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Better pay, of course. At least I think it's mostly about the pay. There are only a few fields of work where there is no collective agreement between workers' and employers' unions.
As opposed to here in the States, where unionization laws aren't even enforced, really. :(
 
As opposed to here in the States, where unionization laws aren't even enforced, really. :(
Here there are even 3-way negotiations at times, the state being the 3rd party. We don't even have legal minimum wage - it's set by the collective agreements. (Though there is a ban on too low wages, but it's vague unlike the agreements.) And many conditions are set higher in the collective agreements than in the law. Like breaks and holidays.

Being a union member is a protected right here, and when there is an applicable agreement, the union has the right to set a trusted man. Who cannot easily be fired, btw... And if not, the workers are still entitled to set a trustee to speak for them.
 
No, but we don't want to be anywhere near you if you are driving in it for the only time in your life. snow amateurs = not good
Its not us, its the cars.
We had no issues driving in the snow for the first time because we drove a truck with 4 wheel drive and snow tires. Our normal cars are 2 wheel drive with the cheapest tires cause 99% of the time that's all you need here.
 
Its not us, its the cars.
We had no issues driving in the snow for the first time because we drove a truck with 4 wheel drive and snow tires. Our normal cars are 2 wheel drive with the cheapest tires cause 99% of the time that's all you need here.
I've driven in snow with 2-wheel drive (very few have 4-wheel drive around here) and summer tires (yeah, my late husband was uncharacteristically late changing the tires that fall, got caught by the first snow falling while I was working).

Don't blame the cars. It's really about the drivers. A good, experienced driver can even take into account the bad tires.
 
I've driven in snow with 2-wheel drive (very few have 4-wheel drive around here) and summer tires (yeah, my late husband was uncharacteristically late changing the tires that fall, got caught by the first snow falling while I was working).

Don't blame the cars. It's really about the drivers. A good, experienced driver can even take into account the bad tires.
When I was teaching my daughter to drive one of the most important lessons was Learn your car.
 
When I was teaching my daughter to drive one of the most important lessons was Learn your car.
Another - anticipate.

I was also taught to TEST (in winter) your brakes and how slippery it is, if the conditions have changed. And you should never drive south fast that you can't stop within the part of the road you can see. No matter the weather and road conditions - there are no exceptions to that rule.

I hate cars where you can't feel "in your ass" what the car is doing. Is it firmly on the road, just on the verge of sliding, whatever. I demand a sensitive car in that sense. In practise it means not too stiff.
 
Only a few exceptions... One is a road so icy, that in an open place the wind can push the car sideways (even one that standing still). Then it's about the tires and the weight of the car, if the wind can push the car out of the road or not.

Doesn't happen every winter.
 
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