorables comment which did more for Trump than anything he said or did. But If you want to believe that she lost solely because she's a woman, that's fine.

If you want to say that her being a woman did not factor into her loss then you are being intellectually dishonest. Is it the only reason she lost? Likely not. Did it play an outsized role? Yes it did.

Offputting. Indeed. Because Trump was a lovable teddy bear of venom. You are judging her negatively and saying she lost because of those negative judgements while not acknowledging the worse behavior of the man who won.

Yeah. Okey dokey.

 

[adrina]

I liked her as a SoS but never as a President.

Well we got Trump. Better?

 

[DeluxAuto]

Well we got Trump. Better?

Histrionics.

I voted for her. Y'all need to quit manufacturing arguments where there isn't one.

 

[adrina]

Histrionics.

I voted for her. Y'all need to quit manufacturing arguments where there isn't one.

Give it a rest then. The reality is that there are a lot of folks that couldn't make that simple practical decision you did because of ... reasons.

And because of that we as a country got Trump.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

She’s a two-time loser. Obama spotlighted her people problem back in the 2008 primary debates when he smugly remarked "You're nice enough, Hillary.”