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Bougie guys can be totally ewww. like others have said - just show me you can dress yourself. That you take some pride in your appearance. This shines through even when in serious work clothes at the end of a hard working day.
the way the guys wear suits to do pharmaceutical visits to my office - very few of those can catch my eye. bad suits. suits that are all about projecting an image that is not who they are. As a counterpoint - there was one man who used to do drug detail at my office - he was SO sharply dressed. Took so much pride in his presentation and it was noticed by all, appreciated by most.
I 100% agree with this its the pride in dressing if you are going to wear a suit wear the best quality one you can afford and keep it neat and tidy ffs. Even if you travel a lot, most hotels offer a dry cleaning service. No reason for arm pit spuds eww
 
Bougie guys can be totally ewww. like others have said - just show me you can dress yourself. That you take some pride in your appearance. This shines through even when in serious work clothes at the end of a hard working day.
the way the guys wear suits to do pharmaceutical visits to my office - very few of those can catch my eye. bad suits. suits that are all about projecting an image that is not who they are. As a counterpoint - there was one man who used to do drug detail at my office - he was SO sharply dressed. Took so much pride in his presentation and it was noticed by all, appreciated by most.
So it's not a turn off if that guy cares more about his appearance than you care about yours? Like my bm is super simple in her day to day attire and hardly ever wears make up. Says if it took me longer to get ready than her, she would find it weird and finds it unattractive. She likes it when I dress nice, buy a simple polo, jeans and brushed hair and shaved is all I need to do to impress her.
 
So it's not a turn off if that guy cares more about his appearance than you care about yours? Like my bm is super simple in her day to day attire and hardly ever wears make up. Says if it took me longer to get ready than her, she would find it weird and finds it unattractive. She likes it when I dress nice, buy a simple polo, jeans and brushed hair and shaved is all I need to do to impress her.
It should not take a guy longer to get ready than I do on average imo. It would prolly be pretty weird if the guy owns more personal care product than I do too.
 
So it's not a turn off if that guy cares more about his appearance than you care about yours? Like my bm is super simple in her day to day attire and hardly ever wears make up. Says if it took me longer to get ready than her, she would find it weird and finds it unattractive. She likes it when I dress nice, buy a simple polo, jeans and brushed hair and shaved is all I need to do to impress her.
It's a turn off if a guy visibly fusses about his appearance more than I do about mine. And I am not a fusser. Unless it's a dressing-up occasion.

But just that he looks nice, well-groomed, etc.? Not at all. My favorite guy...I know that he spends almost no time on his appearance. But he always looks neat, well-groomed, like he takes care of himself.

(And that's a hard no on tucking in the polo shirt.)
 
Along the lines of clothes. Do you guys find half naked more sexy than naked? I know I do for both men and women
I can find a fully clothed woman to be very sexy, just as sexy as partially to fully nude. Sometimes mystery can add to the appeal
 
Ladies, a guy comes to pick you up. And you say give me few seconds I gotta touch up and you go to use the bathroom mirror. The guy follows you and starts using hair spray.
What do you do?
I'd laugh and tell him to gtfo of my house cause I don't even own hairspray and if he carries it around with himself he's a flesh version of Johnny Bravo 🤣
 
I would say no, unless the polo is very slim fitting and a belt. Not a rodeo belt buckle though. that would be hilarious
You just described the country teen boys of Oklahoma. When they're told to dress nice, they take off a scuffed t-shirt and tucks in a polo. Then picks their favorite belt buckle. I find the look hilarious too. But I was raised in the nu-metal scene.
 
It's a turn off if a guy visibly fusses about his appearance more than I do about mine. And I am not a fusser. Unless it's a dressing-up occasion.

But just that he looks nice, well-groomed, etc.? Not at all. My favorite guy...I know that he spends almost no time on his appearance. But he always looks neat, well-groomed, like he takes care of himself.

(And that's a hard no on tucking in the polo shirt.)
this actully doesn't bother me if they are doing it for fun and not taking themselves too seriously.
I don't spend a lot of time anyway. I tend to prefer very simple natural things.
 
Ladies, a guy comes to pick you up. And you say give me few seconds I gotta touch up and you go to use the bathroom mirror. The guy follows you and pulls out his hair spray and starts using it on his hair.
What do you do?

Cough.

And then try to figure out why this guy is here because this is not someone who would want to go out with me or vice versa.

But I also don't know too many guys who use hair spray. A little styling product maybe.
 
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