What’s your most controversial opinion?

[Lord Pmann]

Self confessed rapey teacher

Oh yes! That was quite some time ago. Weirdo.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Oh yes! That was quite some time ago. Weirdo.

Yeah...
Lit...

 

[alwaysaway]

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I don’t suggest everyone find it funny. Not at all. Some will. But, just like sexual kinks, people may have preference with humour. Your opinion doesn’t reign supreme on what is or is not acceptable. Nor does mine. Assuming I have no decency for people because you disagree with the kind of humour I enjoy is quite petulant.

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Maybe the key is to start the sentence with “humour is my kink” and then people won’t get their knickers in a knot. If it’s a kink, people are accepting. If it’s a joke, they are not. Makes sense

 

[aussiegeekygal]

What's the bet WOB is lurking, naked with a glass of red wine and bowl of popcorn just LOVING how this fine piece of performance art is playing out...?

 

[Lord Pmann]

This would be a fun group to play Cards Against Humanity with!

It would be reduced to a game of Apples to Apples, pilgrim edition.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

It would be reduced to a game of Apples to Apples, pilgrim edition.

My husband's family owns that one

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Did the ck video get removed?
I was about to go back and watch it to see what all the fuss was about...

 

[Trekka]

Maybe the key is to start the sentence with “humour is my kink” and then people won’t get their knickers in a knot. If it’s a kink, people are accepting. If it’s a joke, they are not. Makes sense

try and talk about pee tho and it gets so judgy so fast...! Daddies also. that's often a non-starter. what else. don't even get me started on that whole 1950s housewife kink scene!

What's the bet WOB is lurking, naked with a glass of red wine and bowl of popcorn just LOVING how this fine piece of performance art is playing out...?

this made açaí berries come right out my nose.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

try and talk about pee tho and it gets so judgy so fast...! Daddies also. that's often a non-starter. what else. don't even get me started on that whole 1950s housewife kink scene!



this made açaí berries come right out my nose.

As someone into CNC, today has been a trip

 

[Mrtenant]

I never condoned his behaviour. Louis CK, while not guilty or accused of the sexual assault term people so easily throw around, is guilty of the sexual harassment and misconduct. Admittedly. Sexual assault has an actual meaning, yet people like to make that term synonymous with inappropriate action. He never has been accused of sexual assault, to my knowledge. Nevertheless, his actions are problematic.

Maybe you don’t find the humour enjoyable. That’s okay. I posted a warning to it, so no one would be triggered. But the joke is obviously funny to some.

However, this forum is more than welcoming of rape fantasies, humiliation, domination, abuse or daddy/daughter stuff. Yet, a joke about it is over the top.

This. Right here.

To my mind

......welcoming of rape fantasies, humiliation, domination, abuse or daddy/daughter stuff ....is consensual roleplay stuff. Some can or want to do it, some don't. It is a consenting thing. You must know this P, I know you are no dummy.

Yet, a joke about it is over the top......this is making fun of, making light of someone's fucked up predicament beyond their control. Whether directed at them personally or just in general, there is no separation. It is a deep pain that is instantly revisited due to the thoughtless and casual expression of a joke at someone's or anyone's (*waves generally around the room) expense.

You can say it's funny if you want to, or not. I get it- context and audience. For my money, that's a shitty comedy show. I want my money back and there will be an equally shitty review to follow. If it's someone I know. I won't stand for it. be a good friend and not do rape jokes around me, or fucking go away.

If you have never been raped, you just don't get it. You don't. You can't.


It's not equitable. At all.

I don’t suggest everyone find it funny. Not at all. Some will. But, just like sexual kinks, people may have preference with humour. Your opinion doesn’t reign supreme on what is or is not acceptable. Nor does mine. Assuming I have no decency for people because you disagree with the kind of humour I enjoy is quite petulant.



There was a video I posted that was the root of it all.

You’ll have to remind me of Grace. I remember the name…

 

[saustin5432]

I never condoned his behaviour. Louis CK, while not guilty or accused of the sexual assault term people so easily throw around, is guilty of the sexual harassment and misconduct. Admittedly. Sexual assault has an actual meaning, yet people like to make that term synonymous with inappropriate action. He never has been accused of sexual assault, to my knowledge. Nevertheless, his actions are problematic.

Maybe you don’t find the humour enjoyable. That’s okay. I posted a warning to it, so no one would be triggered. But the joke is obviously funny to some.

However, this forum is more than welcoming of rape fantasies, humiliation, domination, abuse or daddy/daughter stuff. Yet, a joke about it is over the top.

I don’t suggest everyone find it funny. Not at all. Some will. But, just like sexual kinks, people may have preference with humour. Your opinion doesn’t reign supreme on what is or is not acceptable. Nor does mine. Assuming I have no decency for people because you disagree with the kind of humour I enjoy is quite petulant.

Let's take Louis CK out of it. He doesn't really matter as it could have been anyone saying what he said.

So as long as I think whatever comes out of my mouth should be funny to someone, it's just OK to say anything? Is that where we are as humanity? Are lynching jokes OK? What about child abuse? Are child abuse jokes OK? What about bullying? Is it OK make fun of someone as long as what you're saying is funny to you? How about mental abuse? Is it OK to mentally abuse someone as long as you say you were just joking every night before you go to bed?

The video was punching down. It gives power to accepting rape as an acceptable behavior and reminds the victims out there, even the ones in the audience, that rape is funny as long as it's a joke. It had nothing to do with kinks and fantasies you mention. Those are all acts between consenting adults. The "joke" was not about rape fantasy, it was about rape being ok, as long as the situation calls for it.

 

[Lord Pmann]

This. Right here.

To my mind

......welcoming of rape fantasies, humiliation, domination, abuse or daddy/daughter stuff ....is consensual roleplay stuff. Some can or want to do it, some don't. It is a consenting thing. You must know this P, I know you are no dummy.

Yet, a joke about it is over the top......this is making fun of, making light of someone's fucked up predicament beyond their control. Whether directed at them personally or just in general, there is no separation. It is a deep pain that is instantly revisited due to the thoughtless and casual expression of a joke at someone's or anyone's (*waves generally around the room) expense.

You can say it's funny if you want to, or not. I get it- context and audience. For my money, that's a shitty comedy show. I want my money back and there will be an equally shitty review to follow. If it's someone I know. I won't stand for it. be a good friend and not do rape jokes around me, or fucking go away.

If you have never been raped, you just don't get it. You don't. You can't.


It's not equitable. At all.

First, don’t assume anything about what I get or can’t get. It’s a really giant assumption on your part.

Secondly, I want you to think of what you’re saying. It’s okay for your dick to get happy from the thought of rape, but not your brain?

Of course I know it’s consent. But so is a joke. You must realize the hypocrisy of saying engaging in rape play (which by definition, minimizes it’s severity) is okay but when a joke is not.

What you are really saying is, “This is my belief and others should conform because one makes me feel uncomfortable.” What about those uncomfortable with rape play?

 

[aussiegeekygal]

The video was punching down. It gives power to accepting rape as an acceptable behavior and reminds the victims out there, even the ones in the audience, that rape is funny as long as it's a joke.

Without having seen it yet, I agree with this.

We should be punching up, not kicking down.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Let's take Louis CK out of it. He doesn't really matter as it could have been anyone saying what he said.

So as long as I think whatever comes out of my mouth should be funny to someone, it's just OK to say anything? Is that where we are as humanity? Are lynching jokes OK? What about child abuse? Are child abuse jokes OK? What about bullying? Is it OK make fun of someone as long as what you're saying is funny to you? How about mental abuse? Is it OK to mentally abuse someone as long as you say you were just joking every night before you go to bed?

The video was punching down. It gives power to accepting rape as an acceptable behavior and reminds the victims out there, even the ones in the audience, that rape is funny as long as it's a joke. It had nothing to do with kinks and fantasies you mention. Those are all acts between consenting adults. The "joke" was not about rape fantasy, it was about rape being ok, as long as the situation calls for it.

Jokes are made of hyperbole and extremes. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand many jokes. Going to a comedy show is an act between consenting adults.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Did the ck video get removed?
I was about to go back and watch it to see what all the fuss was about...

@ToPleaseHim - any reason this was removed other than people bitching and perhaps personal dislike for it? I see no forum rules broken.

It also removes any context.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Without having seen it yet, I agree with this.

We should be punching up, not kicking down.

The first part of the video was about raping Hitler.

 

[Mrtenant]

First, don’t assume anything about what I get or can’t get. It’s a really giant assumption on your part.

Secondly, I want you to think of what you’re saying. It’s okay for your dick to get happy from the thought of rape, but not your brain?

Of course I know it’s consent. But so is a joke. You must realize the hypocrisy of saying engaging in rape play (which by definition, minimizes it’s severity) is okay but when a joke is not.

What you are really saying is, “This is my belief and others should conform because one makes me feel uncomfortable.” What about those uncomfortable with rape play?

Assumptions about what is equitable or not is what started this dialogue. You make assumptions that your pov is correct or should be for everyone. Clearly it is not. With a rape joke, unless you know that the person makes rape jokes, it is suddenly put in front of you. There is no stated mutually acceptable range of jokes.

That's like going into a room of Holocaust survivors and telling Jewish genocide jokes. See how well they take it.

Those uncomfortable with rapeplay, don't do it, stay away from it. Tell their kinky partner it is not happening.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Assumptions about what is equitable or not is what started this dialogue. You make assumptions that your pov is correct or should be for everyone. Clearly it is not. With a rape joke, unless you know that the person makes rape jokes, it is suddenly put in front of you. There is no stated mutually acceptable range of jokes.

That's like going into a room of Holocaust survivors and telling Jewish genocide jokes. See how well they take it.

Those uncomfortable with rapeplay, don't do it, stay away from it. Tell their kinky partner it is not happening.

I specifically said my POV isn’t correct. It’s an opinion and a POV. None of this is a matter of fact. My point is that it’s quite ironic people defend rape play and daddy/daughter play, yet a rape joke is off limits.

I believe all should be allowed. If someone is forcing a rape joke on people, then that’s kind of shitty. But it was at a Louis CK comedy show… Just like I shouldn’t be offended at sexual stuff here.

The virtue signaling is adorable.

 

[alwaysaway]

All this because someone wanted to touch her husband's booty hole?

Man, tough crowd.

https://c.tenor.com/pGWrpWUMqLcAAAAC/et-point-finger.gif

 

[tnman03]

When did we become so callous with our friends?

ToPleaseHim has expressed in personal detail her disdain for rape jokes, why, and that she will end any relationship with those making them, and yet here we are making them, and tagging her in this bullshit. For your own fucking what?

This is not okay. Everyone just needs to let it go. TPH cannot ignore this, or any of us as a Mod. This is really unkind and shitty behavior. Anyone else you target can ignore you. She cant.

Your spot on, this has gone on long enough and enough people have tied it up with lots of bows. I'd really like to see another topic.

All this because someone wanted to touch her husband's booty hole?

Man, tough crowd.

It derailed from there. That happens a lot in Lit Land.

 

[Mrtenant]

I specifically said my POV isn’t correct. It’s an opinion and a POV. None of this is a matter of fact. My point is that it’s quite ironic people defend rape play and daddy/daughter play, yet a rape joke is off limits.

I believe all should be allowed. If someone is forcing a rape joke on people, then that’s kind of shitty. But it was at a Louis CK comedy show… Just like I shouldn’t be offended at sexual stuff here.

The virtue signaling is adorable.

If you are going to a Louis CK Comedy show and are familiar with that as his humor, then have at it. I agree, knock yourself out, enjoy it. It's still not equitable. To me, both rapeplay and rape jokes are not on the menu. And that's really what it boils down to. To me. When you say people....you make assumptions for an indeterminate number and type of people. it is overgeneralization.

"Everyone is saying there was election fraud" doesn't make it so.

Easy to call anything contrary to the hole you dig for yourself as virtue signaling. Sounds pretty smart even. Though I question the intent. You could have done without adding that.

 

[Diosax]

When did we become so callous with our friends?

ToPleaseHim has expressed in personal detail her disdain for rape jokes, why, and that she will end any relationship with those making them, and yet here we are making them, and tagging her in this bullshit. For your own fucking what?

This is not okay. Everyone just needs to let it go. TPH cannot ignore this, or any of us as a Mod. This is really unkind and shitty behavior. Anyone else you target can ignore you. She cant.

It is cruel to tag TPH after she shared yesterday that she is a survivor of SA! And all to prove a fucking point that is a shitty point to begin with.

 

[KatieDoes]

CNC isn’t rape. The consensual part is right there in the name.

 

[tnman03]

CNC isn’t rape. The consensual part is right there in the name.

But it still creeps me out, I had a partner who wanted me to play that out with her. Sorry, it was a hard no, it just isn't my thing.

 

[Mrtenant]

Spicy brown mustard tastes better than regular yellow mustard.